Trump is awful but I want helicopter money and illegal immigration to stop

[Anonymous]

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Total CBP Enforcement Encounters:

FY17: 526,901

FY18: 683,178

FY19: 1,148,024

FY20: 646,822

FY21: 1,956,519

FY22: 2,766,582

FY23: 3,201,144

FY24YTD: 2,427,601

Biden has more than quadrupled border enforcement actions compared to Trumps in FY17. He has more than doubled enforcement actions over Trump's highest ever numbers.

The narrative that Biden and Harris aren't doing anything about the border is flat out right-wing lies. Yes, there have been more crossing attempts under Biden but much of that is largely out of his control. A US president can only do so much about situations in other countries that cause mass migration, and let's face it, even if he had done more the right wing media simply would have turned THAT into a negative. "Biden sending hard-earned US tax dollars to SOCIALIST Venezuela!"

If, and this is a big if, you are actually a confused and misinformed swing voter, please ,PLEASE take the time to educate yourself about the actual situation both directly at the border and in the greater sphere of the Americas that contributes to why the number of border crossings is what it is and was what it was.

And definitely take the time to educate yourself on what Trump actually did about the border when he was president, because the reality is that other than needlessly and pointlessly cruel policies like forced separation, his administration really did very little, and this is clear to anyone with common sense, because as soon as Biden took office, Trump and the GOP started hammering him on the "open border" and "record crossings." What, did a switch flip overnight on January 20th or something? Of course not, there was no effective or sustainable framework set up under Trump, so all of the "worst ever border" stuff Trump likes to harp on is simply a continuation of his lack of action.

“Encountering” migrants at the border isn’t a win when they are allowed entry into the country. I can’t believe you’re arguing those numbers are good for Biden.

The US has to process the people who are claiming asylum under international law. The GOP has refused to expand the number of administrative judges to do this, so instead of taking a few days or weeks, it takes months or years. if the GOP would have approved funding for this when it came up when Obama was president, it wouldn't be an issue today. if the GOP had approved in this past spring, it wouldn't be an issue by January. But instead the bleat on about it, get Fox to bleat on about it and people like you stay angry.

Solve the problem or vote for people who will solve the problem, but the bleating is just a BS ploy.

International law is the first safe country the asylee enters. For many Venezuelan migrants, the US is the ninth safe country they enter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:According to Trump, the way to bring down inflation is to "drill, baby, drill".

Should be pretty obvious that increasing the supply of readily available energy sources will decrease costs for energy consumers (manufacturers, airlines, power producers, consumers, etc.).

Should it be obvious? Is the US oil supply constrained? Or is "drill, baby, drill" just three words that used to be an applause line?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Trump didn't do anything good for his entire term and he still won't do anything good the second time around. Still waiting on my "beautiful healthcare plan".

There were far far fewer migrants with faux asylum claims coming in under Trump. That is a fact.

Please articulate how migrants seeking asylum are affecting your daily life.

I’m a Democrat and I will be voting for Harris/Walz. But you’re actually nuts if you’re serious about this question. I live in NYC and the crisis is everywhere. A direct impact on me is that the city had to cut funding to every city service by 5-10% to fund shelter and services for migrants. I don’t have kids in the public school system, but the influx of high-need, low-income, non-English speaking kids is another direct impact on NYC children whose parents are taxpayers.

I pay a LOT in taxes, and I’m happy to, for a well-run city with good services. I have no choice but to fund this, and obviously once they’ve arrived in NYC, it’s better to have them housed and fed than have depression-esque tent cities everywhere, but they shouldn’t be here at all. The asylum system is a total joke.

Obviously I get that a legislative solution is needed and that the GOP isn’t operating in good faith on this, but Democrats’ messaging (both domestically and externally, to potential migrants) needs to change. There is definitely a perception that the Democrats are the “compassionate” ones on this issue and that a Democratic administration will not take border security seriously. I’d like to see the Remain in Mexico policy put back in place as a starting point. Trump was actually right on that one.

Please remember that employed but undocumented immigrants pay taxes.

This is laughable. They hardly pay any taxes in comparison to people that are legally here. Many of them do not file tax returns and get paid under the table which means they pay zero income taxes. Much of the other taxes they “pay” directly or indirectly are paid using money they did not earn and were given through welfare benefits. The trivial amount of taxes they actual do pay is from mostly low wage jobs does not come close to covering the cost of providing local government services for this group.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to Trump, the way to bring down inflation is to "drill, baby, drill".

Should be pretty obvious that increasing the supply of readily available energy sources will decrease costs for energy consumers (manufacturers, airlines, power producers, consumers, etc.).

Should it be obvious? Is the US oil supply constrained? Or is "drill, baby, drill" just three words that used to be an applause line?

Yes, it should be very obvious to everyone capable of thinking about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Trump didn't do anything good for his entire term and he still won't do anything good the second time around. Still waiting on my "beautiful healthcare plan".

There were far far fewer migrants with faux asylum claims coming in under Trump. That is a fact.

Please articulate how migrants seeking asylum are affecting your daily life.

I’m a Democrat and I will be voting for Harris/Walz. But you’re actually nuts if you’re serious about this question. I live in NYC and the crisis is everywhere. A direct impact on me is that the city had to cut funding to every city service by 5-10% to fund shelter and services for migrants. I don’t have kids in the public school system, but the influx of high-need, low-income, non-English speaking kids is another direct impact on NYC children whose parents are taxpayers.

I pay a LOT in taxes, and I’m happy to, for a well-run city with good services. I have no choice but to fund this, and obviously once they’ve arrived in NYC, it’s better to have them housed and fed than have depression-esque tent cities everywhere, but they shouldn’t be here at all. The asylum system is a total joke.

Obviously I get that a legislative solution is needed and that the GOP isn’t operating in good faith on this, but Democrats’ messaging (both domestically and externally, to potential migrants) needs to change. There is definitely a perception that the Democrats are the “compassionate” ones on this issue and that a Democratic administration will not take border security seriously. I’d like to see the Remain in Mexico policy put back in place as a starting point. Trump was actually right on that one.

Please remember that employed but undocumented immigrants pay taxes.

This is laughable. They hardly pay any taxes in comparison to people that are legally here. Many of them do not file tax returns and get paid under the table which means they pay zero income taxes. Much of the other taxes they “pay” directly or indirectly are paid using money they did not earn and were given through welfare benefits. The trivial amount of taxes they actual do pay is from mostly low wage jobs does not come close to covering the cost of providing local government services for this group.

They're also paid far less than legal residents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to Trump, the way to bring down inflation is to "drill, baby, drill".

Should be pretty obvious that increasing the supply of readily available energy sources will decrease costs for energy consumers (manufacturers, airlines, power producers, consumers, etc.).

Should it be obvious? Is the US oil supply constrained? Or is "drill, baby, drill" just three words that used to be an applause line?

Yes, it should be very obvious to everyone capable of thinking about it.

So the US extracts more oil than any nation in history, is a net exporter, and "drill, baby, drill" is a silver bullet?

[Anonymous]

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OP,

Immigration is a global problem. Not political party can fix it, anywhere in the world. I am French, and I am acutely aware of how challenging it is for the European Union to regulate the millions of migrants trying to cross the Mediterranean. Images of drowned toddlers on beaches are traumatizing. Some countries' coastguards have been accused of letting migrant boats capsize and not rush to their aid. Yet no country can withstand that much migration, so Europe needs to control the flow.
It's an awful situation.

What people fail to understand is that migration doesn't get solved at the border. By then it's too late. You will create human suffering whether or not you create an impenetrable wall.

Migration exists because some countries are dirt poor and some are insanely wealthy. Climate change worsens migration significantly. So do criminal organizations: American demands for drugs and weapons push South and Central American countries into drug lord governance and weaken democracies who could rduce violence and keep their populations inside their own borders.

The GOP has traditionally not been receptive to gun control, and the Democrats have traditionally not been receptive to drug control. They are both to blame for much upstream decisions that create criminal opportunities in Latin America, and force desperate people to leave for greener pastures.

Europe has similar problems.

It's useful to vote for idiots who make grand promises but will clearly not do a thing to address the core issues. Harris at least is trying - she traveled to Latin America to strengthen democratic and economic ties in a bid to keep people where they are. It's very uphill work, and the democrats can't solve it unless they also crack down on drug crime, which also means cracking down on lax gun laws. You can't do one with the others! And Republicans will never agree to gun control.

So please vote for something your chosen party can actually make happen, OP. Because migration is not solvable with the parties we have currently.

And yet many countries do not have a migrant problem. Is it possibly because their policies positively discourage migration?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump didn't do anything good for his entire term and he still won't do anything good the second time around. Still waiting on my "beautiful healthcare plan".

There were far far fewer migrants with faux asylum claims coming in under Trump. That is a fact.

Please articulate how migrants seeking asylum are affecting your daily life.

I’m a Democrat and I will be voting for Harris/Walz. But you’re actually nuts if you’re serious about this question. I live in NYC and the crisis is everywhere. A direct impact on me is that the city had to cut funding to every city service by 5-10% to fund shelter and services for migrants. I don’t have kids in the public school system, but the influx of high-need, low-income, non-English speaking kids is another direct impact on NYC children whose parents are taxpayers.

I pay a LOT in taxes, and I’m happy to, for a well-run city with good services. I have no choice but to fund this, and obviously once they’ve arrived in NYC, it’s better to have them housed and fed than have depression-esque tent cities everywhere, but they shouldn’t be here at all. The asylum system is a total joke.

Obviously I get that a legislative solution is needed and that the GOP isn’t operating in good faith on this, but Democrats’ messaging (both domestically and externally, to potential migrants) needs to change. There is definitely a perception that the Democrats are the “compassionate” ones on this issue and that a Democratic administration will not take border security seriously. I’d like to see the Remain in Mexico policy put back in place as a starting point. Trump was actually right on that one.

Please remember that employed but undocumented immigrants pay taxes.

This is laughable. They hardly pay any taxes in comparison to people that are legally here. Many of them do not file tax returns and get paid under the table which means they pay zero income taxes. Much of the other taxes they “pay” directly or indirectly are paid using money they did not earn and were given through welfare benefits. The trivial amount of taxes they actual do pay is from mostly low wage jobs does not come close to covering the cost of providing local government services for this group.

They're also paid far less than legal residents.

That is completely irrelevant. Anyone who is here illegally should be deported if they are costing US taxpayers money. It idiotic to make US taxpayers pay for illegal migrants and anyone who doesn’t or won’t contribute more tax revenue than they consume should be inadmissible/deported immediately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump is awful and I think JD was the wrong pick. But I just can’t take Kamala seriously about the border and inflation. And these things do matter.
At least with Trump there is a chance of getting these huge problems fixed because there will be other individuals at the helm making things happen. With Kamala, not a chance.
We are so screwed.

Is this a joke?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump didn't do anything good for his entire term and he still won't do anything good the second time around. Still waiting on my "beautiful healthcare plan".

There were far far fewer migrants with faux asylum claims coming in under Trump. That is a fact.

Please articulate how migrants seeking asylum are affecting your daily life.

Are you stupid? They’re massively overcrowding local school systems. They keep increasing our property taxes to pay for it. They spend soooo much money on remedial education and because they need to hire Spanish speaking teachers for ESL. They consume huge quantities of affordable housing that can be used to house our own citizens. More overall demand drives up housing prices.


How can you possibly be this dim?

Would like to add the costs of health care for them and then the anchor babies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The failed Senate border bill would have allowed 5,000 undocumented migrants in a day, or 1.8 million a year. Remember when under Obama it was approaching 1000 a day and it was a crisis because it was overwhelming our ability to vet them properly and house them until the vetting was complete?

It is the sheer volume that is the problem and the bill would have legitimized unmanageable numbers that are about the same as the current unmanageable numbers.

The author of the Bill, Senator Lankford (R-OK) said this was false. Why are you repeating lies?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The border requires legislation and it has since Reagan was in office. At every change, the GOP has refused a bi-partisan solution, most recently when Trump jettisoned a bill that had 80% of what the GOP wanted.

That it is keeping you angry tells me their ploy is successful.

Inflation is a result of COVID and the subsequent bounceback. It is a global phenomenon. Inflation is better in the US than anywhere else in the world.

How do you reduce inflation? Bring down core costs. For housing, that means getting more built. The GOP opposed the government efforts to do this. it means bringing drug costs down. the GOP opposes the government getting involved with this. It means passing anti-price-gouging legislation. The GOP opposed such passage.

What is the GOP plan for the border? Pass the bill it opposed under Biden.

What is the GOP plan for inflation? Who knows. What we do know is that Trump wants to pass a VAT to replace the current tax system, which would be a boon for the upper class and an anchor for the lower and middle class. Trump also wants to increase tariffs, which is highly inflationary.

Please tell us what you think the GOP will do about the border and inflation.

To the bolded (as a conservative) it's also possible that it's just a hard problem to solve. I don't think the Ds have given good solutions either, right?

As someone else has noted, the Ds proposed a bill that was what the Republicans wanted and Donald told them not to pass it, so they didn't.

There are a lot of things that can be done to reduce immigration, such as making potential immigrants' home countries safer and more prosperous. But when Democrats try to pass legislation to that effect, Republicans shout about needing to help the people at home, by which they mean run a deficit for the sake of tax cuts that go to billionaires.

Republicans aren't interested in solving problems, period. And you're right, this is a hard one. But it's made harder by electing people who don't care in the first place.

This narrative from the Ds is so tiresome and stupid. The democrats like to pretend they had a border bill that got torpedoed by Trump and the GOP, but the bill was an absolute farce. The Ds proposed a do nothing bill that still would have allowed upwards of 1.5 million illegals into the country per year. The ‘bill’ was nothing more than toilet paper and worthless. The dems just wanted to make it appear like they were trying to do something even though they knew it was so bad it would get killed no matter what. The Ds offered no real border solutions and remain obstinate in allowing the USA to exist as a sovereign nation. The Dems are a threat to our nation’s existence, because they don’t believe in borders. Let’s also not forget the situation is so bad under Harris and Biden that they have even allowed a number of ISIS affiliates to infiltrate our country through their open borders:

https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/dhs-identifies-400-migrants-brought-us-isis-linked-human-smuggling-rcna158777

You ignore that because Trump abused certain laws that were then overturned by the courts, Biden didn't have the same tools that Trump did. hence the need for legislation. Maybe they didn't tell you that on Fox News?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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OP,

Immigration is a global problem. Not political party can fix it, anywhere in the world. I am French, and I am acutely aware of how challenging it is for the European Union to regulate the millions of migrants trying to cross the Mediterranean. Images of drowned toddlers on beaches are traumatizing. Some countries' coastguards have been accused of letting migrant boats capsize and not rush to their aid. Yet no country can withstand that much migration, so Europe needs to control the flow.
It's an awful situation.

What people fail to understand is that migration doesn't get solved at the border. By then it's too late. You will create human suffering whether or not you create an impenetrable wall.

Migration exists because some countries are dirt poor and some are insanely wealthy. Climate change worsens migration significantly. So do criminal organizations: American demands for drugs and weapons push South and Central American countries into drug lord governance and weaken democracies who could rduce violence and keep their populations inside their own borders.

The GOP has traditionally not been receptive to gun control, and the Democrats have traditionally not been receptive to drug control. They are both to blame for much upstream decisions that create criminal opportunities in Latin America, and force desperate people to leave for greener pastures.

Europe has similar problems.

It's useful to vote for idiots who make grand promises but will clearly not do a thing to address the core issues. Harris at least is trying - she traveled to Latin America to strengthen democratic and economic ties in a bid to keep people where they are. It's very uphill work, and the democrats can't solve it unless they also crack down on drug crime, which also means cracking down on lax gun laws. You can't do one with the others! And Republicans will never agree to gun control.

So please vote for something your chosen party can actually make happen, OP. Because migration is not solvable with the parties we have currently.

And yet many countries do not have a migrant problem. Is it possibly because their policies positively discourage migration?

Which countries don’t have a migrant problem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to Trump, the way to bring down inflation is to "drill, baby, drill".

Should be pretty obvious that increasing the supply of readily available energy sources will decrease costs for energy consumers (manufacturers, airlines, power producers, consumers, etc.).

Should it be obvious? Is the US oil supply constrained? Or is "drill, baby, drill" just three words that used to be an applause line?

Yes, it should be very obvious to everyone capable of thinking about it.

So the US extracts more oil than any nation in history, is a net exporter, and "drill, baby, drill" is a silver bullet?

We import more oil than we export. May this year (latest month available): imports--218,720 barrels; exports--127,601.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrimus1&f=m
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCREXUS1&f=M

[Anonymous]

Vote for Harris and get continuing high inflation, continuing wage deterioration, men in women’s sports, trans in kids schools, uncontrolled borders, continued war support, no support for Israeli, etc.

Keep in mind Iraq is now letting girls as young as 9 get married and Taylor Swift fans almost got bombed in Austria. We live in scary times where you liberals need to get your head out of you assets. Oh yeah and the UK is jailing people over social media posts. This will get much much worse with Harris in the White House.

Stop voting on personality and vote on issues.