RHONJ Season 14 - Reunion Change/End of Show?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m rooting for Teresa as always. Can’t stand Rachel Fuda, her ugly husband, or Margaret. Love to see Jackie switch to the Teresa side. She realizes she will get more drama and viewership and possibly be promoted as a result.

Teresa has bad luck with men and family (brother, SIL,) but her good luck charm is her kids . Her kids all things considered are doing great considering the circumstances . Their father is deported and hasn’t been in their lives for almost a decade now .

If I were Joe Gorga, I don’t know how I could look at myself in the mirror. His parents died and sister went to jail due to his tattle telling and befriending and going out to dinner with Joe Mastropole and Monica Chacon (the attorney investigating the Giudices for the Feds) . She appeared at Melissa’s Christmas Party in Season 3 and actually Caroline felt for Teresa and stood up for her, kicking her out of the party. Melissa feigned ignorance and pretended she didn’t know Monica, and said she wasn’t sure how she was invited .

Melissa and Joe Gorga are awful people. They destroyed a family and danced on their graves , and see nothing wrong because it was all for TV /fame

[Anonymous]

Joe Gorga has no more family remaining except for Melissa’s and that’s how she always wanted it .

She didn’t want him getting along with the Giudices or Wakiles and she got her wish

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Joe Guidice is still blaming everyone but himself for his crimes

Recently he said the Government does bother with people like him and “paying taxes is for chumps”

There is no reality he or Theresa are good humans

She’d be in the street with out the show

They were an arranged marriage. Their families are both fresh off the boat Italians.

I find both of them fascinating because they really are first generation Italians and the rest of the show were third or fourth gen . You can see the major difference between Melissa’s family and Teresa’s .

Teresas family thought it was a scandal that Melissa moved in after a few months with Joe Gorga before marriage. There is so much by way of cultural differences here that Melissa and Teresa’s family relationship as in laws was destined to be doomed.

Apparently, the sprinkle cookies Melissa always cries about that were thrown out at Teresa’s Christmas party was actually thrown out by Joe Giudice’s mom Lol. Teresa just didn’t want to blame her MIL so she took the blame for it. Joe Giudices mom even called Melissa a puta who dresses like a prostitute in some episode where Teresa took her to the nail salon lol.

Well, she was a former stripper but still The Giudice family was very mean to Melissa. Even Little Milania mocked Melissa by climbing on a pole

No they weren’t. The Joes were friends growing up as they lived in the sane neighborhood. Teresa always had a crush on him. They didn’t start dating until their early 20s.

Teresa never had a crush on him. She had a HS boyfriend she liked. She thought Joe was too short. He also didn’t have a crush on Teresa.

Their parents were friends back in Italy and friends here in US. Joe Giudices dad drove Teresa’s mom and dad to the hospital when she was in labor with Teresa. They used to call each other family long before the wedding. Joe Gorga always looked up to Giudice as a brother even before the marriage .

Their marriage was arranged by the families . Giudice and Teresa as first gen firstborns wanted to make their families happy. I’m telling you what I know not what I heard

[Anonymous]

The family wanted to arrange Gorga to an Italian girl from an old school family they knew , but he wasn’t with that. I think he may have been engaged to her for a bit but he rebelled against his parents and chose Melissa . This is the source of what you can say is the drama.

The Giudice family and Gorga family are not from Milan or Naples or Rome. They’re from very conservative villages in S. Italy . Teresa didn’t even sleep with anyone till marriage to Joe Giudice because she said her parents scared her about virginity tests and told her no husband would marry her and keep her if she wasn’t one. Her whole life was following the rules and watching her brother , the stripper and alleged rapist, be spoiled by the family

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The family wanted to arrange Gorga to an Italian girl from an old school family they knew , but he wasn’t with that. I think he may have been engaged to her for a bit but he rebelled against his parents and chose Melissa . This is the source of what you can say is the drama.

The Giudice family and Gorga family are not from Milan or Naples or Rome. They’re from very conservative villages in S. Italy . Teresa didn’t even sleep with anyone till marriage to Joe Giudice because she said her parents scared her about virginity tests and told her no husband would marry her and keep her if she wasn’t one. Her whole life was following the rules and watching her brother , the stripper and alleged rapist, be spoiled by the family

This is wild. You don’t know these people at all but are blowing up this thread with these weird rambling posts from various blog sites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The family wanted to arrange Gorga to an Italian girl from an old school family they knew , but he wasn’t with that. I think he may have been engaged to her for a bit but he rebelled against his parents and chose Melissa . This is the source of what you can say is the drama.

The Giudice family and Gorga family are not from Milan or Naples or Rome. They’re from very conservative villages in S. Italy . Teresa didn’t even sleep with anyone till marriage to Joe Giudice because she said her parents scared her about virginity tests and told her no husband would marry her and keep her if she wasn’t one. Her whole life was following the rules and watching her brother , the stripper and alleged rapist, be spoiled by the family

This is wild. You don’t know these people at all but are blowing up this thread with these weird rambling posts from various blog sites.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The family wanted to arrange Gorga to an Italian girl from an old school family they knew , but he wasn’t with that. I think he may have been engaged to her for a bit but he rebelled against his parents and chose Melissa . This is the source of what you can say is the drama.

The Giudice family and Gorga family are not from Milan or Naples or Rome. They’re from very conservative villages in S. Italy . Teresa didn’t even sleep with anyone till marriage to Joe Giudice because she said her parents scared her about virginity tests and told her no husband would marry her and keep her if she wasn’t one. Her whole life was following the rules and watching her brother , the stripper and alleged rapist, be spoiled by the family

Teresa grew up in the US. This is some real old school weird conspiracy stuff. This is New Jersey, not 1940s Italian village.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The family wanted to arrange Gorga to an Italian girl from an old school family they knew , but he wasn’t with that. I think he may have been engaged to her for a bit but he rebelled against his parents and chose Melissa . This is the source of what you can say is the drama.

The Giudice family and Gorga family are not from Milan or Naples or Rome. They’re from very conservative villages in S. Italy . Teresa didn’t even sleep with anyone till marriage to Joe Giudice because she said her parents scared her about virginity tests and told her no husband would marry her and keep her if she wasn’t one. Her whole life was following the rules and watching her brother , the stripper and alleged rapist, be spoiled by the family

Teresa grew up in the US. This is some real old school weird conspiracy stuff. This is New Jersey, not 1940s Italian village.

DP. I don’t know anything about Teresa’s life, but I speak from the experience of a 1st generation Italian daughter and a LOT of this rings true. My cousins, who were all born and raised in Jersey and are very close in age to Teresa, had very similar experiences. All lived at home until the day they married. They were all virgins until their wedding nights. They worked at Bamberger’s as their after school and college jobs. Attended local colleges and lived at home with their parents the whole time. Were expected to cook and keep immaculate house and work (secondly to all else) and get married to a good Italian boy (not necessarily arranged) and have kids and never get divorced and do whatever their husbands told them to do. My family is from a different part of Italy, but similarly rural. It may as well have been the Middle Ages, culturally, when they slowly immigrated during the late 50s/early 60s. My aunt, who came to the US with her parents as a teen in mid 50s, was arranged to be married by her parents to her husband, who she’d known as a child but never dated/courted, BY PROXY, at 18 and he came over from their little village back in Italy to the US as her husband. She had a son within the first year of their marriage and spent the next 30 years in a miserable marriage while he had numerous mistresses, one of whom he eventually left her for and moved to Argentina with, once all their parents were dead. So I sympathize with Teresa and don’t blame her one bit for trying to please her parents and then her husband, including by signing whatever her told her to sign without question. Because that’s just what you were expected to do!

Also, weighing in on “Sprinkle Cookie-gate,” I blame Joe Gorga for not explaining to Melissa what a culturally inappropriate move bringing grocery store-bought cookies to his family’s house was. Melissa had no way of knowing, but Joe should’ve warned her that it would be received as offensive and disrespectful. Homemade or from an authentic Italian bakery ONLY, or it’s a diss. Joe Gorga is the root of all the drama, always.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The family wanted to arrange Gorga to an Italian girl from an old school family they knew , but he wasn’t with that. I think he may have been engaged to her for a bit but he rebelled against his parents and chose Melissa . This is the source of what you can say is the drama.

The Giudice family and Gorga family are not from Milan or Naples or Rome. They’re from very conservative villages in S. Italy . Teresa didn’t even sleep with anyone till marriage to Joe Giudice because she said her parents scared her about virginity tests and told her no husband would marry her and keep her if she wasn’t one. Her whole life was following the rules and watching her brother , the stripper and alleged rapist, be spoiled by the family

Teresa grew up in the US. This is some real old school weird conspiracy stuff. This is New Jersey, not 1940s Italian village.

DP. I don’t know anything about Teresa’s life, but I speak from the experience of a 1st generation Italian daughter and a LOT of this rings true. My cousins, who were all born and raised in Jersey and are very close in age to Teresa, had very similar experiences. All lived at home until the day they married. They were all virgins until their wedding nights. They worked at Bamberger’s as their after school and college jobs. Attended local colleges and lived at home with their parents the whole time. Were expected to cook and keep immaculate house and work (secondly to all else) and get married to a good Italian boy (not necessarily arranged) and have kids and never get divorced and do whatever their husbands told them to do. My family is from a different part of Italy, but similarly rural. It may as well have been the Middle Ages, culturally, when they slowly immigrated during the late 50s/early 60s. My aunt, who came to the US with her parents as a teen in mid 50s, was arranged to be married by her parents to her husband, who she’d known as a child but never dated/courted, BY PROXY, at 18 and he came over from their little village back in Italy to the US as her husband. She had a son within the first year of their marriage and spent the next 30 years in a miserable marriage while he had numerous mistresses, one of whom he eventually left her for and moved to Argentina with, once all their parents were dead. So I sympathize with Teresa and don’t blame her one bit for trying to please her parents and then her husband, including by signing whatever her told her to sign without question. Because that’s just what you were expected to do!

Also, weighing in on “Sprinkle Cookie-gate,” I blame Joe Gorga for not explaining to Melissa what a culturally inappropriate move bringing grocery store-bought cookies to his family’s house was. Melissa had no way of knowing, but Joe should’ve warned her that it would be received as offensive and disrespectful. Homemade or from an authentic Italian bakery ONLY, or it’s a diss. Joe Gorga is the root of all the drama, always.

OR, he could have explained to his family how ridiculous it is to judge someone based on the kind of cookies they bring to an event.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The family wanted to arrange Gorga to an Italian girl from an old school family they knew , but he wasn’t with that. I think he may have been engaged to her for a bit but he rebelled against his parents and chose Melissa . This is the source of what you can say is the drama.

The Giudice family and Gorga family are not from Milan or Naples or Rome. They’re from very conservative villages in S. Italy . Teresa didn’t even sleep with anyone till marriage to Joe Giudice because she said her parents scared her about virginity tests and told her no husband would marry her and keep her if she wasn’t one. Her whole life was following the rules and watching her brother , the stripper and alleged rapist, be spoiled by the family

Teresa grew up in the US. This is some real old school weird conspiracy stuff. This is New Jersey, not 1940s Italian village.

DP. I don’t know anything about Teresa’s life, but I speak from the experience of a 1st generation Italian daughter and a LOT of this rings true. My cousins, who were all born and raised in Jersey and are very close in age to Teresa, had very similar experiences. All lived at home until the day they married. They were all virgins until their wedding nights. They worked at Bamberger’s as their after school and college jobs. Attended local colleges and lived at home with their parents the whole time. Were expected to cook and keep immaculate house and work (secondly to all else) and get married to a good Italian boy (not necessarily arranged) and have kids and never get divorced and do whatever their husbands told them to do. My family is from a different part of Italy, but similarly rural. It may as well have been the Middle Ages, culturally, when they slowly immigrated during the late 50s/early 60s. My aunt, who came to the US with her parents as a teen in mid 50s, was arranged to be married by her parents to her husband, who she’d known as a child but never dated/courted, BY PROXY, at 18 and he came over from their little village back in Italy to the US as her husband. She had a son within the first year of their marriage and spent the next 30 years in a miserable marriage while he had numerous mistresses, one of whom he eventually left her for and moved to Argentina with, once all their parents were dead. So I sympathize with Teresa and don’t blame her one bit for trying to please her parents and then her husband, including by signing whatever her told her to sign without question. Because that’s just what you were expected to do!

Also, weighing in on “Sprinkle Cookie-gate,” I blame Joe Gorga for not explaining to Melissa what a culturally inappropriate move bringing grocery store-bought cookies to his family’s house was. Melissa had no way of knowing, but Joe should’ve warned her that it would be received as offensive and disrespectful. Homemade or from an authentic Italian bakery ONLY, or it’s a diss. Joe Gorga is the root of all the drama, always.

OR, he could have explained to his family how ridiculous it is to judge someone based on the kind of cookies they bring to an event.

I am telling you first hand the problem is the cultural gaps here created a huge rift and resentment between the Gorgas and the Giudices and shit hit the fan so much Feds were called . As Caroline put it, she was there in the room when someone on the show called the FBI.

When Teresa said in Italian during the reunion last season “that Joe Gorga broke her heart , that’s what she meant. She wanted to say something Melissa or Andy Cohen or rest of cast wouldn’t understand but she knew Joey would understand .

What happened to this family was tragic especially since it was Teresa’s parents only 2 kids.

Teresa talks about most of her life on her podcast more than she does on the show but on an episode where Joe Giudice was on, they both admit they weren’t attracted to each other really but married to make the family happy and Teresa was tired of being in the house waiting on her brother hand and foot and seeing him screw up and she being the good one.

The family never would’ve expected Teresa go to jail instead of Joe Gorga. Joe Gorga was the one who committed crimes going back to college . Melissa also was arrested for shoplifting in Florida when she was in HS. Teresa barely even drank or slept around at all because she was naive and controlled by parents and then husband all her life .

She’s luckily breaking the cycle and not teaching her daughters to be restricted or submissive to men their entire lives but this was Teresa’s life . She is not going to let Joe Gorga and Melissa back in though. After finding out what she found out via Dolores and Caroline last year re: FBI, she is never speaking to them again unless a hefty paycheck is involved

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The family wanted to arrange Gorga to an Italian girl from an old school family they knew , but he wasn’t with that. I think he may have been engaged to her for a bit but he rebelled against his parents and chose Melissa . This is the source of what you can say is the drama.

The Giudice family and Gorga family are not from Milan or Naples or Rome. They’re from very conservative villages in S. Italy . Teresa didn’t even sleep with anyone till marriage to Joe Giudice because she said her parents scared her about virginity tests and told her no husband would marry her and keep her if she wasn’t one. Her whole life was following the rules and watching her brother , the stripper and alleged rapist, be spoiled by the family

Teresa grew up in the US. This is some real old school weird conspiracy stuff. This is New Jersey, not 1940s Italian village.

DP. I don’t know anything about Teresa’s life, but I speak from the experience of a 1st generation Italian daughter and a LOT of this rings true. My cousins, who were all born and raised in Jersey and are very close in age to Teresa, had very similar experiences. All lived at home until the day they married. They were all virgins until their wedding nights. They worked at Bamberger’s as their after school and college jobs. Attended local colleges and lived at home with their parents the whole time. Were expected to cook and keep immaculate house and work (secondly to all else) and get married to a good Italian boy (not necessarily arranged) and have kids and never get divorced and do whatever their husbands told them to do. My family is from a different part of Italy, but similarly rural. It may as well have been the Middle Ages, culturally, when they slowly immigrated during the late 50s/early 60s. My aunt, who came to the US with her parents as a teen in mid 50s, was arranged to be married by her parents to her husband, who she’d known as a child but never dated/courted, BY PROXY, at 18 and he came over from their little village back in Italy to the US as her husband. She had a son within the first year of their marriage and spent the next 30 years in a miserable marriage while he had numerous mistresses, one of whom he eventually left her for and moved to Argentina with, once all their parents were dead. So I sympathize with Teresa and don’t blame her one bit for trying to please her parents and then her husband, including by signing whatever her told her to sign without question. Because that’s just what you were expected to do!

Also, weighing in on “Sprinkle Cookie-gate,” I blame Joe Gorga for not explaining to Melissa what a culturally inappropriate move bringing grocery store-bought cookies to his family’s house was. Melissa had no way of knowing, but Joe should’ve warned her that it would be received as offensive and disrespectful. Homemade or from an authentic Italian bakery ONLY, or it’s a diss. Joe Gorga is the root of all the drama, always.

OR, he could have explained to his family how ridiculous it is to judge someone based on the kind of cookies they bring to an event.

It’s no more or less ridiculous than any cultural expectation. It’s only silly or ridiculous to someone outside that culture. It probably was just the first of many ways in which they realized she wasn’t “right.” Meaning part of the same culture, she was “too American.” Many immigrants want their children to only marry within their same culture. Is it right or fair or anything that our culture thinks is correct? Nope. But it’s very much part of the old world Italian culture, and other cultures, to have that expectation of influence over who your child’s spouse will be, and the expectation that they’ll be someone with whom you share a cultural shorthand that doesn’t need to be explained or apologized for. And Joe Gorga knew that was exactly what would happen when he picked a girl who wasn’t part of that insular culture. There were going to be these clashes, and instead of bridging those gaps he took them personally and blew them up into much bigger problems, like that his father was choosing his son-in-law over him. No, that wasn’t what was happening. Gorga was wrong expecting them to change and wrong to feel as if they didn’t choose him when they could not change. He rejected them and their way of doing things first, in their eyes.

[Anonymous]

Love Teresa. Can’t stand Melissa, Margaret, or Rachel Fuda. I like Jennifer, Danielle and Jackie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The family wanted to arrange Gorga to an Italian girl from an old school family they knew , but he wasn’t with that. I think he may have been engaged to her for a bit but he rebelled against his parents and chose Melissa . This is the source of what you can say is the drama.

The Giudice family and Gorga family are not from Milan or Naples or Rome. They’re from very conservative villages in S. Italy . Teresa didn’t even sleep with anyone till marriage to Joe Giudice because she said her parents scared her about virginity tests and told her no husband would marry her and keep her if she wasn’t one. Her whole life was following the rules and watching her brother , the stripper and alleged rapist, be spoiled by the family

Teresa grew up in the US. This is some real old school weird conspiracy stuff. This is New Jersey, not 1940s Italian village.

DP. I don’t know anything about Teresa’s life, but I speak from the experience of a 1st generation Italian daughter and a LOT of this rings true. My cousins, who were all born and raised in Jersey and are very close in age to Teresa, had very similar experiences. All lived at home until the day they married. They were all virgins until their wedding nights. They worked at Bamberger’s as their after school and college jobs. Attended local colleges and lived at home with their parents the whole time. Were expected to cook and keep immaculate house and work (secondly to all else) and get married to a good Italian boy (not necessarily arranged) and have kids and never get divorced and do whatever their husbands told them to do. My family is from a different part of Italy, but similarly rural. It may as well have been the Middle Ages, culturally, when they slowly immigrated during the late 50s/early 60s. My aunt, who came to the US with her parents as a teen in mid 50s, was arranged to be married by her parents to her husband, who she’d known as a child but never dated/courted, BY PROXY, at 18 and he came over from their little village back in Italy to the US as her husband. She had a son within the first year of their marriage and spent the next 30 years in a miserable marriage while he had numerous mistresses, one of whom he eventually left her for and moved to Argentina with, once all their parents were dead. So I sympathize with Teresa and don’t blame her one bit for trying to please her parents and then her husband, including by signing whatever her told her to sign without question. Because that’s just what you were expected to do!

Also, weighing in on “Sprinkle Cookie-gate,” I blame Joe Gorga for not explaining to Melissa what a culturally inappropriate move bringing grocery store-bought cookies to his family’s house was. Melissa had no way of knowing, but Joe should’ve warned her that it would be received as offensive and disrespectful. Homemade or from an authentic Italian bakery ONLY, or it’s a diss. Joe Gorga is the root of all the drama, always.

OR, he could have explained to his family how ridiculous it is to judge someone based on the kind of cookies they bring to an event.

It’s no more or less ridiculous than any cultural expectation. It’s only silly or ridiculous to someone outside that culture. It probably was just the first of many ways in which they realized she wasn’t “right.” Meaning part of the same culture, she was “too American.” Many immigrants want their children to only marry within their same culture. Is it right or fair or anything that our culture thinks is correct? Nope. But it’s very much part of the old world Italian culture, and other cultures, to have that expectation of influence over who your child’s spouse will be, and the expectation that they’ll be someone with whom you share a cultural shorthand that doesn’t need to be explained or apologized for. And Joe Gorga knew that was exactly what would happen when he picked a girl who wasn’t part of that insular culture. There were going to be these clashes, and instead of bridging those gaps he took them personally and blew them up into much bigger problems, like that his father was choosing his son-in-law over him. No, that wasn’t what was happening. Gorga was wrong expecting them to change and wrong to feel as if they didn’t choose him when they could not change. He rejected them and their way of doing things first, in their eyes.

Their wedding was full of faux pas for the family . Melissa is just a fun Jersey Shore girl and so is her family. They’re really fun and not uptight which is why Gorga loves them so much but the other family is old world like something out of the Middle Ages. During the reception, they were shocked Melissa was downing shots and getting frisky as she always does with women (just innocent touches). Teresa’s family were disgusted lol.

Melissa having a nanny was also a faux pas. Melissa’s outfit choices (too small).

Teresa tried to make a friend with Melissa by making Melissa the godmother to Gabriella

Joe Gorga as the man of the family should’ve straightened things out with his parents and put his foot down about who he married being his choice and they either take it or leave it. Instead, he decided to blame Teresa for the family not warming to and not telling Melissa things . Whenever Teresa would tell Melissa things like don’t bring sprinkle cookies or don’t wear short shorts to family events , she would get mad

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The family wanted to arrange Gorga to an Italian girl from an old school family they knew , but he wasn’t with that. I think he may have been engaged to her for a bit but he rebelled against his parents and chose Melissa . This is the source of what you can say is the drama.

The Giudice family and Gorga family are not from Milan or Naples or Rome. They’re from very conservative villages in S. Italy . Teresa didn’t even sleep with anyone till marriage to Joe Giudice because she said her parents scared her about virginity tests and told her no husband would marry her and keep her if she wasn’t one. Her whole life was following the rules and watching her brother , the stripper and alleged rapist, be spoiled by the family

Teresa grew up in the US. This is some real old school weird conspiracy stuff. This is New Jersey, not 1940s Italian village.

DP. I don’t know anything about Teresa’s life, but I speak from the experience of a 1st generation Italian daughter and a LOT of this rings true. My cousins, who were all born and raised in Jersey and are very close in age to Teresa, had very similar experiences. All lived at home until the day they married. They were all virgins until their wedding nights. They worked at Bamberger’s as their after school and college jobs. Attended local colleges and lived at home with their parents the whole time. Were expected to cook and keep immaculate house and work (secondly to all else) and get married to a good Italian boy (not necessarily arranged) and have kids and never get divorced and do whatever their husbands told them to do. My family is from a different part of Italy, but similarly rural. It may as well have been the Middle Ages, culturally, when they slowly immigrated during the late 50s/early 60s. My aunt, who came to the US with her parents as a teen in mid 50s, was arranged to be married by her parents to her husband, who she’d known as a child but never dated/courted, BY PROXY, at 18 and he came over from their little village back in Italy to the US as her husband. She had a son within the first year of their marriage and spent the next 30 years in a miserable marriage while he had numerous mistresses, one of whom he eventually left her for and moved to Argentina with, once all their parents were dead. So I sympathize with Teresa and don’t blame her one bit for trying to please her parents and then her husband, including by signing whatever her told her to sign without question. Because that’s just what you were expected to do!

Also, weighing in on “Sprinkle Cookie-gate,” I blame Joe Gorga for not explaining to Melissa what a culturally inappropriate move bringing grocery store-bought cookies to his family’s house was. Melissa had no way of knowing, but Joe should’ve warned her that it would be received as offensive and disrespectful. Homemade or from an authentic Italian bakery ONLY, or it’s a diss. Joe Gorga is the root of all the drama, always.

OR, he could have explained to his family how ridiculous it is to judge someone based on the kind of cookies they bring to an event.

It’s no more or less ridiculous than any cultural expectation. It’s only silly or ridiculous to someone outside that culture. It probably was just the first of many ways in which they realized she wasn’t “right.” Meaning part of the same culture, she was “too American.” Many immigrants want their children to only marry within their same culture. Is it right or fair or anything that our culture thinks is correct? Nope. But it’s very much part of the old world Italian culture, and other cultures, to have that expectation of influence over who your child’s spouse will be, and the expectation that they’ll be someone with whom you share a cultural shorthand that doesn’t need to be explained or apologized for. And Joe Gorga knew that was exactly what would happen when he picked a girl who wasn’t part of that insular culture. There were going to be these clashes, and instead of bridging those gaps he took them personally and blew them up into much bigger problems, like that his father was choosing his son-in-law over him. No, that wasn’t what was happening. Gorga was wrong expecting them to change and wrong to feel as if they didn’t choose him when they could not change. He rejected them and their way of doing things first, in their eyes.

Their wedding was full of faux pas for the family . Melissa is just a fun Jersey Shore girl and so is her family. They’re really fun and not uptight which is why Gorga loves them so much but the other family is old world like something out of the Middle Ages. During the reception, they were shocked Melissa was downing shots and getting frisky as she always does with women (just innocent touches). Teresa’s family were disgusted lol.

Melissa having a nanny was also a faux pas. Melissa’s outfit choices (too small).

Teresa tried to make a friend with Melissa by making Melissa the godmother to Gabriella

Joe Gorga as the man of the family should’ve straightened things out with his parents and put his foot down about who he married being his choice and they either take it or leave it. Instead, he decided to blame Teresa for the family not warming to and not telling Melissa things . Whenever Teresa would tell Melissa things like don’t bring sprinkle cookies or don’t wear short shorts to family events , she would get mad

Are you a personal friend of the family?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The family wanted to arrange Gorga to an Italian girl from an old school family they knew , but he wasn’t with that. I think he may have been engaged to her for a bit but he rebelled against his parents and chose Melissa . This is the source of what you can say is the drama.

The Giudice family and Gorga family are not from Milan or Naples or Rome. They’re from very conservative villages in S. Italy . Teresa didn’t even sleep with anyone till marriage to Joe Giudice because she said her parents scared her about virginity tests and told her no husband would marry her and keep her if she wasn’t one. Her whole life was following the rules and watching her brother , the stripper and alleged rapist, be spoiled by the family

Teresa grew up in the US. This is some real old school weird conspiracy stuff. This is New Jersey, not 1940s Italian village.

DP. I don’t know anything about Teresa’s life, but I speak from the experience of a 1st generation Italian daughter and a LOT of this rings true. My cousins, who were all born and raised in Jersey and are very close in age to Teresa, had very similar experiences. All lived at home until the day they married. They were all virgins until their wedding nights. They worked at Bamberger’s as their after school and college jobs. Attended local colleges and lived at home with their parents the whole time. Were expected to cook and keep immaculate house and work (secondly to all else) and get married to a good Italian boy (not necessarily arranged) and have kids and never get divorced and do whatever their husbands told them to do. My family is from a different part of Italy, but similarly rural. It may as well have been the Middle Ages, culturally, when they slowly immigrated during the late 50s/early 60s. My aunt, who came to the US with her parents as a teen in mid 50s, was arranged to be married by her parents to her husband, who she’d known as a child but never dated/courted, BY PROXY, at 18 and he came over from their little village back in Italy to the US as her husband. She had a son within the first year of their marriage and spent the next 30 years in a miserable marriage while he had numerous mistresses, one of whom he eventually left her for and moved to Argentina with, once all their parents were dead. So I sympathize with Teresa and don’t blame her one bit for trying to please her parents and then her husband, including by signing whatever her told her to sign without question. Because that’s just what you were expected to do!

Also, weighing in on “Sprinkle Cookie-gate,” I blame Joe Gorga for not explaining to Melissa what a culturally inappropriate move bringing grocery store-bought cookies to his family’s house was. Melissa had no way of knowing, but Joe should’ve warned her that it would be received as offensive and disrespectful. Homemade or from an authentic Italian bakery ONLY, or it’s a diss. Joe Gorga is the root of all the drama, always.

OR, he could have explained to his family how ridiculous it is to judge someone based on the kind of cookies they bring to an event.

It’s no more or less ridiculous than any cultural expectation. It’s only silly or ridiculous to someone outside that culture. It probably was just the first of many ways in which they realized she wasn’t “right.” Meaning part of the same culture, she was “too American.” Many immigrants want their children to only marry within their same culture. Is it right or fair or anything that our culture thinks is correct? Nope. But it’s very much part of the old world Italian culture, and other cultures, to have that expectation of influence over who your child’s spouse will be, and the expectation that they’ll be someone with whom you share a cultural shorthand that doesn’t need to be explained or apologized for. And Joe Gorga knew that was exactly what would happen when he picked a girl who wasn’t part of that insular culture. There were going to be these clashes, and instead of bridging those gaps he took them personally and blew them up into much bigger problems, like that his father was choosing his son-in-law over him. No, that wasn’t what was happening. Gorga was wrong expecting them to change and wrong to feel as if they didn’t choose him when they could not change. He rejected them and their way of doing things first, in their eyes.

Their wedding was full of faux pas for the family . Melissa is just a fun Jersey Shore girl and so is her family. They’re really fun and not uptight which is why Gorga loves them so much but the other family is old world like something out of the Middle Ages. During the reception, they were shocked Melissa was downing shots and getting frisky as she always does with women (just innocent touches). Teresa’s family were disgusted lol.

Melissa having a nanny was also a faux pas. Melissa’s outfit choices (too small).

Teresa tried to make a friend with Melissa by making Melissa the godmother to Gabriella

Joe Gorga as the man of the family should’ve straightened things out with his parents and put his foot down about who he married being his choice and they either take it or leave it. Instead, he decided to blame Teresa for the family not warming to and not telling Melissa things . Whenever Teresa would tell Melissa things like don’t bring sprinkle cookies or don’t wear short shorts to family events , she would get mad

Are you a personal friend of the family?

Not closely but my dad was good friends to Teresa’s late dad. I am the Gorga of my family and left Italostan in N. Jersey so I know some of these stories particularly how the late mother and father felt about Melissa and Joe Gorga getting on TV knowing Gorga’s past record.

It stressed the mom out perhaps to an early grave to see her kids fighting on TV and she always feared Joe would go to jail if the past was dug up but alas it was Teresa .

Teresa and Joe Giudice and Teresa’s dad were also the only ones accepting of Rosie as well including financially .

The Wakiles were not accepting . Richie comes from a conservative Christian Lebanese fam and he and Kathy and Kathy’s mom had nothing to do with Rosie until Bravo called.

Rosie speaks the best Italian out of them all too