Duke bachelor’s (economics) & literally no work history

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DS will graduate from Brown with a degree in economics in two weeks with a junior internship, and is still looking for jobs. DS has fifteen friends from Brown with the same major. Of those fifteen, five received job offers because their families are super wealthy with so many connections. The remaining ten, DS included, have been looking for jobs since January. It is not easy if you’re from MC and your families don’t have connections in this job market environment. Going to Brown has not helped DS so far.

People need to get out of the McLean, Langley, great falls, Bethesda, and Potomac bubble.

And yet, I have lower middle class young women in my family who were not at all gifted students and are making $70,000-85,000 year wages as first year registered nurses. Community college and regional state university degrees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just pathologically lie about two summer internships. The only employers who truly deep dive and vet employment history are banks and some fed agencies.

Untrue and very bad advice. Why did the parents not tell the kid to get summer jobs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS will graduate from Brown with a degree in economics in two weeks with a junior internship, and is still looking for jobs. DS has fifteen friends from Brown with the same major. Of those fifteen, five received job offers because their families are super wealthy with so many connections. The remaining ten, DS included, have been looking for jobs since January. It is not easy if you’re from MC and your families don’t have connections in this job market environment. Going to Brown has not helped DS so far.

People need to get out of the McLean, Langley, great falls, Bethesda, and Potomac bubble.

And yet, I have lower middle class young women in my family who were not at all gifted students and are making $70,000-85,000 year wages as first year registered nurses. Community college and regional state university degrees.

I'll up your anecdata with my own. I graduated from a SLAC and hardly any of my friends had a job offer at graduation. Now 20 years out most of my college friends are pretty high earners.

I have nurses in my family who are middle aged and none of them make anything near most of my peers with non-professional college degrees.

Having a solid job at graduation at 22 is great, but if you don't have that it doesn't mean you're screwed for life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just pathologically lie about two summer internships. The only employers who truly deep dive and vet employment history are banks and some fed agencies.

Untrue and very bad advice. Why did the parents not tell the kid to get summer jobs?

Okay, then what is your advice? Fancy university or not, an empty resume and mediocre GPA is getting a kid nowhere. And I would not advise putting “four years of lethargy and mental health issues” on a resume.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS will graduate from Brown with a degree in economics in two weeks with a junior internship, and is still looking for jobs. DS has fifteen friends from Brown with the same major. Of those fifteen, five received job offers because their families are super wealthy with so many connections. The remaining ten, DS included, have been looking for jobs since January. It is not easy if you’re from MC and your families don’t have connections in this job market environment. Going to Brown has not helped DS so far.

People need to get out of the McLean, Langley, great falls, Bethesda, and Potomac bubble.

And yet, I have lower middle class young women in my family who were not at all gifted students and are making $70,000-85,000 year wages as first year registered nurses. Community college and regional state university degrees.

I'll up your anecdata with my own. I graduated from a SLAC and hardly any of my friends had a job offer at graduation. Now 20 years out most of my college friends are pretty high earners.

I have nurses in my family who are middle aged and none of them make anything near most of my peers with non-professional college degrees.

Having a solid job at graduation at 22 is great, but if you don't have that it doesn't mean you're screwed for life.

Unless a nurse has substance abuse issues or out of wedlock kids, they tend to do very well. Especially if they marry well and buy a home ASAP.

[Anonymous]

Hopefully, the graduate has a rich family with connections if they haven't had any summer jobs or internships.

[Anonymous]

Lie your ass off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS will graduate from Brown with a degree in economics in two weeks with a junior internship, and is still looking for jobs. DS has fifteen friends from Brown with the same major. Of those fifteen, five received job offers because their families are super wealthy with so many connections. The remaining ten, DS included, have been looking for jobs since January. It is not easy if you’re from MC and your families don’t have connections in this job market environment. Going to Brown has not helped DS so far.

People need to get out of the McLean, Langley, great falls, Bethesda, and Potomac bubble.

And yet, I have lower middle class young women in my family who were not at all gifted students and are making $70,000-85,000 year wages as first year registered nurses. Community college and regional state university degrees.

I'll up your anecdata with my own. I graduated from a SLAC and hardly any of my friends had a job offer at graduation. Now 20 years out most of my college friends are pretty high earners.

I have nurses in my family who are middle aged and none of them make anything near most of my peers with non-professional college degrees.

Having a solid job at graduation at 22 is great, but if you don't have that it doesn't mean you're screwed for life.

Unless a nurse has substance abuse issues or out of wedlock kids, they tend to do very well. Especially if they marry well and buy a home ASAP.

Ok, this is crazy. I'm a nurse in the DC area. I have 20 years of experience. I made $50K out of school and make $110K now. I couldn't afford to live in DC if I wasn't married to a doctor. Most of my colleagues live an hour or more outside of the city as this is where they could afford to buy a house.

Nurses "do well" in other parts of the country but in the greater DMV we almost qualify for social (subsidized housing, health care, etc) benefits. We are not "buying a home" ASAP.

[Anonymous]

Fire off applications to the professional services companies in the area. Don't know how much HR cares. Internships don't really teach you anything useful anyway.

[Anonymous]

I would assume he had classes that required substantive projects? He should list those, incorporating the key words in job listings. Both my kids at much less prestigious schools had a thesis or capstone project requirement for their major which went on the resume and was something they could talk about in cover letters and interviews (in additional to real work history).

And sign up with a temp agency and start getting some work history that way. Spend a year doing that and apply for grad school for the next year.

[Anonymous]

DS graduated summa cum laude from UCLA CS major, and is still looking for a job. It is brutal in the tech sector.

[Anonymous]

Can’t you put clubs or volunteering or something like that on it?

[Anonymous]

There’s nothing stopping him from temping, volunteering, etc.

[Anonymous]

I had a lot of jobs and resume items in undergrad but I was still a bit lost. I worked in a deli the summer after graduation and then spent a year as a nanny / babysitter for a few families. Could the kid work in a coffee shop while applying to grad schools or work a few jobs for experience?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Americorps. Maybe Peace Corps.

AmeriCorps is a red flag. People there are dumber than rocks and the pay is terrible. Blue Devil is too good to waste life on that nonsense

The pay is terrible, lol.