Feeder Schools into Ivy League

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What are some Feeder schools into Dartmouth?

None in the DMV.

St. Albans has sent 17 to Dartmouth over the last five years, the same number as they have sent to Yale over the last five years, but less than Chicago (37)

https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/at-a-glance

The link says, "The 76 members of the Class of 2023 applied to 164 different colleges and received a total of 290 acceptances; 40 schools were represented among their final matriculation plans," yet it only lists 20 great schools. What about the other 20 schools the class of 2023 is attending? I'm curious as to why they also didn't post the other 20 schools. These so-called elite independent schools have kids who attend everything from an Ivy to a local school, yet they tend only to post the top schools.

the other 20 from the year you're referring to:
Bucknell
Carnegie Mellon
U of Dayton (sports recruit)
Kenyon
Miami
Morehouse
NYU
USC
Swarthmore
Williams
West Point
William and Mary
JMU
Notre Dame
Oberlin
Oregon
Penn
Penn State
Sewanee (sports recruit)
Texas Tech

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are some Feeder schools into Dartmouth?

None in the DMV.

St. Albans has sent 17 to Dartmouth over the last five years, the same number as they have sent to Yale over the last five years, but less than Chicago (37)

https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/at-a-glance

The link says, "The 76 members of the Class of 2023 applied to 164 different colleges and received a total of 290 acceptances; 40 schools were represented among their final matriculation plans," yet it only lists 20 great schools. What about the other 20 schools the class of 2023 is attending? I'm curious as to why they also didn't post the other 20 schools. These so-called elite independent schools have kids who attend everything from an Ivy to a local school, yet they tend only to post the top schools.

The website lists the colleges with the highest number of St. Alban's enrollments. The other schools are not less great - e.g., Swarthmore, Williams - but have fewer than 6 St. Alban's recent alums there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If your goal is simply Ivy, then save your cash, send your kid to a regular high school where they can be the superstar of their class.

You are way underestimating how hard it is to be "the superstar" at a public high school, especially in the DC area.

Enroll in Jackson-Reed. It's not hard at all to get a 4.5 GPA and carve a nice extracurricular niche in time for college admissions.

Then why are there only about 8 or 9 students going to Ivies from JR this year? Out of a class of over 500.

Grades must not be the most important factor…especially at a high school with rampant grade inflation and assignment retakes.

Jackson-Reed has far fewer students gunning for Ivies than the elite private schools. The quality of the student at J-R is also far more variable than an elite private, so the competition is easier. My point is that for a very accomplished student, the J-R applicant pool is much easier to stand out in. If you go to NCS, you will be competing with girls that have nationally-recognized researchers or writers, legacies, athletes, or VIP.

It's just so much easier for an academically-strong student to stand out at J-R than at NCS.

At Wilson/Jackson Reed there will be students who go to Yale. And then there are the students who go on to another institution— jail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are some Feeder schools into Dartmouth?

Probably not GDS. GDS is definitely a feeder to Harvard and other top Ivies but the alignment with Dartmouth is less strong.

[Anonymous]

OMG. None of the DMV schools are feeders to any Ivy. Wake up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your goal is simply Ivy, then save your cash, send your kid to a regular high school where they can be the superstar of their class.

You are way underestimating how hard it is to be "the superstar" at a public high school, especially in the DC area.

Enroll in Jackson-Reed. It's not hard at all to get a 4.5 GPA and carve a nice extracurricular niche in time for college admissions.

Then why are there only about 8 or 9 students going to Ivies from JR this year? Out of a class of over 500.

Grades must not be the most important factor…especially at a high school with rampant grade inflation and assignment retakes.

Jackson-Reed has far fewer students gunning for Ivies than the elite private schools. The quality of the student at J-R is also far more variable than an elite private, so the competition is easier. My point is that for a very accomplished student, the J-R applicant pool is much easier to stand out in. If you go to NCS, you will be competing with girls that have nationally-recognized researchers or writers, legacies, athletes, or VIP.

It's just so much easier for an academically-strong student to stand out at J-R than at NCS.

Facts show top students percentage wise are less likely to go to an IVY or top 20 school than at top privates. Percentage wise they send a very very low number. They have 500 plus kids per grade. Many kids with high GPAs.

My understanding of the data is a bit different, depending who you are. Let's assume two unhooked, academically advanced student from a UMC family. Student A attends private, student B attends private. Their respective HS both have ~50 students in their class who are aiming for a T20 college/uni. These students are competing for admission against other students across the country who are also well-qualified, and also competing directly against their peers at their HS (a 2nd or 3rd offer of admission at a given HS is a lower bar than the 7th or 8th... the college/unis avoid admitting too many from the same HS).

Student A is competing against a greater proportion of kids with hooks at their HS, and therefore their odds of admission are diminished within this cohort. The distribution of academic ability of students at their private HS is skewed in the "average and above" academic range, so their HS has a comparatively high cohort of T20-competitive kids, primarily because there is a lower denominator (few academically below-average kids).

Student B has a similar-sized cohort of local competition at their HS, but fewer of their peers have hooks. As such, his prospects amongst his peers are comparatively better than Student A, due to the more even playing field. The public HS has a much higher percentage of kids in the "average and below" academic range, which brings the HS's percentage of T20-admits way down, but that's immaterial for the ~50 students in the T20-competitive cohort. You could add another 200 non-T20-competitive kids to the school and bring that T20-admit percentage down even lower, but that has no impact on the prospects of T20-competitive cohort, as they are just competing amongst themselves (and nationally).

This is difficult to follow your train of thought. What are you trying to say exactly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are some Feeder schools into Dartmouth?

None in the DMV.

St. Albans has sent 17 to Dartmouth over the last five years, the same number as they have sent to Yale over the last five years, but less than Chicago (37)

https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/at-a-glance

yes, they have about a 100% admissions rate to Dartmouth for boys over a certain (extremely high) GPA.
They have similar results with a number of other top schools (not all but some).

This is not unique to STA--it's similar at all the top privates. They're not like publics where there are a large number of kids who have 4.0s or close to it. At the top privates there may be 1 or 2 kids with a 3.95+.
A's are very hard to get--some classes only give 1 or 2 between all students. If you can manage to be that kid in all your classes you can pretty much pick your college or at least be assured that you'll get into one of your top 2 choices. However, the problem is that it's really hard to be this kid. You have to be super smart, diligent (no quiz you just blow off and of course no late work ever) and also lucky. There are teachers that don't give As.

This is the biggest bunch of bs I have ever heard. A few top students got rejected from Dartmouth. Dartmouth and Princeton are both still very legacy heavy admits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your goal is simply Ivy, then save your cash, send your kid to a regular high school where they can be the superstar of their class.

You are way underestimating how hard it is to be "the superstar" at a public high school, especially in the DC area.

Enroll in Jackson-Reed. It's not hard at all to get a 4.5 GPA and carve a nice extracurricular niche in time for college admissions.

The problem with Jackson-Reed is that even the kids who do "well" in college admissions get to college without really knowing how to write a term paper or a good essay. Actual teaching is uneven to poor. The amount of written work expected is minimal, and teacher feedback is even more so. Sad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Boarding schools.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherrim/2024/03/11/how-to-choose-the-right-boarding-school-for-your-ivy-league-bound-student/?sh=6c5882d6301e

I’m not sure they’re feeders for Dartmouth. According to 2024 IG posts, only 3 Phillips Exeter Academy seniors are attending Dartmouth in the fall.

Dartmouth is a good school, but what's noteworthy is that GDS consistently has such an enviable record at Harvard and the other Top Ivys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are some Feeder schools into Dartmouth?

None in the DMV.

St. Albans has sent 17 to Dartmouth over the last five years, the same number as they have sent to Yale over the last five years, but less than Chicago (37)

https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/at-a-glance

yes, they have about a 100% admissions rate to Dartmouth for boys over a certain (extremely high) GPA.
They have similar results with a number of other top schools (not all but some).

This is not unique to STA--it's similar at all the top privates. They're not like publics where there are a large number of kids who have 4.0s or close to it. At the top privates there may be 1 or 2 kids with a 3.95+.
A's are very hard to get--some classes only give 1 or 2 between all students. If you can manage to be that kid in all your classes you can pretty much pick your college or at least be assured that you'll get into one of your top 2 choices. However, the problem is that it's really hard to be this kid. You have to be super smart, diligent (no quiz you just blow off and of course no late work ever) and also lucky. There are teachers that don't give As.

This is the biggest bunch of bs I have ever heard. A few top students got rejected from Dartmouth. Dartmouth and Princeton are both still very legacy heavy admits.

Not according to naviance.

[Anonymous]

This is so boring.

And a short sighted way to choose a school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are some Feeder schools into Dartmouth?

None in the DMV.

St. Albans has sent 17 to Dartmouth over the last five years, the same number as they have sent to Yale over the last five years, but less than Chicago (37)

https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/at-a-glance

yes, they have about a 100% admissions rate to Dartmouth for boys over a certain (extremely high) GPA.
They have similar results with a number of other top schools (not all but some).

This is not unique to STA--it's similar at all the top privates. They're not like publics where there are a large number of kids who have 4.0s or close to it. At the top privates there may be 1 or 2 kids with a 3.95+.
A's are very hard to get--some classes only give 1 or 2 between all students. If you can manage to be that kid in all your classes you can pretty much pick your college or at least be assured that you'll get into one of your top 2 choices. However, the problem is that it's really hard to be this kid. You have to be super smart, diligent (no quiz you just blow off and of course no late work ever) and also lucky. There are teachers that don't give As.

This is the biggest bunch of bs I have ever heard. A few top students got rejected from Dartmouth. Dartmouth and Princeton are both still very legacy heavy admits.

Not according to naviance.

I know several top students within past few years with A averages and above 1550 SATs or 35/36 ACTs at STA that did not get into Dartmouth. Legacies have a strong preference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are some Feeder schools into Dartmouth?

None in the DMV.

St. Albans has sent 17 to Dartmouth over the last five years, the same number as they have sent to Yale over the last five years, but less than Chicago (37)

https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/at-a-glance

yes, they have about a 100% admissions rate to Dartmouth for boys over a certain (extremely high) GPA.
They have similar results with a number of other top schools (not all but some).

This is not unique to STA--it's similar at all the top privates. They're not like publics where there are a large number of kids who have 4.0s or close to it. At the top privates there may be 1 or 2 kids with a 3.95+.
A's are very hard to get--some classes only give 1 or 2 between all students. If you can manage to be that kid in all your classes you can pretty much pick your college or at least be assured that you'll get into one of your top 2 choices. However, the problem is that it's really hard to be this kid. You have to be super smart, diligent (no quiz you just blow off and of course no late work ever) and also lucky. There are teachers that don't give As.

This is the biggest bunch of bs I have ever heard. A few top students got rejected from Dartmouth. Dartmouth and Princeton are both still very legacy heavy admits.

Not according to naviance.

Naviance does not tell all. Trust me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are some Feeder schools into Dartmouth?

None in the DMV.

St. Albans has sent 17 to Dartmouth over the last five years, the same number as they have sent to Yale over the last five years, but less than Chicago (37)

https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/at-a-glance

yes, they have about a 100% admissions rate to Dartmouth for boys over a certain (extremely high) GPA.
They have similar results with a number of other top schools (not all but some).

This is not unique to STA--it's similar at all the top privates. They're not like publics where there are a large number of kids who have 4.0s or close to it. At the top privates there may be 1 or 2 kids with a 3.95+.
A's are very hard to get--some classes only give 1 or 2 between all students. If you can manage to be that kid in all your classes you can pretty much pick your college or at least be assured that you'll get into one of your top 2 choices. However, the problem is that it's really hard to be this kid. You have to be super smart, diligent (no quiz you just blow off and of course no late work ever) and also lucky. There are teachers that don't give As.

This is the biggest bunch of bs I have ever heard. A few top students got rejected from Dartmouth. Dartmouth and Princeton are both still very legacy heavy admits.

Not according to naviance.

I know several top students within past few years with A averages and above 1550 SATs or 35/36 ACTs at STA that did not get into Dartmouth. Legacies have a strong preference.

There are many kids not only from DC but from all over the country and the world with those top stats. There are not enough spaces in the Ivy League to take them all even if they wanted to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are some Feeder schools into Dartmouth?

None in the DMV.

St. Albans has sent 17 to Dartmouth over the last five years, the same number as they have sent to Yale over the last five years, but less than Chicago (37)

https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/at-a-glance

yes, they have about a 100% admissions rate to Dartmouth for boys over a certain (extremely high) GPA.
They have similar results with a number of other top schools (not all but some).

This is not unique to STA--it's similar at all the top privates. They're not like publics where there are a large number of kids who have 4.0s or close to it. At the top privates there may be 1 or 2 kids with a 3.95+.
A's are very hard to get--some classes only give 1 or 2 between all students. If you can manage to be that kid in all your classes you can pretty much pick your college or at least be assured that you'll get into one of your top 2 choices. However, the problem is that it's really hard to be this kid. You have to be super smart, diligent (no quiz you just blow off and of course no late work ever) and also lucky. There are teachers that don't give As.

This is the biggest bunch of bs I have ever heard. A few top students got rejected from Dartmouth. Dartmouth and Princeton are both still very legacy heavy admits.

Not according to naviance.

I know several top students within past few years with A averages and above 1550 SATs or 35/36 ACTs at STA that did not get into Dartmouth. Legacies have a strong preference.

The Dartmouth line at STA is not "an A average with a 1550/35". It's higher than that but there is a line above which all boys have been accepted. (and some below the line) But the line is not "an A average". At STA GPA is numerical--there are many degrees of an A.