Georgetown or Northwestern

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Northwestern really, REALLY cares about ED. I can't speak to Georgetown, but Northwestern really prizes the ED applicant, and it's much easier to get in that way. (The "why Northwestern" essay is also crucial--they really want people who are passionate about wanting to go there.) It's my sense Northwestern also really cares about test scores, which your kid has. That's because Northwestern wants to think it's on par with the Ivies (and wants the scores to prove it), so it doesn't like to admit students, in my anecdotal experience, who will drag down its averages. And it definitely doesn't want to be the backup to some Ivy-striving kid. It wants to be a student's first choice. Another thing to consider: Northwestern is on a quarter system--which means it's also very intense, as there's no room for error with such short terms. But this does allow for more exploration in classes (as there are four sets of classes each year instead of just two under a semester system). It also means your kid starts late (mid Sept) and ends late (in mid June, as only one quarter can fit before xmas), which can preclude some summer internship options. Also the post-xmas can be a long haul: as 3 quarters in a row. But I do think it's a fun social life, etc. with big sports fandom, etc., and it has a bit of a pre-professional culture, so if kid wants business, that seems like a good fit. Certainly all the big companies recruit there. I also think it cares about legacies as, again, it's all about people lovin' Northwestern. So you are right--if he decides it's his first choice, he'd be insane not to ED. The one thing I might weigh is DC is going thru some dysfunction as a city right now. A lot of crime and city gov't that's a bit of a mess. Depending on the outcome of the election, it could also be the site of some future political unrest. Evanston is more suburban and away from the fray, but that cuts both ways: if your child wants to be IN a big city (not outside one), then Georgetown may be the better fit. Fwiw. Good luck to your child.


On the note of test scores, Northwestern is keeping test optional next year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Northwestern for sure. I give the president a lot of credit for reaching an agreement with the protesters. Very progressive president.


There should never have been a negotiation.

They are students who signed a code of conduct before enrolling.

Follow the rules or get suspended should have been the only discussion. They should have rec38ved the same consequences as a group of red hat wearing frat boys would have if they had said the antisemitic things that these students did.


You would have been great for the Civil Rights movement! /s
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Northwestern for sure. I give the president a lot of credit for reaching an agreement with the protesters. Very progressive president.


There should never have been a negotiation.

They are students who signed a code of conduct before enrolling.

Follow the rules or get suspended should have been the only discussion. They should have rec38ved the same consequences as a group of red hat wearing frat boys would have if they had said the antisemitic things that these students did.


You would have been great for the Civil Rights movement! /s


We don't live in the 60s and students pay shit ton of money to be there and study.
Students have every right to study in peace without disturbance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Northwestern for sure. I give the president a lot of credit for reaching an agreement with the protesters. Very progressive president.


There should never have been a negotiation.

They are students who signed a code of conduct before enrolling.

Follow the rules or get suspended should have been the only discussion. They should have rec38ved the same consequences as a group of red hat wearing frat boys would have if they had said the antisemitic things that these students did.


You would have been great for the Civil Rights movement! /s


The behavior of these activists does not have even a drop of the purpose or grace of the 1960s civil rights protestors.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Northwestern for sure. I give the president a lot of credit for reaching an agreement with the protesters. Very progressive president.


There should never have been a negotiation.

They are students who signed a code of conduct before enrolling.

Follow the rules or get suspended should have been the only discussion. They should have rec38ved the same consequences as a group of red hat wearing frat boys would have if they had said the antisemitic things that these students did.


You would have been great for the Civil Rights movement! /s


These protests going on now are like the UVA tiki torch folks, just repackaged. Their entire purpose is antisemitism, just like the UVA guys. Their words make that clear. They need to have the same response against their behavior as the Charlottesville morons received.
Anonymous
Northwestern still likes high test scores-they probably are staying TO for athletes since they are in the Big 10. But a 35/36 and 1530 plus will always be welcomed!
Anonymous
Northwestern president has been called to testify before congress in 2 weeks….this will be a disaster
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Northwestern president has been called to testify before congress in 2 weeks….this will be a disaster


I heard about Yale, UCLA, and Michigan. First I’ve heard about NU.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Northwestern president has been called to testify before congress in 2 weeks….this will be a disaster


I heard about Yale, UCLA, and Michigan. First I’ve heard about NU.


Whatever was reported about Michigan was likely overblown. The "protest" at the graduation ceremony in the football stadium didn't stop the proceedings and after about 5 minutes, the protestors were pushed to the back of the venue where they were promptly ignored.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Northwestern president has been called to testify before congress in 2 weeks….this will be a disaster


I heard about Yale, UCLA, and Michigan. First I’ve heard about NU.


Whatever was reported about Michigan was likely overblown. The "protest" at the graduation ceremony in the football stadium didn't stop the proceedings and after about 5 minutes, the protestors were pushed to the back of the venue where they were promptly ignored.


I heard from someone there that the parents and students drowned them out, and security quickly got them out of the area.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Northwestern president has been called to testify before congress in 2 weeks….this will be a disaster


I heard about Yale, UCLA, and Michigan. First I’ve heard about NU.


Breaking news on Crains in Chicago…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Northwestern president has been called to testify before congress in 2 weeks….this will be a disaster


I heard about Yale, UCLA, and Michigan. First I’ve heard about NU.


Google…

https://abc7chicago.com/amp/northwestern-university-president-michael-schill-to-testify-house-committee-on-education-workforce-addressing-antisemitism/14775512/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Northwestern president has been called to testify before congress in 2 weeks….this will be a disaster


I heard about Yale, UCLA, and Michigan. First I’ve heard about NU.


Whatever was reported about Michigan was likely overblown. The "protest" at the graduation ceremony in the football stadium didn't stop the proceedings and after about 5 minutes, the protestors were pushed to the back of the venue where they were promptly ignored.


I heard from someone there that the parents and students drowned them out, and security quickly got them out of the area.


pretty much. no pepper spray, no violence, just moved them out. Ironically, the speakers were being very sympathetic to fighting for first amendment rights and listening to the least empowered among us, but the protestors wouldn't have received those messages because they were trying (and failing) to be disruptive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Jewish alum from Northwestern, with a Jewish kid at Northwestern right now. Northwestern is INCREDIBLY safe for Jewish students. It's not only located in a heavily Jewish area, population-wise, several of its hallmark programs and schools are named after Jewish donors, the current president is Jewish -- as were the last two presidents.

Being anti-genocide and protesting peacefully to that end is NOT antisemitic. It's really disheartening to see so many Jewish alums, both at NU and at other institutions, make these conflations.

Heck, this video was taken at Northwestern: https://twitter.com/TalbertSwan/status/1784412078704337009

But to answer your question, OP, Northwestern. Hands down.


+1 - In also Jewish and deeply Zionist. I’m also very comfortable with peaceful protests, even when I disagree with their mission. To me, that is 100% American, and more broadly, a feature of a healthy democracy.

I protested Netanyahu this past summer in Tel Aviv. Many of my Israeli friends disagreed, but no one tried to shame me out of attending, let along tried to shut the protests down. Democracy means allowing differences of opinion - even when you disagree and it feels uncomfortable. (But uncomfortable does not automatically mean insane.)
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