Outcomes: private high school results

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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of kids at public schools in the DMV area graduate with a 4.0? I keep hearing that there is grade inflation at public schools, but it's not the case in our school. Ours has 5% of kids with 4.0.

People are making sh¡t up. It’s like an urban legend at this point.

It’s an excuse people use to explain to themselves how a public school student was admitted to a college that rejected a private school student.

Here are the receipts. Yorktown gives a 4.0 for any A. And inexplicably a 3.5 for a B+ (this is all unweighted, they also give extra points for honors etc). It should be a 3.3 for a B+. And Churchill has 62% of the class with a 4.01 or higher.

https://yhs.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/41/2022/09/School-Profle-2022-23.pdf

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/churchillhs/uploadedfiles/careercenter/class20of20202020final20profile.pdf

The scale is different. Because of the bump for honors and AP classes. But if you think admissions don’t k wi how to read a Yorktown transcript, I got nothing for you. There is a way to distinguish between a Yorktown kid who has all A’s in a ton of AP classes and one that does not. There are not many kids who get all A’s in all AP classes coming out of the top publics. It just doesn’t happen. And the myth that everyone can retake a test to get an A - also BS. Retest policy means you can bring your score up in FCPS to an 80% max. You are retesting, you are not getting an A. The policy is in place to help kids in danger of failing. Not competing with your private school kid for Harvard.

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Anonymous wrote:They use landscape- the grades don’t matter independently; it’s all compared to others from same HS using the software Landscape.

AI does it instantly….and it tells them who is the strongest applicant.

How can you pick the strongest applicant if 50% have a 4.0. Do you accept them all?

Because they scale is not 4.0 for those schools? So you distinguish between the 4.1 and 4.5. Is this that hard for you?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes my kids' private they graduated from within the last few years seem to be doing better this year than when they were there.

Why do you think that is?

Clearly, they are not admitting necessarily stronger students all around.

Is it really the Supreme Court decision? So the beneficiaries of that decision are private school white and Asian kids?

Yes......will be interesting if national press examines all of the IG for national private schools and is able to glean something here....

My kid is a Senior at a DC private and less than 1/2 the class chose to post on IG. You are missing more than 50% of the class. A lot of kids are turning away from SM lately. Thank god.

Agree. Only a couple dozen posted on our public’s instagram. And none of the students who got into top colleges did.

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My kid is at a NYC competitive public. I think the top privates always have an advantage b/c so many talented kids attending the top public schools and the private schools are simply smaller and since schools only take so many kids from one school it makes admissions somewhat harder. That being said, the colleges trust and know that grading is hard (I assume to be honest NYC specialized schools have less grade inflation than top privates) and all the kids take standardized test (don’t know any of kids friends who did not submit). And despite maybe slightly better outcomes from private schools, my kid and her friends are all going to amazing schools. One of her friends going to an in-state public top engineering school but everyone else headed to T25/Top 5 SLAC. I don’t think college outcomes would have been much different for these kids if they had attended a $60k/year private or from their public. They have received also received an amazing education (albeit not personalized but also not coddled which may be a good thing).

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There is a marked difference at the Chicago private high schools this year. It’s noticeably better than last year.

Think the SCOTUS decision helped.

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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of kids at public schools in the DMV area graduate with a 4.0? I keep hearing that there is grade inflation at public schools, but it's not the case in our school. Ours has 5% of kids with 4.0.

Why does everyone here claim their child has a 4.0 - 4.5, both private and public?

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Anonymous wrote:Of course there should be more NM Scholars from a private school that requires a rigorous application than a public school. That's expected. Public schools have a huge range of kids so maybe not accurate to compare the two? But also accept that the kids at the top at a public school can do just as well as the private school kids? Private school kids (not all) also have more resources and wealth to help with the admissions process.

The Ivy admits I know this year are pretty evenly split between private and public schools.

Not my experience this year.
Public school kids getting into large OOS flagships at higher rate than private (UCLA/UCB/Michigan/Texas/UVA)….

Definitely larger number of ivies per capita at private.

The public school kids should be priority in all of the public flagships. These schools were always meant to educate students of families with lower income levels. Why would anyone spend so much on private high school just to end up at a public university?

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Anonymous wrote:Of course there should be more NM Scholars from a private school that requires a rigorous application than a public school. That's expected. Public schools have a huge range of kids so maybe not accurate to compare the two? But also accept that the kids at the top at a public school can do just as well as the private school kids? Private school kids (not all) also have more resources and wealth to help with the admissions process.

The Ivy admits I know this year are pretty evenly split between private and public schools.

Not my experience this year.
Public school kids getting into large OOS flagships at higher rate than private (UCLA/UCB/Michigan/Texas/UVA)….

Definitely larger number of ivies per capita at private.

The public school kids should be priority in all of the public flagships. These schools were always meant to educate students of families with lower income levels. Why would anyone spend so much on private high school just to end up at a public university?

To dominate at the public universities and get a better college prep (hence: preparatory schools). The smartest kids in my dorm came out of a dc private at U Michigan.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course there should be more NM Scholars from a private school that requires a rigorous application than a public school. That's expected. Public schools have a huge range of kids so maybe not accurate to compare the two? But also accept that the kids at the top at a public school can do just as well as the private school kids? Private school kids (not all) also have more resources and wealth to help with the admissions process.

The Ivy admits I know this year are pretty evenly split between private and public schools.

Not my experience this year.
Public school kids getting into large OOS flagships at higher rate than private (UCLA/UCB/Michigan/Texas/UVA)….

Definitely larger number of ivies per capita at private.

The public school kids should be priority in all of the public flagships. These schools were always meant to educate students of families with lower income levels. Why would anyone spend so much on private high school just to end up at a public university?

Some want single sex education 14-18. Some want a smaller school and class sizes in high school. The goal for many isn’t an Ivy or where they matriculate—but the foundational education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes my kids' private they graduated from within the last few years seem to be doing better this year than when they were there.

Why do you think that is?

Clearly, they are not admitting necessarily stronger students all around.

Is it really the Supreme Court decision? So the beneficiaries of that decision are private school white and Asian kids?

Full pay white kids, maybe.

Asians don't do privates much. Mostly public HS.

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Supreme Court decision benefitted upper class white kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Supreme Court decision benefitted upper class white kids.

Do we really think this is true?

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Anonymous wrote:There is a marked difference at the Chicago private high schools this year. It’s noticeably better than last year.

Think the SCOTUS decision helped.

Then you’re really bad at math.

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Anonymous wrote:Supreme Court decision benefitted upper class white kids.

I think it benefited all wealthy kids. The non-white wealthy kids seem to be doing really well too.

May have also benefited rural privileged kids too.

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Anonymous wrote:Supreme Court decision benefitted upper class white kids.

No. There are too few URMs at highly selective schools to move the needle by screwing them. Statistically meaningless.