Outcomes: private high school results

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LA private, graduating class this year was very strong placement-wise.

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Our private did very well at colleges and universities where they typically have not historically sent many students, including certain Ivies.

It’s almost as if colleges got rid of their feeder high schools, but looked for other private schools to get a new batch of students from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: don't think this proves that public schools are easier. All schools gives a 4.0 for an A. Our school gives a 4.0 for all A's and a 3.0 for all Bs. So if you have a 89.9 you get a 3.0.

A B+ should technically be a 3.67.

And I would expect that 62% of Churchill would have a 4.01 or higher on a WEIGHTED scale. Most of the kids are taking honors and AP and 4.01 is not in any way indicative of all As.

But we do know that 59% of the class has an unweighted GPA between 3.5 and 4.0, which goes to show how crazy the grading curve/standards are at Churchill and possibly MCPS generally.

[Anonymous]

I don't see it. I've seen the grade distribution at a school like Harvard Westlake and about 50% of the kids get an A and the other 50% get a B, and then there are a few Cs, Ds, Fs. We're at a public and it's pretty much the same too - some teacher release grade distribution and it's roughly 10 As, 10 Bs, and then like 6 Cs, Ds, Fs ( in a class of 26 kids). So Churchill's 59% between 3.5-4.0 does seem high but not huge surprise that 50% of the kids of at a school would have a GPA between 3.5 -4.0.

As for "retaking" a class. That's only for kids who get a D or F in a class. They can try to recover the class (by taking the class over again) and get a C. The D or F still remains on the transcript, but the C is calculated into the GPA. I imagine private schools might have an even more generous recovery policy?

I do get that there are schools out there that are plain easy - online schools or schools that rely heavily on online classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's because the colleges trust the private schools' grading. When you have only 5 kids out of 80 who have a 3.9+, and 10 who have above a 3.8 you know what you're getting. None of this "everyone gets an A."

Admissions officer this is 100% BS.

But carry on DCUrban moms you always get this wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of kids at public schools in the DMV area graduate with a 4.0? I keep hearing that there is grade inflation at public schools, but it's not the case in our school. Ours has 5% of kids with 4.0.

People are making sh¡t up. It’s like an urban legend at this point.

It’s an excuse people use to explain to themselves how a public school student was admitted to a college that rejected a private school student.

Here are the receipts. Yorktown gives a 4.0 for any A. And inexplicably a 3.5 for a B+ (this is all unweighted, they also give extra points for honors etc). It should be a 3.3 for a B+. And Churchill has 62% of the class with a 4.01 or higher.

https://yhs.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/41/2022/09/School-Profle-2022-23.pdf

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/churchillhs/uploadedfiles/careercenter/class20of20202020final20profile.pdf

I don't think this proves that public schools are easier. All schools gives a 4.0 for an A. Our school gives a 4.0 for all A's and a 3.0 for all Bs. So if you have a 89.9 you get a 3.0.

A B+ should technically be a 3.67.

And I would expect that 62% of Churchill would have a 4.01 or higher on a WEIGHTED scale. Most of the kids are taking honors and AP and 4.01 is not in any way indicative of all As.

An A- is a 3.67. It’s not a B+ anywhere. And as far as your “3.0” for all B’s - we all know you can retake as many times as you need to get an A. Based on your information we know you aren’t at MCPS, Fairfax, Arlington, or DCPS. What your school is doing isn’t relevant to the discussion.


https://studentservices.stanford.edu/my-academics/evaluations-exams-grades/grades/how-do-i-calculate-my-grade-point-average-gpa

https://infoforfaculty.fas.harvard.edu/book/grade-point-averages#:~:text=The%20Faculty%20of%20Arts%20and,1.00%2C%20D%2D%20%3D%200.67.

https://registrar.virginia.edu/student-records/academic-record

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of kids at public schools in the DMV area graduate with a 4.0? I keep hearing that there is grade inflation at public schools, but it's not the case in our school. Ours has 5% of kids with 4.0.

People are making sh¡t up. It’s like an urban legend at this point.

It’s an excuse people use to explain to themselves how a public school student was admitted to a college that rejected a private school student.

Here are the receipts. Yorktown gives a 4.0 for any A. And inexplicably a 3.5 for a B+ (this is all unweighted, they also give extra points for honors etc). It should be a 3.3 for a B+. And Churchill has 62% of the class with a 4.01 or higher.

https://yhs.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/41/2022/09/School-Profle-2022-23.pdf

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/churchillhs/uploadedfiles/careercenter/class20of20202020final20profile.pdf

I don't think this proves that public schools are easier. All schools gives a 4.0 for an A. Our school gives a 4.0 for all A's and a 3.0 for all Bs. So if you have a 89.9 you get a 3.0.

A B+ should technically be a 3.67.

And I would expect that 62% of Churchill would have a 4.01 or higher on a WEIGHTED scale. Most of the kids are taking honors and AP and 4.01 is not in any way indicative of all As.

An A- is a 3.67. It’s not a B+ anywhere. And as far as your “3.0” for all B’s - we all know you can retake as many times as you need to get an A. Based on your information we know you aren’t at MCPS, Fairfax, Arlington, or DCPS. What your school is doing isn’t relevant to the discussion.


https://studentservices.stanford.edu/my-academics/evaluations-exams-grades/grades/how-do-i-calculate-my-grade-point-average-gpa

https://infoforfaculty.fas.harvard.edu/book/grade-point-averages#:~:text=The%20Faculty%20of%20Arts%20and,1.00%2C%20D%2D%20%3D%200.67.

https://registrar.virginia.edu/student-records/academic-record

Which schools allow retaking as many times to get an A? You're correct, we're not in FCPS any more which I am glad about. I think it would be much harder for my kids to do well in FCPS than where we moved to, meaning FCPS is way more rigorous and harder to get As with the AP heavy culture. We moved out west.

And that was my bad about 3.67 being a B+. It has been eons since I was calculating my GPA in high school. Our current school is flat 4.0, 3.0, 2.0, unweighted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't see it. I've seen the grade distribution at a school like Harvard Westlake and about 50% of the kids get an A and the other 50% get a B, and then there are a few Cs, Ds, Fs. We're at a public and it's pretty much the same too - some teacher release grade distribution and it's roughly 10 As, 10 Bs, and then like 6 Cs, Ds, Fs ( in a class of 26 kids). So Churchill's 59% between 3.5-4.0 does seem high but not huge surprise that 50% of the kids of at a school would have a GPA between 3.5 -4.0.

As for "retaking" a class. That's only for kids who get a D or F in a class. They can try to recover the class (by taking the class over again) and get a C. The D or F still remains on the transcript, but the C is calculated into the GPA. I imagine private schools might have an even more generous recovery policy?

I do get that there are schools out there that are plain easy - online schools or schools that rely heavily on online classes.

I can’t believe I need to point this out, but Harvard Westlake is an elite school that accepts about 20% of students. Most of the kids are brilliant. And your public accepts…everyone. Harvard Westlake kids are earning their grades. That’s why Ivies love them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A B+ should technically be a 3.67.

How do you figure? Almost every scale that I've ever seen has A+/4.33, A/4.0, A-/3.67, B+/3.33, B/3.0 or something along those lines.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's because the colleges trust the private schools' grading. When you have only 5 kids out of 80 who have a 3.9+, and 10 who have above a 3.8 you know what you're getting. None of this "everyone gets an A."

Admissions officer this is 100% BS.

But carry on DCUrban moms you always get this wrong.

I’m not being snarky, “Admissions Officer.” Please explain why schools like GDS and NCS have such amazing college placement. I don’t have a kid at either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And they really need the money. Private school signals full pay.

+1

The odds are stacked in favor of private school kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't see it. I've seen the grade distribution at a school like Harvard Westlake and about 50% of the kids get an A and the other 50% get a B, and then there are a few Cs, Ds, Fs. We're at a public and it's pretty much the same too - some teacher release grade distribution and it's roughly 10 As, 10 Bs, and then like 6 Cs, Ds, Fs ( in a class of 26 kids). So Churchill's 59% between 3.5-4.0 does seem high but not huge surprise that 50% of the kids of at a school would have a GPA between 3.5 -4.0.

As for "retaking" a class. That's only for kids who get a D or F in a class. They can try to recover the class (by taking the class over again) and get a C. The D or F still remains on the transcript, but the C is calculated into the GPA. I imagine private schools might have an even more generous recovery policy?

I do get that there are schools out there that are plain easy - online schools or schools that rely heavily on online classes.

I can’t believe I need to point this out, but Harvard Westlake is an elite school that accepts about 20% of students. Most of the kids are brilliant. And your public accepts…everyone. Harvard Westlake kids are earning their grades. That’s why Ivies love them.

The point is that the grade distribution is similar at privates and publics. The public doesn't have 80% of kids getting As in classes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was definitely not the case for our school - this year was much, much worse.

Sorry, should add it’s a top 10 NE boarding school rather than a local private.

Interesting. Also seeing our boarding school not doing as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see it. I've seen the grade distribution at a school like Harvard Westlake and about 50% of the kids get an A and the other 50% get a B, and then there are a few Cs, Ds, Fs. We're at a public and it's pretty much the same too - some teacher release grade distribution and it's roughly 10 As, 10 Bs, and then like 6 Cs, Ds, Fs ( in a class of 26 kids). So Churchill's 59% between 3.5-4.0 does seem high but not huge surprise that 50% of the kids of at a school would have a GPA between 3.5 -4.0.

As for "retaking" a class. That's only for kids who get a D or F in a class. They can try to recover the class (by taking the class over again) and get a C. The D or F still remains on the transcript, but the C is calculated into the GPA. I imagine private schools might have an even more generous recovery policy?

I do get that there are schools out there that are plain easy - online schools or schools that rely heavily on online classes.

I can’t believe I need to point this out, but Harvard Westlake is an elite school that accepts about 20% of students. Most of the kids are brilliant. And your public accepts…everyone. Harvard Westlake kids are earning their grades. That’s why Ivies love them.

The point is that the grade distribution is similar at privates and publics. The public doesn't have 80% of kids getting As in classes.

50% of a public school should not be getting an A. It is meaningless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't see it. I've seen the grade distribution at a school like Harvard Westlake and about 50% of the kids get an A and the other 50% get a B, and then there are a few Cs, Ds, Fs. We're at a public and it's pretty much the same too - some teacher release grade distribution and it's roughly 10 As, 10 Bs, and then like 6 Cs, Ds, Fs ( in a class of 26 kids). So Churchill's 59% between 3.5-4.0 does seem high but not huge surprise that 50% of the kids of at a school would have a GPA between 3.5 -4.0.

As for "retaking" a class. That's only for kids who get a D or F in a class. They can try to recover the class (by taking the class over again) and get a C. The D or F still remains on the transcript, but the C is calculated into the GPA. I imagine private schools might have an even more generous recovery policy?

I do get that there are schools out there that are plain easy - online schools or schools that rely heavily on online classes.

I can’t believe I need to point this out, but Harvard Westlake is an elite school that accepts about 20% of students. Most of the kids are brilliant. And your public accepts…everyone. Harvard Westlake kids are earning their grades. That’s why Ivies love them.

This….. come on ppl. Do better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This was definitely not the case for our school - this year was much, much worse.

Sorry, should add it’s a top 10 NE boarding school rather than a local private.

Interesting. Also seeing our boarding school not doing as well.

It’s bc the schools are going to “new” private schools. I really think this is true…