“I’m a cultural Christian”, says Richard Dawkins

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Anonymous wrote:How weak must your conception of faith be if you think his saying “yeah, I kind of like Christmas carols” means “he’s almost accepted Jesus Christ as his lord and savior!”?

His eyes are opened to Christianity’s cultural benefits.


Good things come from good things.

Doubt it. Enjoying music and pretty decorations doesn’t equate to a true believer in Christ rising from the dead.

You enjoy the benefits of living in a society that influenced Christianity. All of our presidents have been Christian, and all our elected officials minus a handful are Christian.

It is against a framework of Christianity that all of our thought has significance.

Man I know a whole buncha ancient greeks that would be shocked by your claim.

Along with the people who invented letters and numbers.

As well as Washington, Jefferson and Monroe.

Would you prefer to live in Ancient Greece?

I'm a DP, but I'm pretty sure that person you're responding to was commenting on the ridiculous comment that "It is against a framework of Christianity that all of our thought has significance." That's complete nonsense. As that poster pointed out (and it wasn't me, honest), Jefferson and Madison looked to democracy (Greece) and Rome (the Senate for example) when devising our Constitution. These long pre-dated Christianity. Jefferson himself was a deist, meaning he didn't belief in a personal God that got involved in human affairs. In fact, I don't see much at all where Christianity provides a framework against which all of our thoughts have significance. Maybe you could elaborate?

Ancient Greece and Rome enthusiastically embraced slavery. I don’t have enough time to educate you about the evolution of western civilization from classical antiquity. You can start with Tom Hollands Dominion and come back once you have grasped the basics.

A good book. What pp is suggesting about the influence of Christian values on secular society, even if it wasn't phrased clearly, didn't come from nowhere. There's actually some academic consensus on it.

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Anonymous wrote:How weak must your conception of faith be if you think his saying “yeah, I kind of like Christmas carols” means “he’s almost accepted Jesus Christ as his lord and savior!”?

His eyes are opened to Christianity’s cultural benefits.


Good things come from good things.

Doubt it. Enjoying music and pretty decorations doesn’t equate to a true believer in Christ rising from the dead.

You enjoy the benefits of living in a society that influenced Christianity. All of our presidents have been Christian, and all our elected officials minus a handful are Christian.

It is against a framework of Christianity that all of our thought has significance.

DP. This is actually a line of academic argument. We may be increasingly secular as a society, but our values, especially the progressive values that are shared by increasingly secular people, are still very Christian. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=tom+holland+dominion&crid=2DV4IY9SNWYSZ&sprefix=tom+holland%2Caps%2C83&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_3_11

Correct.most things which people think of as universal human rights are really just Christian values that achieved prominence due to the political and economic success of Christian societies.

?? I'm very sure a lot of the slave holders in the South were very strong Christians. In fact, I see noting in the Bible that condemns it.

The effort to abolish slavery, which has been pact with near ubiquity since civilization began, was led by white Christians.

Educate yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:How weak must your conception of faith be if you think his saying “yeah, I kind of like Christmas carols” means “he’s almost accepted Jesus Christ as his lord and savior!”?

His eyes are opened to Christianity’s cultural benefits.


Good things come from good things.

Doubt it. Enjoying music and pretty decorations doesn’t equate to a true believer in Christ rising from the dead.

You enjoy the benefits of living in a society that influenced Christianity. All of our presidents have been Christian, and all our elected officials minus a handful are Christian.

It is against a framework of Christianity that all of our thought has significance.

Man I know a whole buncha ancient greeks that would be shocked by your claim.

Along with the people who invented letters and numbers.

As well as Washington, Jefferson and Monroe.

Would you prefer to live in Ancient Greece?

I'm a DP, but I'm pretty sure that person you're responding to was commenting on the ridiculous comment that "It is against a framework of Christianity that all of our thought has significance." That's complete nonsense. As that poster pointed out (and it wasn't me, honest), Jefferson and Madison looked to democracy (Greece) and Rome (the Senate for example) when devising our Constitution. These long pre-dated Christianity. Jefferson himself was a deist, meaning he didn't belief in a personal God that got involved in human affairs. In fact, I don't see much at all where Christianity provides a framework against which all of our thoughts have significance. Maybe you could elaborate?

Ancient Greece and Rome enthusiastically embraced slavery. I don’t have enough time to educate you about the evolution of western civilization from classical antiquity. You can start with Tom Hollands Dominion and come back once you have grasped the basics.

A good book. What pp is suggesting about the influence of Christian values on secular society, even if it wasn't phrased clearly, didn't come from nowhere. There's actually some academic consensus on it.

PS. And Dawkins and Hitchens actually agree about the ongoing influence of Christian values on secular society, as evidenced by OP's link. So it's a little weird that DCUM's atheists are trying to argue otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:How weak must your conception of faith be if you think his saying “yeah, I kind of like Christmas carols” means “he’s almost accepted Jesus Christ as his lord and savior!”?

His eyes are opened to Christianity’s cultural benefits.


Good things come from good things.

Doubt it. Enjoying music and pretty decorations doesn’t equate to a true believer in Christ rising from the dead.

You enjoy the benefits of living in a society that influenced Christianity. All of our presidents have been Christian, and all our elected officials minus a handful are Christian.

It is against a framework of Christianity that all of our thought has significance.

Man I know a whole buncha ancient greeks that would be shocked by your claim.

Along with the people who invented letters and numbers.

As well as Washington, Jefferson and Monroe.

Would you prefer to live in Ancient Greece?

WTF does this question have to do with the point?

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Anonymous wrote:How weak must your conception of faith be if you think his saying “yeah, I kind of like Christmas carols” means “he’s almost accepted Jesus Christ as his lord and savior!”?

His eyes are opened to Christianity’s cultural benefits.


Good things come from good things.

Doubt it. Enjoying music and pretty decorations doesn’t equate to a true believer in Christ rising from the dead.

You enjoy the benefits of living in a society that influenced Christianity. All of our presidents have been Christian, and all our elected officials minus a handful are Christian.

It is against a framework of Christianity that all of our thought has significance.

Man I know a whole buncha ancient greeks that would be shocked by your claim.

Along with the people who invented letters and numbers.

As well as Washington, Jefferson and Monroe.

Would you prefer to live in Ancient Greece?

I'm a DP, but I'm pretty sure that person you're responding to was commenting on the ridiculous comment that "It is against a framework of Christianity that all of our thought has significance." That's complete nonsense. As that poster pointed out (and it wasn't me, honest), Jefferson and Madison looked to democracy (Greece) and Rome (the Senate for example) when devising our Constitution. These long pre-dated Christianity. Jefferson himself was a deist, meaning he didn't belief in a personal God that got involved in human affairs. In fact, I don't see much at all where Christianity provides a framework against which all of our thoughts have significance. Maybe you could elaborate?

Ancient Greece and Rome enthusiastically embraced slavery. I don’t have enough time to educate you about the evolution of western civilization from classical antiquity. You can start with Tom Hollands Dominion and come back once you have grasped the basics.

Oh, I see. And the "Bible belt" south didn't?

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Anonymous wrote:Still waiting to hear why OP and others care so much about this random, British guy who is an atheist.

Not OP, but he's got a big mouth and is kinda hard to ignore.

Where do you hear him speaking?

go away, troll

Not a troll. Why don’t you want to answer? Do you subscribe to his newsletter or something?

He's in the news a lot. I know, I know, that requires reading, and maybe that's not your thing.

What’s your news source that covers him?

FoxNews? Bible Beaters Daily?

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Anonymous wrote:Still waiting to hear why OP and others care so much about this random, British guy who is an atheist.

Not OP, but he's got a big mouth and is kinda hard to ignore.

Where do you hear him speaking?

go away, troll

Not a troll. Why don’t you want to answer? Do you subscribe to his newsletter or something?

He's in the news a lot. I know, I know, that requires reading, and maybe that's not your thing.

What’s your news source that covers him?

FoxNews? Bible Beaters Daily?

You're a troll. But to humor you.... that post was addressed to me. And I read the Guardian, NY Times, and others. Happy?

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Anonymous wrote:Still waiting to hear why OP and others care so much about this random, British guy who is an atheist.

Not OP, but he's got a big mouth and is kinda hard to ignore.

Where do you hear him speaking?

go away, troll

Not a troll. Why don’t you want to answer? Do you subscribe to his newsletter or something?

He's in the news a lot. I know, I know, that requires reading, and maybe that's not your thing.

What’s your news source that covers him?

FoxNews? Bible Beaters Daily?

Oh look. DCUM's low-info atheists lost the argument about Christianity's influence on secular society's values (thanks, Richard Dawkins, for the assist!). So here they are dredging up posts from a page or two ago and hurling the insults again.

Do you guys have the slightest notion how unappealing you make atheism look?

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Anonymous wrote:Still waiting to hear why OP and others care so much about this random, British guy who is an atheist.

Not OP, but he's got a big mouth and is kinda hard to ignore.

Where do you hear him speaking?

go away, troll

Not a troll. Why don’t you want to answer? Do you subscribe to his newsletter or something?

He's in the news a lot. I know, I know, that requires reading, and maybe that's not your thing.

What’s your news source that covers him?

FoxNews? Bible Beaters Daily?

You're a troll. But to humor you.... that post was addressed to me. And I read the Guardian, NY Times, and others. Happy?

You frequently read about Dawkins in which of those?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Still waiting to hear why OP and others care so much about this random, British guy who is an atheist.

Not OP, but he's got a big mouth and is kinda hard to ignore.

Where do you hear him speaking?

go away, troll

Not a troll. Why don’t you want to answer? Do you subscribe to his newsletter or something?

He's in the news a lot. I know, I know, that requires reading, and maybe that's not your thing.

What’s your news source that covers him?

FoxNews? Bible Beaters Daily?

Oh look. DCUM's low-info atheists lost the argument about Christianity's influence on secular society's values (thanks, Richard Dawkins, for the assist!). So here they are dredging up posts from a page or two ago and hurling the insults again.

Do you guys have the slightest notion how unappealing you make atheism look?

There are multiple posters. I’m following up where I left off before I had a meeting.

I’m not trying to sell anything. I DGAF if you believe in your sky fairy or not.

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Anonymous wrote:How weak must your conception of faith be if you think his saying “yeah, I kind of like Christmas carols” means “he’s almost accepted Jesus Christ as his lord and savior!”?

His eyes are opened to Christianity’s cultural benefits.


Good things come from good things.

Doubt it. Enjoying music and pretty decorations doesn’t equate to a true believer in Christ rising from the dead.

You enjoy the benefits of living in a society that influenced Christianity. All of our presidents have been Christian, and all our elected officials minus a handful are Christian.

It is against a framework of Christianity that all of our thought has significance.

Man I know a whole buncha ancient greeks that would be shocked by your claim.

Along with the people who invented letters and numbers.

As well as Washington, Jefferson and Monroe.

Would you prefer to live in Ancient Greece?

I'm a DP, but I'm pretty sure that person you're responding to was commenting on the ridiculous comment that "It is against a framework of Christianity that all of our thought has significance." That's complete nonsense. As that poster pointed out (and it wasn't me, honest), Jefferson and Madison looked to democracy (Greece) and Rome (the Senate for example) when devising our Constitution. These long pre-dated Christianity. Jefferson himself was a deist, meaning he didn't belief in a personal God that got involved in human affairs. In fact, I don't see much at all where Christianity provides a framework against which all of our thoughts have significance. Maybe you could elaborate?

Ancient Greece and Rome enthusiastically embraced slavery. I don’t have enough time to educate you about the evolution of western civilization from classical antiquity. You can start with Tom Hollands Dominion and come back once you have grasped the basics.

Oh, I see. And the "Bible belt" south didn't?

Try to use some critical thinking. I know it’s hard. The vast majority of societies in human history embraced slavery. Until Christians abolished it.

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Anonymous wrote:How weak must your conception of faith be if you think his saying “yeah, I kind of like Christmas carols” means “he’s almost accepted Jesus Christ as his lord and savior!”?

His eyes are opened to Christianity’s cultural benefits.


Good things come from good things.

Doubt it. Enjoying music and pretty decorations doesn’t equate to a true believer in Christ rising from the dead.

You enjoy the benefits of living in a society that influenced Christianity. All of our presidents have been Christian, and all our elected officials minus a handful are Christian.

It is against a framework of Christianity that all of our thought has significance.

Man I know a whole buncha ancient greeks that would be shocked by your claim.

Along with the people who invented letters and numbers.

As well as Washington, Jefferson and Monroe.

Would you prefer to live in Ancient Greece?

I'm a DP, but I'm pretty sure that person you're responding to was commenting on the ridiculous comment that "It is against a framework of Christianity that all of our thought has significance." That's complete nonsense. As that poster pointed out (and it wasn't me, honest), Jefferson and Madison looked to democracy (Greece) and Rome (the Senate for example) when devising our Constitution. These long pre-dated Christianity. Jefferson himself was a deist, meaning he didn't belief in a personal God that got involved in human affairs. In fact, I don't see much at all where Christianity provides a framework against which all of our thoughts have significance. Maybe you could elaborate?

Ancient Greece and Rome enthusiastically embraced slavery. I don’t have enough time to educate you about the evolution of western civilization from classical antiquity. You can start with Tom Hollands Dominion and come back once you have grasped the basics.

Oh, I see. And the "Bible belt" south didn't?

[b]Try to use some critical thinking[google]. I know it’s hard. The vast majority of societies in human history embraced slavery. Until Christians abolished it.

Interesting advice you have for the PP.

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^European Christians: the first people group in human history to make slavery illegal.

[Anonymous]

So much name calling. Are the atheist haters triggered today?

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Anonymous wrote:Still waiting to hear why OP and others care so much about this random, British guy who is an atheist.

Not OP, but he's got a big mouth and is kinda hard to ignore.

Where do you hear him speaking?

go away, troll

Not a troll. Why don’t you want to answer? Do you subscribe to his newsletter or something?

He's in the news a lot. I know, I know, that requires reading, and maybe that's not your thing.

What’s your news source that covers him?

FoxNews? Bible Beaters Daily?

You're a troll. But to humor you.... that post was addressed to me. And I read the Guardian, NY Times, and others. Happy?

You frequently read about Dawkins in which of those?

Go back under your bridge