3.8 uw private school gpa/odds

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is polluted with a bunch of wildly over-optimistic people. A 3.8 does not look good when 3.9 and 4.0 GPAs are a dime-a-dozen. Anybody that thinks those stats are a lock for fVanderbilt or Chicago or Dartmouth is nuts.

Comparing publics to privates is apples to oranges. Totally different ecosystem, totally different level of access to the top colleges.

Do big name private college counselors like Ivywise have good data on private school gpa thresholds for T20? I would imagine someone does and it’s pretty valuable.

There’s a bit of private HS reputational variation but here’s the general overview:
3.9+ = competitive for T10+
3.8+ = competitive for T11-20/25+
3.7+ = competitive for T25/30+

This is about right for top DC privates. Boundaries are a bit fuzzy of course, but this about captures it.

In DC Privates, many top kids who weren't legacy/athletes/URM in previous years did quite badly (relatively) in ED and then recovered a bit during RD.


+1 for ED
RD will be tricky?

The RD/ED mix of outcomes has been crazy in DC privates fro the last couple of years (except for athletes and, previously, URM)

what do you mean?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is polluted with a bunch of wildly over-optimistic people. A 3.8 does not look good when 3.9 and 4.0 GPAs are a dime-a-dozen. Anybody that thinks those stats are a lock for fVanderbilt or Chicago or Dartmouth is nuts.

Comparing publics to privates is apples to oranges. Totally different ecosystem, totally different level of access to the top colleges.

Do big name private college counselors like Ivywise have good data on private school gpa thresholds for T20? I would imagine someone does and it’s pretty valuable.

There’s a bit of private HS reputational variation but here’s the general overview:
3.9+ = competitive for T10+
3.8+ = competitive for T11-20/25+
3.7+ = competitive for T25/30+

I think this is overly optimistic. It is rare for an UNHOOKED kid with a 3.8 to get into a T20. A kid with a 3.7 is unlikely to get in a T20-T25.

[Anonymous]

^^^Depends on school they are coming from and the rigor…kids with 3.7 GPA at Big 3 are getting into Wash U, Emory and UChicago ED.

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In terms of Wash U vs Emory, Emory appears to be more predictable based on past results. Wash U is working to redefine itself and is less predictable the last few years. The new chancellor is working to make it the "most equitable school" in the world and admissions is making unpredictable decisions. Took mediocre students from some private schools and rejected others from different schools.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^Depends on school they are coming from and the rigor…kids with 3.7 GPA at Big 3 are getting into Wash U, Emory and UChicago ED.

3.8 kids at these schools definitely are getting in to T11-25….

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is polluted with a bunch of wildly over-optimistic people. A 3.8 does not look good when 3.9 and 4.0 GPAs are a dime-a-dozen. Anybody that thinks those stats are a lock for fVanderbilt or Chicago or Dartmouth is nuts.

Comparing publics to privates is apples to oranges. Totally different ecosystem, totally different level of access to the top colleges.

Do big name private college counselors like Ivywise have good data on private school gpa thresholds for T20? I would imagine someone does and it’s pretty valuable.

There’s a bit of private HS reputational variation but here’s the general overview:
3.9+ = competitive for T10+
3.8+ = competitive for T11-20/25+
3.7+ = competitive for T25/30+

I think this is overly optimistic. It is rare for an UNHOOKED kid with a 3.8 to get into a T20. A kid with a 3.7 is unlikely to get in a T20-T25.

Which private hs do you have experience with?

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How did these private school 3.8s fare last week?

Are they also stuck in waitlist city?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Private school doesn't mean your kid has better odds for admission... it can work the other way. Grades can be inflated to appease the parents shelling out tuition money, and colleges want kids that aren't privileged in every way. Good luck to your kid, I just find the private school call out annoying.

The top 3/5/7 local privates have GPA / grade -deflation- in a very consistent way.

Some of the lower ranked privates might have grade inflation, especially the smaller or newer schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How did these private school 3.8s fare last week?

Are they also stuck in waitlist city?

Unhooked 3.8s will are probably on a bunch of T10-T25 waitlists, unless they went ED and got lucky.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Private school doesn't mean your kid has better odds for admission... it can work the other way. Grades can be inflated to appease the parents shelling out tuition money, and colleges want kids that aren't privileged in every way. Good luck to your kid, I just find the private school call out annoying.

The top 3/5/7 local privates have GPA / grade -deflation- in a very consistent way.

Some of the lower ranked privates might have grade inflation, especially the smaller or newer schools.

Yes. In DC at the top privates the greater problem has been grade deflation so students look consistently worse than the 4.0 hordes out of public schools. This forces colleges to engage in a within-school comparison of students that is weird/unfair. It also creates all the wrong dynamics within the school (between students etc).

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Anonymous wrote:Private school doesn't mean your kid has better odds for admission... it can work the other way. Grades can be inflated to appease the parents shelling out tuition money, and colleges want kids that aren't privileged in every way. Good luck to your kid, I just find the private school call out annoying.

The top 3/5/7 local privates have GPA / grade -deflation- in a very consistent way.

Some of the lower ranked privates might have grade inflation, especially the smaller or newer schools.

Yes. In DC at the top privates the greater problem has been grade deflation so students look consistently worse than the 4.0 hordes out of public schools. This forces colleges to engage in a within-school comparison of students that is weird/unfair. It also creates all the wrong dynamics within the school (between students etc).

Yes, so very unfair for these disadvantaged students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^^Depends on school they are coming from and the rigor…kids with 3.7 GPA at Big 3 are getting into Wash U, Emory and UChicago ED.

3.8 kids at these schools definitely are getting in to T11-25….

Only ED.
Not RD from what we are seeing at our private this year. Ok many kids applying to 20+ schools from the class and certain high stats kids didn’t get into their REA reaches so trickle down.

3.8 (private high school) sux for RD. We are struggling.
Advice aim for schools ranked 20-30 or so in ED for best shot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^Depends on school they are coming from and the rigor…kids with 3.7 GPA at Big 3 are getting into Wash U, Emory and UChicago ED.

3.8 kids at these schools definitely are getting in to T11-25….

Only ED.
Not RD from what we are seeing at our private this year. Ok many kids applying to 20+ schools from the class and certain high stats kids didn’t get into their REA reaches so trickle down.

3.8 (private high school) sux for RD. We are struggling.
Advice aim for schools ranked 20-30 or so in ED for best shot.

so what is actually happening? Are their 3.8 kids getting shut out entirely from top 40 schools?
i'm curious as this will be my kid next year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^^Depends on school they are coming from and the rigor…kids with 3.7 GPA at Big 3 are getting into Wash U, Emory and UChicago ED.

3.8 kids at these schools definitely are getting in to T11-25….

Only ED.
Not RD from what we are seeing at our private this year. Ok many kids applying to 20+ schools from the class and certain high stats kids didn’t get into their REA reaches so trickle down.

3.8 (private high school) sux for RD. We are struggling.
Advice aim for schools ranked 20-30 or so in ED for best shot.

so what is actually happening? Are their 3.8 kids getting shut out entirely from top 40 schools?
i'm curious as this will be my kid next year.

Getting into schools like UIUC, Northeastern, Wisconsin, Lehigh, Wake.
Shutout RD anywhere T25.
Some SLACs too. But ranked higher than 20.

It’s brutal. Should have ED2 - NYU; Tufts; BC.
Aim low for ED1 - Even with national awards and pointy ECs.
The kids with 3.9+ are taking the RD spots.
3.8+ is no man’s land. Find schools with limited data in Scoir or naviance bc lots of kids don’t apply there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How did these private school 3.8s fare last week?

Are they also stuck in waitlist city?

Unhooked 3.8s will are probably on a bunch of T10-T25 waitlists, unless they went ED and got lucky.

If they are lucky they are on WL.
Lots of USC rejections.