Leave a “strong” public ES for Catholic?

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Anonymous wrote:You have to make your own choice. But know at Catholic schools, how the school "embraces other religions" is to show how they're inferior but still worthy of studying.

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We would never do Catholic, instead we provide other enriching activities through family vacations, an au pair who takes the kids after school 3 x a week (on trips to museums, or other activities), summer camp experiences and spring break trips to a diff state each year.

Education starts at home, it does not begin in school.

We don't want our children to only think in a linear way.

Seems only one who is thinking "in a linear way" is the PP, who claims they would "never do Catholic" when they clearly know nothing about Catholic schools.

Perhaps I should clarify that no religious schools would be okay for us. You are your child's first teacher, education and learning does not take place in a corporate structure. It takes place at home.

You do you. We like having the reinforcement of religion in the classroom. It actually expands their education beyond a public school experience where religion can never be discussed. Those kids are missing out and getting the type of education that might make THEM think in a linear way. My kids learned about all religions, not just Catholicism. Sadly not allowed in public schools.

Catholic school works great if you're Catholic. Not so much if you aren't.

Catholic school did not work great for the Catholic I know best. (Spouse, who attended a parish ES we refer to around here as Our Lady of Perpetual Agony.)

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Anonymous wrote:You have to make your own choice. But know at Catholic schools, how the school "embraces other religions" is to show how they're inferior but still worthy of studying.

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We would never do Catholic, instead we provide other enriching activities through family vacations, an au pair who takes the kids after school 3 x a week (on trips to museums, or other activities), summer camp experiences and spring break trips to a diff state each year.

Education starts at home, it does not begin in school.

We don't want our children to only think in a linear way.

Seems only one who is thinking "in a linear way" is the PP, who claims they would "never do Catholic" when they clearly know nothing about Catholic schools.

Perhaps I should clarify that no religious schools would be okay for us. You are your child's first teacher, education and learning does not take place in a corporate structure. It takes place at home.

You do you. We like having the reinforcement of religion in the classroom. It actually expands their education beyond a public school experience where religion can never be discussed. Those kids are missing out and getting the type of education that might make THEM think in a linear way. My kids learned about all religions, not just Catholicism. Sadly not allowed in public schools.

Religion can be discussed in public school. One religion can’t be forced or supported over all others.

Name a course in public school that spends the entire time discussing religion, ethics, social justice, or theology. I am not talking about one course in HS, but an ongoing class that occurs every single day. Public schools are missing this very important element of an hour a day to decompress and think about things that really matter. I love that my daughter will have this hour a day for the rest of her education through high school.

Why do ES students need an entire course that focuses solely on those things? If done right those topics are covered across the curriculum in subjects like Social Studies/ History/ English/ Counseling lessons. Then they are placed in context of actual real world or situations of characters that then allows kids to think about them. Then once kids have a foundation they can do a deeper exploration in HS /College / beyond in something ideas/topics.

If you don’t get it, you don’t get it.

Adults who attended catholic school can explain what they learned, how it was presented, and the impact it has had on their life.

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Anonymous wrote:You have to make your own choice. But know at Catholic schools, how the school "embraces other religions" is to show how they're inferior but still worthy of studying.

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We would never do Catholic, instead we provide other enriching activities through family vacations, an au pair who takes the kids after school 3 x a week (on trips to museums, or other activities), summer camp experiences and spring break trips to a diff state each year.

Education starts at home, it does not begin in school.

We don't want our children to only think in a linear way.

Seems only one who is thinking "in a linear way" is the PP, who claims they would "never do Catholic" when they clearly know nothing about Catholic schools.

Perhaps I should clarify that no religious schools would be okay for us. You are your child's first teacher, education and learning does not take place in a corporate structure. It takes place at home.

You do you. We like having the reinforcement of religion in the classroom. It actually expands their education beyond a public school experience where religion can never be discussed. Those kids are missing out and getting the type of education that might make THEM think in a linear way. My kids learned about all religions, not just Catholicism. Sadly not allowed in public schools.

Catholic school works great if you're Catholic. Not so much if you aren't.

Catholic school did not work great for the Catholic I know best. (Spouse, who attended a parish ES we refer to around here as Our Lady of Perpetual Agony.)

What was the highest level of education, current job title, and salary?

I don’t know anyone from my catholic elementary school class who didn’t go onto grad school. Everyone is doing well.

If you meant to say catholic school is challenging and not warm and fuzzy, I agree. I think that’s why we succeed: because they push us to.

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Anonymous wrote:As am MCPS teacher the past 20 years, I will say: If you can afford private, so private. Many teachers have their kids in private school (if they are not in magnet or special programs).

Yes, I have heard this over and over from MCPS teachers who send their kids to Catholic or other private schools. If anyone has the inside look at the disaster that is MCPS, it is the teachers.

But that's private schools parents and right wingers propaganda. Very, very few MCPS teachers have kids in private schools.

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Anonymous wrote:As am MCPS teacher the past 20 years, I will say: If you can afford private, so private. Many teachers have their kids in private school (if they are not in magnet or special programs).

BS

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Anonymous wrote:You have to make your own choice. But know at Catholic schools, how the school "embraces other religions" is to show how they're inferior but still worthy of studying.

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We would never do Catholic, instead we provide other enriching activities through family vacations, an au pair who takes the kids after school 3 x a week (on trips to museums, or other activities), summer camp experiences and spring break trips to a diff state each year.

Education starts at home, it does not begin in school.

We don't want our children to only think in a linear way.

Seems only one who is thinking "in a linear way" is the PP, who claims they would "never do Catholic" when they clearly know nothing about Catholic schools.

Perhaps I should clarify that no religious schools would be okay for us. You are your child's first teacher, education and learning does not take place in a corporate structure. It takes place at home.

You do you. We like having the reinforcement of religion in the classroom. It actually expands their education beyond a public school experience where religion can never be discussed. Those kids are missing out and getting the type of education that might make THEM think in a linear way. My kids learned about all religions, not just Catholicism. Sadly not allowed in public schools.

Catholic school works great if you're Catholic. Not so much if you aren't.

Catholic school did not work great for the Catholic I know best. (Spouse, who attended a parish ES we refer to around here as Our Lady of Perpetual Agony.)

What was the highest level of education, current job title, and salary?

I don’t know anyone from my catholic elementary school class who didn’t go onto grad school. Everyone is doing well.

If you meant to say catholic school is challenging and not warm and fuzzy, I agree. I think that’s why we succeed: because they push us to.

Different pp, one of my neighborhood friends who attended Catholic schools got hooked on drugs, was probably abused (now that I know the signs), and tried to kill her sibling. Fortunately didn't succeed and got her life straightened out, but didn't graduate from college.

I would stay public.

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Anonymous wrote:You have to make your own choice. But know at Catholic schools, how the school "embraces other religions" is to show how they're inferior but still worthy of studying.

+100

We would never do Catholic, instead we provide other enriching activities through family vacations, an au pair who takes the kids after school 3 x a week (on trips to museums, or other activities), summer camp experiences and spring break trips to a diff state each year.

Education starts at home, it does not begin in school.

We don't want our children to only think in a linear way.

Seems only one who is thinking "in a linear way" is the PP, who claims they would "never do Catholic" when they clearly know nothing about Catholic schools.

Perhaps I should clarify that no religious schools would be okay for us. You are your child's first teacher, education and learning does not take place in a corporate structure. It takes place at home.

You do you. We like having the reinforcement of religion in the classroom. It actually expands their education beyond a public school experience where religion can never be discussed. Those kids are missing out and getting the type of education that might make THEM think in a linear way. My kids learned about all religions, not just Catholicism. Sadly not allowed in public schools.

Religion can be discussed in public school. One religion can’t be forced or supported over all others.

Name a course in public school that spends the entire time discussing religion, ethics, social justice, or theology. I am not talking about one course in HS, but an ongoing class that occurs every single day. Public schools are missing this very important element of an hour a day to decompress and think about things that really matter. I love that my daughter will have this hour a day for the rest of her education through high school.

You mean brainwashing…

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Anonymous wrote:You have to make your own choice. But know at Catholic schools, how the school "embraces other religions" is to show how they're inferior but still worthy of studying.

+100

We would never do Catholic, instead we provide other enriching activities through family vacations, an au pair who takes the kids after school 3 x a week (on trips to museums, or other activities), summer camp experiences and spring break trips to a diff state each year.

Education starts at home, it does not begin in school.

We don't want our children to only think in a linear way.

Seems only one who is thinking "in a linear way" is the PP, who claims they would "never do Catholic" when they clearly know nothing about Catholic schools.

Perhaps I should clarify that no religious schools would be okay for us. You are your child's first teacher, education and learning does not take place in a corporate structure. It takes place at home.

You do you. We like having the reinforcement of religion in the classroom. It actually expands their education beyond a public school experience where religion can never be discussed. Those kids are missing out and getting the type of education that might make THEM think in a linear way. My kids learned about all religions, not just Catholicism. Sadly not allowed in public schools.

Religion can be discussed in public school. One religion can’t be forced or supported over all others.

Name a course in public school that spends the entire time discussing religion, ethics, social justice, or theology. I am not talking about one course in HS, but an ongoing class that occurs every single day. Public schools are missing this very important element of an hour a day to decompress and think about things that really matter. I love that my daughter will have this hour a day for the rest of her education through high school.

Why do ES students need an entire course that focuses solely on those things? If done right those topics are covered across the curriculum in subjects like Social Studies/ History/ English/ Counseling lessons. Then they are placed in context of actual real world or situations of characters that then allows kids to think about them. Then once kids have a foundation they can do a deeper exploration in HS /College / beyond in something ideas/topics.

If you don’t get it, you don’t get it.

Adults who attended catholic school can explain what they learned, how it was presented, and the impact it has had on their life.

yes. so many lapsed catholics.

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Anonymous wrote:By moving this thread here from the private school forum, you will just get confirmation bias. People in public school will always disparage Catholic schools because they don't know anything about it. There are many parents in the private school forum who can actually give you a credible comparison. They can't do that here.

Why would you assume that folks in the public school forum have no experience with Catholic school? There are likely plenty of people who have kids in both, had kids in Catholic at one time for another, or themselves went to Catholic school and choose something different for their kids.

Further, why do you assume the private school forum wouldn’t give confirmation bias?

[Anonymous]

As a lapsed Catholic, I encourage you to think about what Catholic school will teach your child about unquestioning adherence to tradition and authority, even in the face of glaring irrationality. There are, of course, benefits to learning this—for example, people raised in this way generally have the ability to fall in line when they have to.

But on the downside, kids raised to follow authority unquestioningly are susceptible to abuse, especially in an environment where so many adults are forbidden to get marrried or have sex (*gestures broadly to the Catholic church*). Kids raised in this way also may grow up to be the people who cling tenaciously to doing things a certain way just because that's how it's always been done, even when proven to be inefficient or otherwise outdated. For example, women are still not allowed to be priests in the Catholic church, and kids are taught to just accept that.

My personal view is that I want my child to learn to think critically, question traditions, and pursue evidence-based ways of doing things. Catholic education is not particularly well-suited to teaching kids to do these things.

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Anonymous wrote:You have to make your own choice. But know at Catholic schools, how the school "embraces other religions" is to show how they're inferior but still worthy of studying.

+100

We would never do Catholic, instead we provide other enriching activities through family vacations, an au pair who takes the kids after school 3 x a week (on trips to museums, or other activities), summer camp experiences and spring break trips to a diff state each year.

Education starts at home, it does not begin in school.

We don't want our children to only think in a linear way.

Seems only one who is thinking "in a linear way" is the PP, who claims they would "never do Catholic" when they clearly know nothing about Catholic schools.

Perhaps I should clarify that no religious schools would be okay for us. You are your child's first teacher, education and learning does not take place in a corporate structure. It takes place at home.

You do you. We like having the reinforcement of religion in the classroom. It actually expands their education beyond a public school experience where religion can never be discussed. Those kids are missing out and getting the type of education that might make THEM think in a linear way. My kids learned about all religions, not just Catholicism. Sadly not allowed in public schools.

Religion can be discussed in public school. One religion can’t be forced or supported over all others.

Name a course in public school that spends the entire time discussing religion, ethics, social justice, or theology. I am not talking about one course in HS, but an ongoing class that occurs every single day. Public schools are missing this very important element of an hour a day to decompress and think about things that really matter. I love that my daughter will have this hour a day for the rest of her education through high school.

Why do ES students need an entire course that focuses solely on those things? If done right those topics are covered across the curriculum in subjects like Social Studies/ History/ English/ Counseling lessons. Then they are placed in context of actual real world or situations of characters that then allows kids to think about them. Then once kids have a foundation they can do a deeper exploration in HS /College / beyond in something ideas/topics.

If you don’t get it, you don’t get it.

Adults who attended catholic school can explain what they learned, how it was presented, and the impact it has had on their life.

yes. so many lapsed catholics.

True. My kids can definitely explain how going to a parochial school turned them off from the church (probably for life).

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Anonymous wrote:As am MCPS teacher the past 20 years, I will say: If you can afford private, so private. Many teachers have their kids in private school (if they are not in magnet or special programs).

OP here. Please tell me more

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Anonymous wrote:You have to make your own choice. But know at Catholic schools, how the school "embraces other religions" is to show how they're inferior but still worthy of studying.

+100

We would never do Catholic, instead we provide other enriching activities through family vacations, an au pair who takes the kids after school 3 x a week (on trips to museums, or other activities), summer camp experiences and spring break trips to a diff state each year.

Education starts at home, it does not begin in school.

We don't want our children to only think in a linear way.

Seems only one who is thinking "in a linear way" is the PP, who claims they would "never do Catholic" when they clearly know nothing about Catholic schools.

Perhaps I should clarify that no religious schools would be okay for us. You are your child's first teacher, education and learning does not take place in a corporate structure. It takes place at home.

You do you. We like having the reinforcement of religion in the classroom. It actually expands their education beyond a public school experience where religion can never be discussed. Those kids are missing out and getting the type of education that might make THEM think in a linear way. My kids learned about all religions, not just Catholicism. Sadly not allowed in public schools.

Religion can be discussed in public school. One religion can’t be forced or supported over all others.

Name a course in public school that spends the entire time discussing religion, ethics, social justice, or theology. I am not talking about one course in HS, but an ongoing class that occurs every single day. Public schools are missing this very important element of an hour a day to decompress and think about things that really matter. I love that my daughter will have this hour a day for the rest of her education through high school.

Why do ES students need an entire course that focuses solely on those things? If done right those topics are covered across the curriculum in subjects like Social Studies/ History/ English/ Counseling lessons. Then they are placed in context of actual real world or situations of characters that then allows kids to think about them. Then once kids have a foundation they can do a deeper exploration in HS /College / beyond in something ideas/topics.

If you don’t get it, you don’t get it.

Adults who attended catholic school can explain what they learned, how it was presented, and the impact it has had on their life.

yes. so many lapsed catholics.

True. My kids can definitely explain how going to a parochial school turned them off from the church (probably for life).

Huh, and my experience with failing public schools turned me off for life. Both my husband and I attended public schools and only send our kids to Catholic schools.

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Anonymous wrote:We can afford the 9K tuition (with FA) but it’s still extra money we could save if we do public. However, we see so many academic benefits from Catholic in addition to the lovely close knit community, smaller teacher/student ratio and how the school embraces other religions (despite teaching from the Catholic perspective of course). Public would be considered by many a “strong” one but class sizes are in the large side. Feeling “guilty” about oaring tuition while having a “good” public in neighborhood..but is it “good” for real…

What are the benefits again?

You and your kids get to be around financially similarly situated families at private schools. It’s like at Costco…a members only club.

This doesn't hold true for catholics (which tend to give alot of scholarships) and the lesser privates.
Also, as a former private school student I can tell you that the access to drugs and alcohol was so much freer at private.

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Anonymous wrote:You have to make your own choice. But know at Catholic schools, how the school "embraces other religions" is to show how they're inferior but still worthy of studying.

+100

We would never do Catholic, instead we provide other enriching activities through family vacations, an au pair who takes the kids after school 3 x a week (on trips to museums, or other activities), summer camp experiences and spring break trips to a diff state each year.

Education starts at home, it does not begin in school.

We don't want our children to only think in a linear way.

Seems only one who is thinking "in a linear way" is the PP, who claims they would "never do Catholic" when they clearly know nothing about Catholic schools.

Perhaps I should clarify that no religious schools would be okay for us. You are your child's first teacher, education and learning does not take place in a corporate structure. It takes place at home.

You do you. We like having the reinforcement of religion in the classroom. It actually expands their education beyond a public school experience where religion can never be discussed. Those kids are missing out and getting the type of education that might make THEM think in a linear way. My kids learned about all religions, not just Catholicism. Sadly not allowed in public schools.

Religion can be discussed in public school. One religion can’t be forced or supported over all others.

Name a course in public school that spends the entire time discussing religion, ethics, social justice, or theology. I am not talking about one course in HS, but an ongoing class that occurs every single day. Public schools are missing this very important element of an hour a day to decompress and think about things that really matter. I love that my daughter will have this hour a day for the rest of her education through high school.

Why do ES students need an entire course that focuses solely on those things? If done right those topics are covered across the curriculum in subjects like Social Studies/ History/ English/ Counseling lessons. Then they are placed in context of actual real world or situations of characters that then allows kids to think about them. Then once kids have a foundation they can do a deeper exploration in HS /College / beyond in something ideas/topics.

If you don’t get it, you don’t get it.

Adults who attended catholic school can explain what they learned, how it was presented, and the impact it has had on their life.

yes. so many lapsed catholics.

True. My kids can definitely explain how going to a parochial school turned them off from the church (probably for life).

Huh, and my experience with failing public schools turned me off for life. Both my husband and I attended public schools and only send our kids to Catholic schools.

OP’s choice is not Catholic or a “failing public.” It is Catholic or a “strong public.” -DP