Student rated as among top 600 tennis players, what are admission chances at a top 30 school?

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Div 3 schools I thought were mostly smaller. The bigger ones as someone suggested: MIT, U of Chicago, Johns Hopkins, Caltech, Carnegie Mellon, Emory, and WashU seem to be very intensive acadamically. I dont know about Emory and Wash U but others I heard are among the toughest as far as rigor is concerned. Child is not that tippy top in math and finding Calc AB a bit challenging.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Child is 11th grade (Junior) not sophomore. I grew up where we are not used to freshman/sophomore/junior... nomenclature. We just used 10th, 11th, etc. So whatever rating he would get in the next 9-10 months would be what he applies with.

So, it looks like tennis would be an extracurricular to write about but not going to help with recruiting.

What would you suggest the child focus on this summer? Plan had been to intensely prepare for tennis and compete in lot of tournaments to get a higher ranking.

Should he focus on something else in summer to help with admissions? Like research or some other activity?

Child wants to go to a larger university and not interested in SLAC's.

If you have the resources to pay for this much tennis, I would hire a college counselor and ask them for advice. It will be much more tailored than what you will get here. Good luck!!!

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Anonymous wrote:It’s highly likely that - without massive improvement- this kid will be ranked more than 1000 in 1.5 years.

More likely he'll go up. A lot of kids drop out of tennis during high school.

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Anonymous wrote:I knew a u Chicago swim recruit who was ranked.

He was also full pay from an affluent family in one of the most affluent areas in the country. For u Chicago, swimming rank was just an excuse to let in a full pay student.

Do you know how silly a statement this is?

Swimmers are recruited exclusively on their times. He had the times necessary and the stats required, so he was admitted.

You think the swim coach who used a tip for him cares about his need for aid?

Agree. University of Chicago is need-blind. The school would have found financial aid for him if he'd needed it. I know a tennis player who got into a very good LAC with academic stats that were well below the 25th percentile and whose family could not have afforded to send them to a public university. They got a full ride (yes, of course D3 schools don't offer athletic scholarships, wink, wink).

Do you have a cite for this? Can you name the school? What is your definition of a full ride? If the family could not have afforded a public university, then there is a strong chance that the kid received robust FA as well as merit (such use of merit @ D3s is not new, not at all). But I seriously doubt, based on working in college business/FA offices years ago (but still appears to be quite relevant based on chatter on this board), that the kid received a full ride.

I'm not going to out the kid by naming the school, but it's a liberal arts college ranked in the top 40 (US News). The coach told the parents that the college allocated a set amount to help kids recruited to the team.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Child is 11th grade (Junior) not sophomore. I grew up where we are not used to freshman/sophomore/junior... nomenclature. We just used 10th, 11th, etc. So whatever rating he would get in the next 9-10 months would be what he applies with.

So, it looks like tennis would be an extracurricular to write about but not going to help with recruiting.

What would you suggest the child focus on this summer? Plan had been to intensely prepare for tennis and compete in lot of tournaments to get a higher ranking.

Should he focus on something else in summer to help with admissions? Like research or some other activity?

Child wants to go to a larger university and not interested in SLAC's.

If you have the resources to pay for this much tennis, I would hire a college counselor and ask them for advice. It will be much more tailored than what you will get here. Good luck!!!

We tried one but did not get any helpful advice in this regard that we can actually use. Helpful with course selection and test prep.

Main question is should he go flat out just on tennis knowing that top 200 is unlikely. Or does it make sense to dial tennis down a bit to do something else in addition like research or other summer programs.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Child is 11th grade (Junior) not sophomore. I grew up where we are not used to freshman/sophomore/junior... nomenclature. We just used 10th, 11th, etc. So whatever rating he would get in the next 9-10 months would be what he applies with.

So, it looks like tennis would be an extracurricular to write about but not going to help with recruiting.

What would you suggest the child focus on this summer? Plan had been to intensely prepare for tennis and compete in lot of tournaments to get a higher ranking.

Should he focus on something else in summer to help with admissions? Like research or some other activity?

Child wants to go to a larger university and not interested in SLAC's.

If you have the resources to pay for this much tennis, I would hire a college counselor and ask them for advice. It will be much more tailored than what you will get here. Good luck!!!

We tried one but did not get any helpful advice in this regard that we can actually use. Helpful with course selection and test prep.

Main question is should he go flat out just on tennis knowing that top 200 is unlikely. Or does it make sense to dial tennis down a bit to do something else in addition like research or other summer programs.

honestly, he should keep doing what he enjoys and focus on his grades. He doens't need any special research etc since he is not interested in STEM. Tennis will not help him get into a school but there's no reason why he should stop doing something he enjoys. Also, if he's a second semester junior, its basically too late to be recruited to play anywhere that would be a large state u, which you have said he's looking for.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Child is 11th grade (Junior) not sophomore. I grew up where we are not used to freshman/sophomore/junior... nomenclature. We just used 10th, 11th, etc. So whatever rating he would get in the next 9-10 months would be what he applies with.

So, it looks like tennis would be an extracurricular to write about but not going to help with recruiting.

What would you suggest the child focus on this summer? Plan had been to intensely prepare for tennis and compete in lot of tournaments to get a higher ranking.

Should he focus on something else in summer to help with admissions? Like research or some other activity?

Child wants to go to a larger university and not interested in SLAC's.

If you have the resources to pay for this much tennis, I would hire a college counselor and ask them for advice. It will be much more tailored than what you will get here. Good luck!!!

We tried one but did not get any helpful advice in this regard that we can actually use. Helpful with course selection and test prep.

Main question is should he go flat out just on tennis knowing that top 200 is unlikely. Or does it make sense to dial tennis down a bit to do something else in addition like research or other summer programs.

honestly, he should keep doing what he enjoys and focus on his grades. He doens't need any special research etc since he is not interested in STEM. Tennis will not help him get into a school but there's no reason why he should stop doing something he enjoys. Also, if he's a second semester junior, its basically too late to be recruited to play anywhere that would be a large state u, which you have said he's looking for.

Thank you.

I am clueless and it is probably apparent from my posts. I thought we would have until end of this 2024 summer for tennis recruiting. He would be graduating HS in June 2025 and attending college in Aug 2025.

Is recruiting done so far in advance? So any improvement in ranking this summer would not be of any use?

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Child is 11th grade (Junior) not sophomore. I grew up where we are not used to freshman/sophomore/junior... nomenclature. We just used 10th, 11th, etc. So whatever rating he would get in the next 9-10 months would be what he applies with.

So, it looks like tennis would be an extracurricular to write about but not going to help with recruiting.

What would you suggest the child focus on this summer? Plan had been to intensely prepare for tennis and compete in lot of tournaments to get a higher ranking.

Should he focus on something else in summer to help with admissions? Like research or some other activity?

Child wants to go to a larger university and not interested in SLAC's.

If you have the resources to pay for this much tennis, I would hire a college counselor and ask them for advice. It will be much more tailored than what you will get here. Good luck!!!

We tried one but did not get any helpful advice in this regard that we can actually use. Helpful with course selection and test prep.

Main question is should he go flat out just on tennis knowing that top 200 is unlikely. Or does it make sense to dial tennis down a bit to do something else in addition like research or other summer programs.

honestly, he should keep doing what he enjoys and focus on his grades. He doens't need any special research etc since he is not interested in STEM. Tennis will not help him get into a school but there's no reason why he should stop doing something he enjoys. Also, if he's a second semester junior, its basically too late to be recruited to play anywhere that would be a large state u, which you have said he's looking for.

Thank you.

I am clueless and it is probably apparent from my posts. I thought we would have until end of this 2024 summer for tennis recruiting. He would be graduating HS in June 2025 and attending college in Aug 2025.

Is recruiting done so far in advance? So any improvement in ranking this summer would not be of any use?

+1 With only 6 to 9 months to go it is highly unlikely you would improve several hundred ranking spots to get to the point where you will be recruited by the bigger high academic schools. I know plenty of kids whose family went all in, moved to Florida for a big name tennis academy, online schooling, spent tons of money but yet they improved very little and some actually regressed. The main reason is mental. There is enormous pressure placed on you when your family invest that much money in you and the expectations are huge. Once you lose that first match, negative thoughts starts. Of course there are those who made it but usually they start much earlier over multiple years. It’s highly risky. I would play high school tennis enjoy the rest of high school, work on your ECs, essays over the Summer and let the chips fall where they may.

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My son will have almost the exact same stats. We have been told our son should be able to play tennis in college but not as a recruited athlete. My son’s dream school is Penn and his tennis will NOT get him there. He should be able to play at a D3 not top 20 college. We will pick the better college.

Another Asian American parent of a very good tennis player. I have asked a similar question and was basically told it will barely help DS.

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What is his UTR? I have heard you need to be a 12 or ranked top 100 to be recruited.

My son is a freshman and 14 and a 8. He will likely be a 10 and not be good enough to be recruited.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Child is 11th grade (Junior) not sophomore. I grew up where we are not used to freshman/sophomore/junior... nomenclature. We just used 10th, 11th, etc. So whatever rating he would get in the next 9-10 months would be what he applies with.

So, it looks like tennis would be an extracurricular to write about but not going to help with recruiting.

What would you suggest the child focus on this summer? Plan had been to intensely prepare for tennis and compete in lot of tournaments to get a higher ranking.

Should he focus on something else in summer to help with admissions? Like research or some other activity?

Child wants to go to a larger university and not interested in SLAC's.

If you have the resources to pay for this much tennis, I would hire a college counselor and ask them for advice. It will be much more tailored than what you will get here. Good luck!!!

We tried one but did not get any helpful advice in this regard that we can actually use. Helpful with course selection and test prep.

Main question is should he go flat out just on tennis knowing that top 200 is unlikely. Or does it make sense to dial tennis down a bit to do something else in addition like research or other summer programs.

honestly, he should keep doing what he enjoys and focus on his grades. He doens't need any special research etc since he is not interested in STEM. Tennis will not help him get into a school but there's no reason why he should stop doing something he enjoys. Also, if he's a second semester junior, its basically too late to be recruited to play anywhere that would be a large state u, which you have said he's looking for.

Thank you.

I am clueless and it is probably apparent from my posts. I thought we would have until end of this 2024 summer for tennis recruiting. He would be graduating HS in June 2025 and attending college in Aug 2025.

Is recruiting done so far in advance? So any improvement in ranking this summer would not be of any use?

My DS was receiving interest from D2 and D3 schools his junior year. He did nothing to attract that attention other than sign up for tennisrecruiting.net. He had no interest in those schools which were academically not fits so he focused on high school tennis and maintaining good grades etc. He plays club tennis at a top state u but it was even hard for him to make club and he’s not on the travel team.

Tennis players are somewhat of a dime a dozen and again with your DS being in the top 600, there are a lot of kids better than him for a VERY limited amount of slots.