How to get teens to work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You stop providing things for them that are not the basics and they’ll get a job.

At the expense of time to study? Time in ECs? Volunteer work?

Are you going to be a happier parent when your 16 year old can't come to Thanksgiving dinner at Aunt Carol's because they have to put in their 4 hour shift at Giant?

A job is an EC activity. It’s extra to curricular activity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You stop providing things for them that are not the basics and they’ll get a job.

At the expense of time to study? Time in ECs? Volunteer work?

Are you going to be a happier parent when your 16 year old can't come to Thanksgiving dinner at Aunt Carol's because they have to put in their 4 hour shift at Giant?

A job is an EC activity. It’s extra to curricular activity.

Ok fine.
At the expense of time to study? Playing a sport? Playing a musical instrument/singing? Performing in a school theater production? Taking part in a robotics competition?

How happy will you be when your 16 year old has to miss out on family events like birthday parties, Thanksgiving at relative's house, etc. because they have to work weekends/evenings/holidays?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You stop providing things for them that are not the basics and they’ll get a job.

At the expense of time to study? Time in ECs? Volunteer work?

Are you going to be a happier parent when your 16 year old can't come to Thanksgiving dinner at Aunt Carol's because they have to put in their 4 hour shift at Giant?

A job is an EC activity. It’s extra to curricular activity.

Ok fine.
At the expense of time to study? Playing a sport? Playing a musical instrument/singing? Performing in a school theater production? Taking part in a robotics competition?

How happy will you be when your 16 year old has to miss out on family events like birthday parties, Thanksgiving at relative's house, etc. because they have to work weekends/evenings/holidays?

My daughter has 2 jobs and has never missed an important family event due to them. She also takes Taekwondo and is in Marching band and is a 4.0 UW GPA student.

Time management matters. That’s why people are saying it’s a good thing. It’s not at the expense of other things, it’s a valuable activity in its own right. I’m not saying all kids have to have a job. I’m just saying that a job can be rewarding in more ways than earning a paycheck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My teen is dying to work and had a lot of trouble getting a job. He submitted dozens of online applications and heard back from almost no one. Maybe this os because he had nothing to put but volunteer gigs in the “previous experience”? Anyway, I keep hearing abt all the jobs going infilled but my teen got almost no response. (And these were definitely teen appropriate jobs-he wasn’t shooting high or anything.)

He should just walking into places that have now hiring signs and offer to start right away, like that minute.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My teen is dying to work and had a lot of trouble getting a job. He submitted dozens of online applications and heard back from almost no one. Maybe this os because he had nothing to put but volunteer gigs in the “previous experience”? Anyway, I keep hearing abt all the jobs going infilled but my teen got almost no response. (And these were definitely teen appropriate jobs-he wasn’t shooting high or anything.)

He should just walking into places that have now hiring signs and offer to start right away, like that minute.

Read the entire thread. Multiple posters have confirmed that this doesn't work. The hiring manager just tells you to apply online.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You stop providing things for them that are not the basics and they’ll get a job.

At the expense of time to study? Time in ECs? Volunteer work?

Are you going to be a happier parent when your 16 year old can't come to Thanksgiving dinner at Aunt Carol's because they have to put in their 4 hour shift at Giant?

A job is an EC activity. It’s extra to curricular activity.

Ok fine.
At the expense of time to study? Playing a sport? Playing a musical instrument/singing? Performing in a school theater production? Taking part in a robotics competition?

How happy will you be when your 16 year old has to miss out on family events like birthday parties, Thanksgiving at relative's house, etc. because they have to work weekends/evenings/holidays?

My daughter has 2 jobs and has never missed an important family event due to them. She also takes Taekwondo and is in Marching band and is a 4.0 UW GPA student.

Time management matters. That’s why people are saying it’s a good thing. It’s not at the expense of other things, it’s a valuable activity in its own right. I’m not saying all kids have to have a job. I’m just saying that a job can be rewarding in more ways than earning a paycheck.

"Time management" has nothing to do with it if your work schedules you to work noon-4 pm on Thanksgiving and the entire family has dinner at 5 at Aunt Carol's in Scranton.
Maybe your kid's workplace wasn't open on Thanksgiving, but many of the examples given here (like grocery stores) definitely are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My teen is dying to work and had a lot of trouble getting a job. He submitted dozens of online applications and heard back from almost no one. Maybe this os because he had nothing to put but volunteer gigs in the “previous experience”? Anyway, I keep hearing abt all the jobs going infilled but my teen got almost no response. (And these were definitely teen appropriate jobs-he wasn’t shooting high or anything.)

He should just walking into places that have now hiring signs and offer to start right away, like that minute.

I already responded to your post but also wanted to address this point.

You aren't going to be able to start "that minute." There is a hiring process. Background checks. Drug screening. TB testing if working with food. Training.
Some jobs will require specific attire like non-slip shoes (my kid who worked in fast food was required to have) or steel toed shoes if working in other places.
The onboarding process can take weeks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You stop providing things for them that are not the basics and they’ll get a job.

At the expense of time to study? Time in ECs? Volunteer work?

Are you going to be a happier parent when your 16 year old can't come to Thanksgiving dinner at Aunt Carol's because they have to put in their 4 hour shift at Giant?

A job is an EC activity. It’s extra to curricular activity.

Ok fine.
At the expense of time to study? Playing a sport? Playing a musical instrument/singing? Performing in a school theater production? Taking part in a robotics competition?

How happy will you be when your 16 year old has to miss out on family events like birthday parties, Thanksgiving at relative's house, etc. because they have to work weekends/evenings/holidays?

My daughter has 2 jobs and has never missed an important family event due to them. She also takes Taekwondo and is in Marching band and is a 4.0 UW GPA student.

Time management matters. That’s why people are saying it’s a good thing. It’s not at the expense of other things, it’s a valuable activity in its own right. I’m not saying all kids have to have a job. I’m just saying that a job can be rewarding in more ways than earning a paycheck.

"Time management" has nothing to do with it if your work schedules you to work noon-4 pm on Thanksgiving and the entire family has dinner at 5 at Aunt Carol's in Scranton.
Maybe your kid's workplace wasn't open on Thanksgiving, but many of the examples given here (like grocery stores) definitely are.

Okay. You need to stop with this very specific example. Most people don’t work on thanksgiving and kids can actually request off and they can quit if it’s an issue. You’re making an example of like one day out of 365 days. And if my kid had to work on thanksgiving I’d not be angry about it.

In the unlikely scenario that I have to go to Scranton on thanksgiving a 5PM and my child is scheduled to work at Giant that weekend, I will deal with that bridge when I come to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You stop providing things for them that are not the basics and they’ll get a job.

At the expense of time to study? Time in ECs? Volunteer work?

Are you going to be a happier parent when your 16 year old can't come to Thanksgiving dinner at Aunt Carol's because they have to put in their 4 hour shift at Giant?

A job is an EC activity. It’s extra to curricular activity.

Ok fine.
At the expense of time to study? Playing a sport? Playing a musical instrument/singing? Performing in a school theater production? Taking part in a robotics competition?

How happy will you be when your 16 year old has to miss out on family events like birthday parties, Thanksgiving at relative's house, etc. because they have to work weekends/evenings/holidays?

My daughter has 2 jobs and has never missed an important family event due to them. She also takes Taekwondo and is in Marching band and is a 4.0 UW GPA student.

Time management matters. That’s why people are saying it’s a good thing. It’s not at the expense of other things, it’s a valuable activity in its own right. I’m not saying all kids have to have a job. I’m just saying that a job can be rewarding in more ways than earning a paycheck.

"Time management" has nothing to do with it if your work schedules you to work noon-4 pm on Thanksgiving and the entire family has dinner at 5 at Aunt Carol's in Scranton.
Maybe your kid's workplace wasn't open on Thanksgiving, but many of the examples given here (like grocery stores) definitely are.

Okay. You need to stop with this very specific example. Most people don’t work on thanksgiving and kids can actually request off and they can quit if it’s an issue. You’re making an example of like one day out of 365 days. And if my kid had to work on thanksgiving I’d not be angry about it.

In the unlikely scenario that I have to go to Scranton on thanksgiving a 5PM and my child is scheduled to work at Giant that weekend, I will deal with that bridge when I come to it.

And, FWIW, I can’t count the number of family events my family members have missed due to some swim tournament or practice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You stop providing things for them that are not the basics and they’ll get a job.

At the expense of time to study? Time in ECs? Volunteer work?

Are you going to be a happier parent when your 16 year old can't come to Thanksgiving dinner at Aunt Carol's because they have to put in their 4 hour shift at Giant?

A job is an EC activity. It’s extra to curricular activity.

Ok fine.
At the expense of time to study? Playing a sport? Playing a musical instrument/singing? Performing in a school theater production? Taking part in a robotics competition?

How happy will you be when your 16 year old has to miss out on family events like birthday parties, Thanksgiving at relative's house, etc. because they have to work weekends/evenings/holidays?

My daughter has 2 jobs and has never missed an important family event due to them. She also takes Taekwondo and is in Marching band and is a 4.0 UW GPA student.

Time management matters. That’s why people are saying it’s a good thing. It’s not at the expense of other things, it’s a valuable activity in its own right. I’m not saying all kids have to have a job. I’m just saying that a job can be rewarding in more ways than earning a paycheck.

"Time management" has nothing to do with it if your work schedules you to work noon-4 pm on Thanksgiving and the entire family has dinner at 5 at Aunt Carol's in Scranton.
Maybe your kid's workplace wasn't open on Thanksgiving, but many of the examples given here (like grocery stores) definitely are.

Very much this. If PP's kid doesn't have those constraints but works the kind of job that otherwise requires nights/weekends/holidays, she's getting princess treatment for some reason & her coworkers resent her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You stop providing things for them that are not the basics and they’ll get a job.

At the expense of time to study? Time in ECs? Volunteer work?

Are you going to be a happier parent when your 16 year old can't come to Thanksgiving dinner at Aunt Carol's because they have to put in their 4 hour shift at Giant?

A job is an EC activity. It’s extra to curricular activity.

Ok fine.
At the expense of time to study? Playing a sport? Playing a musical instrument/singing? Performing in a school theater production? Taking part in a robotics competition?

How happy will you be when your 16 year old has to miss out on family events like birthday parties, Thanksgiving at relative's house, etc. because they have to work weekends/evenings/holidays?

My daughter has 2 jobs and has never missed an important family event due to them. She also takes Taekwondo and is in Marching band and is a 4.0 UW GPA student.

Time management matters. That’s why people are saying it’s a good thing. It’s not at the expense of other things, it’s a valuable activity in its own right. I’m not saying all kids have to have a job. I’m just saying that a job can be rewarding in more ways than earning a paycheck.

"Time management" has nothing to do with it if your work schedules you to work noon-4 pm on Thanksgiving and the entire family has dinner at 5 at Aunt Carol's in Scranton.
Maybe your kid's workplace wasn't open on Thanksgiving, but many of the examples given here (like grocery stores) definitely are.

Okay. You need to stop with this very specific example. Most people don’t work on thanksgiving and kids can actually request off and they can quit if it’s an issue. You’re making an example of like one day out of 365 days. And if my kid had to work on thanksgiving I’d not be angry about it.

In the unlikely scenario that I have to go to Scranton on thanksgiving a 5PM and my child is scheduled to work at Giant that weekend, I will deal with that bridge when I come to it.

You need to stop thinking you can tell me what to do. Your daughter's situation is also a "very specific example" yet you keep bringing it up.

It's not just "one day"--most families have multiple special days, holidays, an occasions that are harder to accommodate when you work low level service jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You stop providing things for them that are not the basics and they’ll get a job.

At the expense of time to study? Time in ECs? Volunteer work?

Are you going to be a happier parent when your 16 year old can't come to Thanksgiving dinner at Aunt Carol's because they have to put in their 4 hour shift at Giant?

A job is an EC activity. It’s extra to curricular activity.

Ok fine.
At the expense of time to study? Playing a sport? Playing a musical instrument/singing? Performing in a school theater production? Taking part in a robotics competition?

How happy will you be when your 16 year old has to miss out on family events like birthday parties, Thanksgiving at relative's house, etc. because they have to work weekends/evenings/holidays?

My daughter has 2 jobs and has never missed an important family event due to them. She also takes Taekwondo and is in Marching band and is a 4.0 UW GPA student.

Time management matters. That’s why people are saying it’s a good thing. It’s not at the expense of other things, it’s a valuable activity in its own right. I’m not saying all kids have to have a job. I’m just saying that a job can be rewarding in more ways than earning a paycheck.

"Time management" has nothing to do with it if your work schedules you to work noon-4 pm on Thanksgiving and the entire family has dinner at 5 at Aunt Carol's in Scranton.
Maybe your kid's workplace wasn't open on Thanksgiving, but many of the examples given here (like grocery stores) definitely are.

Very much this. If PP's kid doesn't have those constraints but works the kind of job that otherwise requires nights/weekends/holidays, she's getting princess treatment for some reason & her coworkers resent her.

Exactly. Maybe pp's best friend is the manager?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You stop providing things for them that are not the basics and they’ll get a job.

At the expense of time to study? Time in ECs? Volunteer work?

Are you going to be a happier parent when your 16 year old can't come to Thanksgiving dinner at Aunt Carol's because they have to put in their 4 hour shift at Giant?

A job is an EC activity. It’s extra to curricular activity.

Ok fine.
At the expense of time to study? Playing a sport? Playing a musical instrument/singing? Performing in a school theater production? Taking part in a robotics competition?

How happy will you be when your 16 year old has to miss out on family events like birthday parties, Thanksgiving at relative's house, etc. because they have to work weekends/evenings/holidays?

My daughter has 2 jobs and has never missed an important family event due to them. She also takes Taekwondo and is in Marching band and is a 4.0 UW GPA student.

Time management matters. That’s why people are saying it’s a good thing. It’s not at the expense of other things, it’s a valuable activity in its own right. I’m not saying all kids have to have a job. I’m just saying that a job can be rewarding in more ways than earning a paycheck.

"Time management" has nothing to do with it if your work schedules you to work noon-4 pm on Thanksgiving and the entire family has dinner at 5 at Aunt Carol's in Scranton.
Maybe your kid's workplace wasn't open on Thanksgiving, but many of the examples given here (like grocery stores) definitely are.

Okay. You need to stop with this very specific example. Most people don’t work on thanksgiving and kids can actually request off and they can quit if it’s an issue. You’re making an example of like one day out of 365 days. And if my kid had to work on thanksgiving I’d not be angry about it.

In the unlikely scenario that I have to go to Scranton on thanksgiving a 5PM and my child is scheduled to work at Giant that weekend, I will deal with that bridge when I come to it.

You need to stop thinking you can tell me what to do. Your daughter's situation is also a "very specific example" yet you keep bringing it up.

It's not just "one day"--most families have multiple special days, holidays, an occasions that are harder to accommodate when you work low level service jobs.

You’re a great person to have a discussion with. Thanks for the memories.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You stop providing things for them that are not the basics and they’ll get a job.

At the expense of time to study? Time in ECs? Volunteer work?

Are you going to be a happier parent when your 16 year old can't come to Thanksgiving dinner at Aunt Carol's because they have to put in their 4 hour shift at Giant?

A job is an EC activity. It’s extra to curricular activity.

Ok fine.
At the expense of time to study? Playing a sport? Playing a musical instrument/singing? Performing in a school theater production? Taking part in a robotics competition?

How happy will you be when your 16 year old has to miss out on family events like birthday parties, Thanksgiving at relative's house, etc. because they have to work weekends/evenings/holidays?

My daughter has 2 jobs and has never missed an important family event due to them. She also takes Taekwondo and is in Marching band and is a 4.0 UW GPA student.

Time management matters. That’s why people are saying it’s a good thing. It’s not at the expense of other things, it’s a valuable activity in its own right. I’m not saying all kids have to have a job. I’m just saying that a job can be rewarding in more ways than earning a paycheck.

"Time management" has nothing to do with it if your work schedules you to work noon-4 pm on Thanksgiving and the entire family has dinner at 5 at Aunt Carol's in Scranton.
Maybe your kid's workplace wasn't open on Thanksgiving, but many of the examples given here (like grocery stores) definitely are.

Very much this. If PP's kid doesn't have those constraints but works the kind of job that otherwise requires nights/weekends/holidays, she's getting princess treatment for some reason & her coworkers resent her.

Exactly. Maybe pp's best friend is the manager?

No. She chooses jobs that she can work around the schedule. I don’t know anyone who is in management at those jobs.

Look, make all the excuses you want. The fact is that jobs for teenagers do exist and they can be done around the schedules needed for teenagers. If you want to always assume someone else is getting something you aren’t getting due to some luck or connection that’s fine but it’s clear that you or your kids have not greatly explored the available opportunities. There is no reason that a teenager from a privileged background must have a job. My kid wanted one. Yours did not. That’s the whole of the story. If you’re already making excuses for them so they don’t even have to, of course they don’t go finding one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You stop providing things for them that are not the basics and they’ll get a job.

At the expense of time to study? Time in ECs? Volunteer work?

Are you going to be a happier parent when your 16 year old can't come to Thanksgiving dinner at Aunt Carol's because they have to put in their 4 hour shift at Giant?

A job is an EC activity. It’s extra to curricular activity.

Ok fine.
At the expense of time to study? Playing a sport? Playing a musical instrument/singing? Performing in a school theater production? Taking part in a robotics competition?

How happy will you be when your 16 year old has to miss out on family events like birthday parties, Thanksgiving at relative's house, etc. because they have to work weekends/evenings/holidays?

My daughter has 2 jobs and has never missed an important family event due to them. She also takes Taekwondo and is in Marching band and is a 4.0 UW GPA student.

Time management matters. That’s why people are saying it’s a good thing. It’s not at the expense of other things, it’s a valuable activity in its own right. I’m not saying all kids have to have a job. I’m just saying that a job can be rewarding in more ways than earning a paycheck.

She'll have a lifetime to work. Sad that she's missing out on just being a kid.