Schools in Silver Spring

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that the students in SS are just not smart enough for your child to be challenged is not...I mean for those of us who live in SS you have to understand it does make us laugh.

As I'm sure you're aware, "Silver Spring" is actually a pretty large geographic area and the schools are not all the same. I used to substitute teach and while I would be fine sending my kids to most schools in SS (and they do), some of the schools have some pretty significant challenges. You do have to pay attention.

I actually agree with you that many schools in SS have significant challenges, but my understanding is that these are behavior challenges among some children that unfortunately impact the rest of the class. Not a lack of intelligence overall.

I wouldn't focus on whether the students are intelligent or not (however you are defining that) but whether a school will be a supportive and appropriate learning environment for your child. Some of us want them to learn in school, not teach them ourselves at home. There seems to be this reoccurring argument that as long as your kid has a solid home environment and involved parents, they'll do fine no matter what the school environment is. That's not necessarily true.

I think we pretty much agree on everything so I'm not sure why you have a problem with me saying it's silly to say the kids in SS are not smart enough.

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Anonymous wrote:Your family sounds more like a North Bethesda/Rockville family to me than Silver Spring.

Yup. I agree with this.

+1 I was about to post that many of the Eastern European and Russian families we know live in Rockville.

I grew up in silver spring, if I couldn’t afford Bethesda I would move to North Bethesda/Rockville as the pp stated. Silver Spring is just not where I would raise a family.

And you're going to find variety on this. So I'll just give an honest counter-view. We could afford to live in Bethesda and choose to raise our kids in Silver Spring. I have friends in Bethesda and the sense of community seems better in Silver Spring. Also, I just don't feel like enough people talk about the downsides of wealthy areas. The kids I know in Bethesda are more focused on brands, appearance, clothing, etc, and sort of cliquey keeping up with the Joneses stuff. In my experience there is less of that in Silver Spring, and that's more consistent with what I'm looking for in where I raise my kids.

I live near but not in Bethesda. I know plenty of kids in Bethesda. I wouldn’t say any of the kids I know are focused on brands, appearance or clothing AT ALL, especially compared to kids I know in NY, NJ, Philly, Chicago, etc. This area is really not very fashion conscious. That’s not to say there aren’t other things that may differ from your neighborhood in Silver Spring.

Ya… this is wrong. Bethesda is incredibly materialistic, like wealthy suburbs everywhere. Guess you need to live “in” it. Raising kids in Silver Spring you avoid all that, but still get highly educated parents in a diverse community.

Why does it matter whether parents in Silver Spring are “highly educated?” You’re just elitist in your own way.

DP - when there's a common misperception that SS is mostly low SES, it's reasonable to correct the record.

Another DP. People constantly justify their choice to buy in Bethesda/Potomac/Chevy Chase because they seem to think that's where all the high achieving parents live so that's where all the high achieving kids will be. The multiple assumptions here are all wrong.

+1. People just don’t realize it. Incredibly high achieving people in SS, but maybe not high income — professors, scientists, govt. Bethesda — high income certainly doesn’t mean high achieving or intelligent. Lots of dumb money there.

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Anonymous wrote:Your family sounds more like a North Bethesda/Rockville family to me than Silver Spring.

Yup. I agree with this.

+1 I was about to post that many of the Eastern European and Russian families we know live in Rockville.

I grew up in silver spring, if I couldn’t afford Bethesda I would move to North Bethesda/Rockville as the pp stated. Silver Spring is just not where I would raise a family.

And you're going to find variety on this. So I'll just give an honest counter-view. We could afford to live in Bethesda and choose to raise our kids in Silver Spring. I have friends in Bethesda and the sense of community seems better in Silver Spring. Also, I just don't feel like enough people talk about the downsides of wealthy areas. The kids I know in Bethesda are more focused on brands, appearance, clothing, etc, and sort of cliquey keeping up with the Joneses stuff. In my experience there is less of that in Silver Spring, and that's more consistent with what I'm looking for in where I raise my kids.

I live near but not in Bethesda. I know plenty of kids in Bethesda. I wouldn’t say any of the kids I know are focused on brands, appearance or clothing AT ALL, especially compared to kids I know in NY, NJ, Philly, Chicago, etc. This area is really not very fashion conscious. That’s not to say there aren’t other things that may differ from your neighborhood in Silver Spring.

Ya… this is wrong. Bethesda is incredibly materialistic, like wealthy suburbs everywhere. Guess you need to live “in” it. Raising kids in Silver Spring you avoid all that, but still get highly educated parents in a diverse community.

Why does it matter whether parents in Silver Spring are “highly educated?” You’re just elitist in your own way.

DP - when there's a common misperception that SS is mostly low SES, it's reasonable to correct the record.

Another DP. People constantly justify their choice to buy in Bethesda/Potomac/Chevy Chase because they seem to think that's where all the high achieving parents live so that's where all the high achieving kids will be. The multiple assumptions here are all wrong.

+1. People just don’t realize it. Incredibly high achieving people in SS, but maybe not high income — professors, scientists, govt. Bethesda — high income certainly doesn’t mean high achieving or intelligent. Lots of dumb money there.

Oh good grief. Professors and scientists are not low income! They may not be 1 percenters but they would be considered decent income earners compared to the vast majority of earners in this country.

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We have an older child at Einstein and 2 youngers at Oakland Terrace ES. So far very good. Older child is in IB program and my younger kids are loving the immersion and speaking Spanish like crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that the students in SS are just not smart enough for your child to be challenged is not...I mean for those of us who live in SS you have to understand it does make us laugh.

As I'm sure you're aware, "Silver Spring" is actually a pretty large geographic area and the schools are not all the same. I used to substitute teach and while I would be fine sending my kids to most schools in SS (and they do), some of the schools have some pretty significant challenges. You do have to pay attention.

I actually agree with you that many schools in SS have significant challenges, but my understanding is that these are behavior challenges among some children that unfortunately impact the rest of the class. Not a lack of intelligence overall.

Oh good grief. Are you suggesting that schools in western Montgomery county don't have children with "behavior challenges"? Give me a break!

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that the students in SS are just not smart enough for your child to be challenged is not...I mean for those of us who live in SS you have to understand it does make us laugh.

As I'm sure you're aware, "Silver Spring" is actually a pretty large geographic area and the schools are not all the same. I used to substitute teach and while I would be fine sending my kids to most schools in SS (and they do), some of the schools have some pretty significant challenges. You do have to pay attention.

I actually agree with you that many schools in SS have significant challenges, but my understanding is that these are behavior challenges among some children that unfortunately impact the rest of the class. Not a lack of intelligence overall.

Oh good grief. Are you suggesting that schools in western Montgomery county don't have children with "behavior challenges"? Give me a break!

Of course they do. I didn't say anything about schools in western Montgomery County. We can't afford to live there so I haven't researched those schools. My comment comes from my research I have done talking to MCPS employees and reviewing survey results showing certain ESs have behavior issues leading to significant safety concerns among staff.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that the students in SS are just not smart enough for your child to be challenged is not...I mean for those of us who live in SS you have to understand it does make us laugh.

As I'm sure you're aware, "Silver Spring" is actually a pretty large geographic area and the schools are not all the same. I used to substitute teach and while I would be fine sending my kids to most schools in SS (and they do), some of the schools have some pretty significant challenges. You do have to pay attention.

I actually agree with you that many schools in SS have significant challenges, but my understanding is that these are behavior challenges among some children that unfortunately impact the rest of the class. Not a lack of intelligence overall.

I wouldn't focus on whether the students are intelligent or not (however you are defining that) but whether a school will be a supportive and appropriate learning environment for your child. Some of us want them to learn in school, not teach them ourselves at home. There seems to be this reoccurring argument that as long as your kid has a solid home environment and involved parents, they'll do fine no matter what the school environment is. That's not necessarily true.

Actually, studies show that it is, in fact, true.

https://www.aecf.org/blog/parental-involvement-is-key-to-student-success-research-shows

https://militaryfamilies.psu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Parents-Educational-Levels-Influence-on-Child-Educational-Outcomes.20Jan06.final_.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that the students in SS are just not smart enough for your child to be challenged is not...I mean for those of us who live in SS you have to understand it does make us laugh.

As I'm sure you're aware, "Silver Spring" is actually a pretty large geographic area and the schools are not all the same. I used to substitute teach and while I would be fine sending my kids to most schools in SS (and they do), some of the schools have some pretty significant challenges. You do have to pay attention.

I actually agree with you that many schools in SS have significant challenges, but my understanding is that these are behavior challenges among some children that unfortunately impact the rest of the class. Not a lack of intelligence overall.

Oh good grief. Are you suggesting that schools in western Montgomery county don't have children with "behavior challenges"? Give me a break!

Of course they do. I didn't say anything about schools in western Montgomery County. We can't afford to live there so I haven't researched those schools. My comment comes from my research I have done talking to MCPS employees and reviewing survey results showing certain ESs have behavior issues leading to significant safety concerns among staff.

Could you please provide the results of your research?

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that the students in SS are just not smart enough for your child to be challenged is not...I mean for those of us who live in SS you have to understand it does make us laugh.

As I'm sure you're aware, "Silver Spring" is actually a pretty large geographic area and the schools are not all the same. I used to substitute teach and while I would be fine sending my kids to most schools in SS (and they do), some of the schools have some pretty significant challenges. You do have to pay attention.

I actually agree with you that many schools in SS have significant challenges, but my understanding is that these are behavior challenges among some children that unfortunately impact the rest of the class. Not a lack of intelligence overall.

Oh good grief. Are you suggesting that schools in western Montgomery county don't have children with "behavior challenges"? Give me a break!

Of course they do. I didn't say anything about schools in western Montgomery County. We can't afford to live there so I haven't researched those schools. My comment comes from my research I have done talking to MCPS employees and reviewing survey results showing certain ESs have behavior issues leading to significant safety concerns among staff.

Could you please provide the results of your research?

No, it's not published research, sorry, and was specific to certain neighborhoods we were looking at.

You can start with the MCPS school climate surveys if you want.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that the students in SS are just not smart enough for your child to be challenged is not...I mean for those of us who live in SS you have to understand it does make us laugh.

As I'm sure you're aware, "Silver Spring" is actually a pretty large geographic area and the schools are not all the same. I used to substitute teach and while I would be fine sending my kids to most schools in SS (and they do), some of the schools have some pretty significant challenges. You do have to pay attention.

I actually agree with you that many schools in SS have significant challenges, but my understanding is that these are behavior challenges among some children that unfortunately impact the rest of the class. Not a lack of intelligence overall.

Oh good grief. Are you suggesting that schools in western Montgomery county don't have children with "behavior challenges"? Give me a break!

Of course they do. I didn't say anything about schools in western Montgomery County. We can't afford to live there so I haven't researched those schools. My comment comes from my research I have done talking to MCPS employees and reviewing survey results showing certain ESs have behavior issues leading to significant safety concerns among staff.

Could you please provide the results of your research?

No, it's not published research, sorry, and was specific to certain neighborhoods we were looking at.

You can start with the MCPS school climate surveys if you want.

No you can not. Those surveys are old and not relevant. MCPS is too scared to continue them.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that the students in SS are just not smart enough for your child to be challenged is not...I mean for those of us who live in SS you have to understand it does make us laugh.

As I'm sure you're aware, "Silver Spring" is actually a pretty large geographic area and the schools are not all the same. I used to substitute teach and while I would be fine sending my kids to most schools in SS (and they do), some of the schools have some pretty significant challenges. You do have to pay attention.

I actually agree with you that many schools in SS have significant challenges, but my understanding is that these are behavior challenges among some children that unfortunately impact the rest of the class. Not a lack of intelligence overall.

Oh good grief. Are you suggesting that schools in western Montgomery county don't have children with "behavior challenges"? Give me a break!

Of course they do. I didn't say anything about schools in western Montgomery County. We can't afford to live there so I haven't researched those schools. My comment comes from my research I have done talking to MCPS employees and reviewing survey results showing certain ESs have behavior issues leading to significant safety concerns among staff.

Could you please provide the results of your research?

No, it's not published research, sorry, and was specific to certain neighborhoods we were looking at.

You can start with the MCPS school climate surveys if you want.

No you can not. Those surveys are old and not relevant. MCPS is too scared to continue them.

Look again

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that the students in SS are just not smart enough for your child to be challenged is not...I mean for those of us who live in SS you have to understand it does make us laugh.

As I'm sure you're aware, "Silver Spring" is actually a pretty large geographic area and the schools are not all the same. I used to substitute teach and while I would be fine sending my kids to most schools in SS (and they do), some of the schools have some pretty significant challenges. You do have to pay attention.

I actually agree with you that many schools in SS have significant challenges, but my understanding is that these are behavior challenges among some children that unfortunately impact the rest of the class. Not a lack of intelligence overall.

Oh good grief. Are you suggesting that schools in western Montgomery county don't have children with "behavior challenges"? Give me a break!

Of course they do. I didn't say anything about schools in western Montgomery County. We can't afford to live there so I haven't researched those schools. My comment comes from my research I have done talking to MCPS employees and reviewing survey results showing certain ESs have behavior issues leading to significant safety concerns among staff.

Could you please provide the results of your research?

No, it's not published research, sorry, and was specific to certain neighborhoods we were looking at.

You can start with the MCPS school climate surveys if you want.

No you can not. Those surveys are old and not relevant. MCPS is too scared to continue them.

Look again

Thanks- where?

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that the students in SS are just not smart enough for your child to be challenged is not...I mean for those of us who live in SS you have to understand it does make us laugh.

As I'm sure you're aware, "Silver Spring" is actually a pretty large geographic area and the schools are not all the same. I used to substitute teach and while I would be fine sending my kids to most schools in SS (and they do), some of the schools have some pretty significant challenges. You do have to pay attention.

I actually agree with you that many schools in SS have significant challenges, but my understanding is that these are behavior challenges among some children that unfortunately impact the rest of the class. Not a lack of intelligence overall.

Oh good grief. Are you suggesting that schools in western Montgomery county don't have children with "behavior challenges"? Give me a break!

Of course they do. I didn't say anything about schools in western Montgomery County. We can't afford to live there so I haven't researched those schools. My comment comes from my research I have done talking to MCPS employees and reviewing survey results showing certain ESs have behavior issues leading to significant safety concerns among staff.

Could you please provide the results of your research?

No, it's not published research, sorry, and was specific to certain neighborhoods we were looking at.

You can start with the MCPS school climate surveys if you want.

No you can not. Those surveys are old and not relevant. MCPS is too scared to continue them.

Look again

Thanks- where?

https://sharedaccountability.mcpsmd.org/SurveyResults/content.php

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that the students in SS are just not smart enough for your child to be challenged is not...I mean for those of us who live in SS you have to understand it does make us laugh.

As I'm sure you're aware, "Silver Spring" is actually a pretty large geographic area and the schools are not all the same. I used to substitute teach and while I would be fine sending my kids to most schools in SS (and they do), some of the schools have some pretty significant challenges. You do have to pay attention.

I actually agree with you that many schools in SS have significant challenges, but my understanding is that these are behavior challenges among some children that unfortunately impact the rest of the class. Not a lack of intelligence overall.

Oh good grief. Are you suggesting that schools in western Montgomery county don't have children with "behavior challenges"? Give me a break!

Of course they do. I didn't say anything about schools in western Montgomery County. We can't afford to live there so I haven't researched those schools. My comment comes from my research I have done talking to MCPS employees and reviewing survey results showing certain ESs have behavior issues leading to significant safety concerns among staff.

Could you please provide the results of your research?

No, it's not published research, sorry, and was specific to certain neighborhoods we were looking at.

You can start with the MCPS school climate surveys if you want.

No you can not. Those surveys are old and not relevant. MCPS is too scared to continue them.

Look again

Fewer than 25% of parent surveys returned and the last year is 2018-19.

That plus conversations with people is your "research"?

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that the students in SS are just not smart enough for your child to be challenged is not...I mean for those of us who live in SS you have to understand it does make us laugh.

As I'm sure you're aware, "Silver Spring" is actually a pretty large geographic area and the schools are not all the same. I used to substitute teach and while I would be fine sending my kids to most schools in SS (and they do), some of the schools have some pretty significant challenges. You do have to pay attention.

I actually agree with you that many schools in SS have significant challenges, but my understanding is that these are behavior challenges among some children that unfortunately impact the rest of the class. Not a lack of intelligence overall.

Oh good grief. Are you suggesting that schools in western Montgomery county don't have children with "behavior challenges"? Give me a break!

Of course they do. I didn't say anything about schools in western Montgomery County. We can't afford to live there so I haven't researched those schools. My comment comes from my research I have done talking to MCPS employees and reviewing survey results showing certain ESs have behavior issues leading to significant safety concerns among staff.

Could you please provide the results of your research?

No, it's not published research, sorry, and was specific to certain neighborhoods we were looking at.

You can start with the MCPS school climate surveys if you want.

No you can not. Those surveys are old and not relevant. MCPS is too scared to continue them.

Look again

Fewer than 25% of parent surveys returned and the last year is 2018-19.

That plus conversations with people is your "research"?

Either you didn't actually look or you live in an alternate universe where the 2022-23 teacher survey results have not been posted. I also said they are a starting point for research, not the only piece. Stop being a jerk for no reason.