Looking for some feedback on Eastern HS?

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I went back and looked at the Washington Post article. The article is sort of interesting because it talks about Maury circa 15 years ago and the demographics at EH just 5 years ago and well it is different now.

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Anonymous wrote:Why the hate? My impression was the oldest daughter was especially high achieving. You know the type. He conceded that going to Walls from EH was the overall much better fit for her. I do not think there is any real inconsistency in believing in neighborhood schools, supporting DCPS, and sending a very high-achieving child who gets in to a DCPS application high school.

How do we know that Eastern’s IB program isn’t full of high achieving students?

There aren't enough students testing at grade level for the IB program to be pulling mostly students at grade level.

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Anonymous wrote:Joe Weedon will thinks Eastern is fine for everyone (except his daughter):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/they-believe-more-students-should-attend-neighborhood-schools-but-what-happens-when-its-their-child/2019/04/13/8e797690-3ed6-11e9-9361-301ffb5bd5e6_story.html

His daughter went to Walls and recently testified to DC Council that options for schools should be limited and more students encouraged to go to their neighborhood schools.

Typical social justice hypocrisy

His son does attend Eastern, which is more than I can say for any of my Hill neighbors.

Dude already made entirely clear that he’d take Walls if possible. So just like Hill neighbors.

I send my kids to a charter HS, as do most of my neighbors who didn’t go private or get into Walls. There are other options, and their family still stuck with Eastern. I recognize that is, long term, probably the best thing for Eastern. I’m just saying that Joe Weeden, whom I’ve never even spoken to, at least sticks with his principles better than most.

How does HE stick with his principals? After decades of obnoxious, preening blathering, he conceded that in fact, school choice is something Hill parents want. I won’t speculate on his son because that’s not fair; but there just are not any charter options that you can start at 9th grade. But sure, glad he had a second kid so he can continue with his self-aggrandizement and expect us to forget about kid #1 embarrassingly demonstrating the limits to his nonsense.

Cap City, Chavez*, Thurgood Marshall, KIPP*, Friendship*, Digital Pioneers*, Haynes, Washington Leadership Academy, Girls Global Academy, IDEA*, Maya Angelou*, Paul*, SEED*, Sojourner Truth, and Richard Wright would like a word. The ones with asterisks have fewer than 10 on their 9th grade waitlists, and many have no waitlist. Not saying these are necessarily all better than Eastern but there are plenty of charters and selective DCPS options for 9th graders.

Thanks for making my point for me. None of those are strong or even decent academic choices.

If your kid can only succeed when surrounded by tons of kids from rich and well-educated families, you have a point--and you should probably look at private, or at least a public in a very wealthy area. But there are kids doing well at all of these charter schools (look at the Coke Scholar from Cap City, for example), other charters (DCI and Latin, for example), and in DCPS too. Using public schools in a city that is majority-minority and has high child poverty rates is going to be different than the experience in a more wealthy and homogenous suburb. That's not to say DC schools are perfect--I'd make some very big changes if I were the DCPS chancellor! But if you turn your nose up at a dozen + schools educating thousands of kids and don't think any student is getting a decent education, I'd have to disagree.

Well maybe then Weedon’s daughter should have stayed at Eastern?

To claim YOUR kid has the right to select a high academic achieving school, but MY kid has to make do at a failing school, is the height of hypocrisy.

Oh I agree that Weedon is a hypocrite and I'm glad he's not on the SBOE anymore. But I don't think his kid should be punished, or have fewer choices than any other kid, as a result of her dad. And I also think the city would be better off if more kids went to their in-bound schools. I just think there are ways to encourage that other than restricting choice.

How is he a hypocrite? His daughter goes to Walls and his son goes to Eastern. These are decisions made by the kids. What do want him to do, force his child to go to Eastern to align with HIS philosophy?

What was fascinating about that story in the Post all those years ago is that it's very clear that some people DID expect him to do that, and good for him and his wife for understanding that doesn't make sense. But that story should illustrate how being very rigid about perspectives on these issues is unproductive and fails kids. Expecting all parents to send their kids to IB schools even when those IB schools explicitly do not meet the needs of that specific child is unreasonable. But expecting parents to be able to find alternatives to IB school when there are so few available and many are simply out of reach for most families (because they are restricted by limited admissions, lottery luck, location, or in the case of private schools, cost) is also not reasonable. It's great Weedon's daughter found a school in Walls that both met her needs AND was accessible to her. There are many students in DC for whom that doesn't happen, because there are lots of students who either won't get into Walls or an application HS of their choice, or will get in but it's no the right fit, but who are also not served by their neighborhood schools. Pretending the neighborhood schools are great doesn't make this better.

I mean, people expected it because he was a loud voice expressly and impliedly arguing that we should all send our kids to the IB, no ifs ands or buts. But when the reality of HS hit him, he made and exception … for himself. Yes, he made the right choice for his kid. Nobody begrudges him that. The highly annoying thing is that his prior advocacy was all built on moral haranguing uniformed by reality.

His son goes to Eastern.

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Anonymous wrote:Joe Weedon will thinks Eastern is fine for everyone (except his daughter):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/they-believe-more-students-should-attend-neighborhood-schools-but-what-happens-when-its-their-child/2019/04/13/8e797690-3ed6-11e9-9361-301ffb5bd5e6_story.html

His daughter went to Walls and recently testified to DC Council that options for schools should be limited and more students encouraged to go to their neighborhood schools.

Typical social justice hypocrisy

His son does attend Eastern, which is more than I can say for any of my Hill neighbors.

Dude already made entirely clear that he’d take Walls if possible. So just like Hill neighbors.

I send my kids to a charter HS, as do most of my neighbors who didn’t go private or get into Walls. There are other options, and their family still stuck with Eastern. I recognize that is, long term, probably the best thing for Eastern. I’m just saying that Joe Weeden, whom I’ve never even spoken to, at least sticks with his principles better than most.

How does HE stick with his principals? After decades of obnoxious, preening blathering, he conceded that in fact, school choice is something Hill parents want. I won’t speculate on his son because that’s not fair; but there just are not any charter options that you can start at 9th grade. But sure, glad he had a second kid so he can continue with his self-aggrandizement and expect us to forget about kid #1 embarrassingly demonstrating the limits to his nonsense.

Cap City, Chavez*, Thurgood Marshall, KIPP*, Friendship*, Digital Pioneers*, Haynes, Washington Leadership Academy, Girls Global Academy, IDEA*, Maya Angelou*, Paul*, SEED*, Sojourner Truth, and Richard Wright would like a word. The ones with asterisks have fewer than 10 on their 9th grade waitlists, and many have no waitlist. Not saying these are necessarily all better than Eastern but there are plenty of charters and selective DCPS options for 9th graders.

Thanks for making my point for me. None of those are strong or even decent academic choices.

If your kid can only succeed when surrounded by tons of kids from rich and well-educated families, you have a point--and you should probably look at private, or at least a public in a very wealthy area. But there are kids doing well at all of these charter schools (look at the Coke Scholar from Cap City, for example), other charters (DCI and Latin, for example), and in DCPS too. Using public schools in a city that is majority-minority and has high child poverty rates is going to be different than the experience in a more wealthy and homogenous suburb. That's not to say DC schools are perfect--I'd make some very big changes if I were the DCPS chancellor! But if you turn your nose up at a dozen + schools educating thousands of kids and don't think any student is getting a decent education, I'd have to disagree.

Well maybe then Weedon’s daughter should have stayed at Eastern?

To claim YOUR kid has the right to select a high academic achieving school, but MY kid has to make do at a failing school, is the height of hypocrisy.

Oh I agree that Weedon is a hypocrite and I'm glad he's not on the SBOE anymore. But I don't think his kid should be punished, or have fewer choices than any other kid, as a result of her dad. And I also think the city would be better off if more kids went to their in-bound schools. I just think there are ways to encourage that other than restricting choice.

How is he a hypocrite? His daughter goes to Walls and his son goes to Eastern. These are decisions made by the kids. What do want him to do, force his child to go to Eastern to align with HIS philosophy?

What was fascinating about that story in the Post all those years ago is that it's very clear that some people DID expect him to do that, and good for him and his wife for understanding that doesn't make sense. But that story should illustrate how being very rigid about perspectives on these issues is unproductive and fails kids. Expecting all parents to send their kids to IB schools even when those IB schools explicitly do not meet the needs of that specific child is unreasonable. But expecting parents to be able to find alternatives to IB school when there are so few available and many are simply out of reach for most families (because they are restricted by limited admissions, lottery luck, location, or in the case of private schools, cost) is also not reasonable. It's great Weedon's daughter found a school in Walls that both met her needs AND was accessible to her. There are many students in DC for whom that doesn't happen, because there are lots of students who either won't get into Walls or an application HS of their choice, or will get in but it's no the right fit, but who are also not served by their neighborhood schools. Pretending the neighborhood schools are great doesn't make this better.

I mean, people expected it because he was a loud voice expressly and impliedly arguing that we should all send our kids to the IB, no ifs ands or buts. But when the reality of HS hit him, he made and exception … for himself. Yes, he made the right choice for his kid. Nobody begrudges him that. The highly annoying thing is that his prior advocacy was all built on moral haranguing uniformed by reality.

His son goes to Eastern.

But his other kid does not. He made a different choice when it was available to him. Not sure why this is hard to understand.

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Anonymous wrote:Why the hate? My impression was the oldest daughter was especially high achieving. You know the type. He conceded that going to Walls from EH was the overall much better fit for her. I do not think there is any real inconsistency in believing in neighborhood schools, supporting DCPS, and sending a very high-achieving child who gets in to a DCPS application high school.

How do we know that Eastern’s IB program isn’t full of high achieving students?

Easy enough. Look at the IB averages. I hear it’s 24 or 25. 24 is the minimum that you need to get the IB diploma.

For top schools like Ivies, you need minimum 40-42. For top 20 schools high 30’s.

Definitely not high achieving. Average IB scores are bottom of the barrel.

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Unfortunately, IBD Geneva HQ doesn't publish average scores by school, which makes it tough to know. Some schools publish their own IBD scores on their websites etc. Eastern, Banneker and DCI don't. But, yes, the conventional wisdom about Eastern's IBD scores is that they're in the 20s.

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Anonymous wrote:Why the hate? My impression was the oldest daughter was especially high achieving. You know the type. He conceded that going to Walls from EH was the overall much better fit for her. I do not think there is any real inconsistency in believing in neighborhood schools, supporting DCPS, and sending a very high-achieving child who gets in to a DCPS application high school.

How do we know that Eastern’s IB program isn’t full of high achieving students?

The IB program at Eastern is essentially the grade-level group. 15% of students test 4+ on ELA, and 15% test 3+ on math. Total enrollment at Eastern is 766, so that’s ballpark 29 kids per grade.

(For context, that pattern is typical of PARCC scores: the percent scoring 4+ in ELA is also virtually the same as the percent scoring 3+ in math at a lot of high schools, including Walls, Banneker, J-R, and Basis 9-12.)

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Just for fun, read about Eastern High School's Temitayo Adeola who just finished his first year at Columbia U. on a full ride scholarship.

https://wjla.com/news/local/i-was-hyperventilating-dc-student-receives-full-ride-scholarship-columbia-university-temitayo-adeola

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Anonymous wrote:Just for fun, read about Eastern High School's Temitayo Adeola who just finished his first year at Columbia U. on a full ride scholarship.

https://wjla.com/news/local/i-was-hyperventilating-dc-student-receives-full-ride-scholarship-columbia-university-temitayo-adeola

classic striver immigrant story - likely came over with highly educated Nigerian parents at 11 and studied very hard. Same story as my German refugee relatives. I would love my kid to be in that atmosphere but I think most immigrant families that value education choose MD and VA over DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Just for fun, read about Eastern High School's Temitayo Adeola who just finished his first year at Columbia U. on a full ride scholarship.

https://wjla.com/news/local/i-was-hyperventilating-dc-student-receives-full-ride-scholarship-columbia-university-temitayo-adeola

Grand, but my kid's not a low SES black immigrant who might well get preferential treatment in elite college admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:Joe Weedon will thinks Eastern is fine for everyone (except his daughter):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/they-believe-more-students-should-attend-neighborhood-schools-but-what-happens-when-its-their-child/2019/04/13/8e797690-3ed6-11e9-9361-301ffb5bd5e6_story.html

His daughter went to Walls and recently testified to DC Council that options for schools should be limited and more students encouraged to go to their neighborhood schools.

Typical social justice hypocrisy

His son does attend Eastern, which is more than I can say for any of my Hill neighbors.

Dude already made entirely clear that he’d take Walls if possible. So just like Hill neighbors.

I send my kids to a charter HS, as do most of my neighbors who didn’t go private or get into Walls. There are other options, and their family still stuck with Eastern. I recognize that is, long term, probably the best thing for Eastern. I’m just saying that Joe Weeden, whom I’ve never even spoken to, at least sticks with his principles better than most.

How does HE stick with his principals? After decades of obnoxious, preening blathering, he conceded that in fact, school choice is something Hill parents want. I won’t speculate on his son because that’s not fair; but there just are not any charter options that you can start at 9th grade. But sure, glad he had a second kid so he can continue with his self-aggrandizement and expect us to forget about kid #1 embarrassingly demonstrating the limits to his nonsense.

Cap City, Chavez*, Thurgood Marshall, KIPP*, Friendship*, Digital Pioneers*, Haynes, Washington Leadership Academy, Girls Global Academy, IDEA*, Maya Angelou*, Paul*, SEED*, Sojourner Truth, and Richard Wright would like a word. The ones with asterisks have fewer than 10 on their 9th grade waitlists, and many have no waitlist. Not saying these are necessarily all better than Eastern but there are plenty of charters and selective DCPS options for 9th graders.

Thanks for making my point for me. None of those are strong or even decent academic choices.

If your kid can only succeed when surrounded by tons of kids from rich and well-educated families, you have a point--and you should probably look at private, or at least a public in a very wealthy area. But there are kids doing well at all of these charter schools (look at the Coke Scholar from Cap City, for example), other charters (DCI and Latin, for example), and in DCPS too. Using public schools in a city that is majority-minority and has high child poverty rates is going to be different than the experience in a more wealthy and homogenous suburb. That's not to say DC schools are perfect--I'd make some very big changes if I were the DCPS chancellor! But if you turn your nose up at a dozen + schools educating thousands of kids and don't think any student is getting a decent education, I'd have to disagree.

Well maybe then Weedon’s daughter should have stayed at Eastern?

To claim YOUR kid has the right to select a high academic achieving school, but MY kid has to make do at a failing school, is the height of hypocrisy.

Oh I agree that Weedon is a hypocrite and I'm glad he's not on the SBOE anymore. But I don't think his kid should be punished, or have fewer choices than any other kid, as a result of her dad. And I also think the city would be better off if more kids went to their in-bound schools. I just think there are ways to encourage that other than restricting choice.

How is he a hypocrite? His daughter goes to Walls and his son goes to Eastern. These are decisions made by the kids. What do want him to do, force his child to go to Eastern to align with HIS philosophy?

Joe Weedon and his disgusting minions are fine bullying others when they make other choices. His gross friend (also quoted in that article) bullied a Latino friend of mine and kept insisting that their kids needed to attend eastern since it was so “diverse”.
She didn’t say her reason, just that they belonged there? I guess because they had brown skin? They’re disgusting people and need to mind their own business.

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Anonymous wrote:Just for fun, read about Eastern High School's Temitayo Adeola who just finished his first year at Columbia U. on a full ride scholarship.

https://wjla.com/news/local/i-was-hyperventilating-dc-student-receives-full-ride-scholarship-columbia-university-temitayo-adeola

Grand, but my kid's not a low SES black immigrant who might well get preferential treatment in elite college admissions.

I’m also convinced Joe weedon and his minions are just there to get clout off the back of black and brown kids which makes them racist in my eyes.

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Do any of you who are making these general accusations against Weedon have any links to actual quotes from him from before his daughter made the decision to attend SWW? What specifically are you claiming that he said back then? Links, please.

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Anonymous wrote:Just for fun, read about Eastern High School's Temitayo Adeola who just finished his first year at Columbia U. on a full ride scholarship.

https://wjla.com/news/local/i-was-hyperventilating-dc-student-receives-full-ride-scholarship-columbia-university-temitayo-adeola

Grand, but my kid's not a low SES black immigrant who might well get preferential treatment in elite college admissions.

Most white UMC kids also don't have this EC profile: \

In the meanwhile, he is so busy – he can barely keep up. The band student is also involved in a social justice club, in his church choir, he’s a youth volunteer, and works at Chick-Fil-A. “The list goes on and on," Temi laughed. "I have an internship with DC public parks and have another part time job."

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Anonymous wrote:Do any of you who are making these general accusations against Weedon have any links to actual quotes from him from before his daughter made the decision to attend SWW? What specifically are you claiming that he said back then? Links, please.

Here’s just one example of his anti-charter advocacy: https://twitter.com/joeweedon/status/1516514315028905991