Beautiful tudor in bethesda

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Anonymous wrote:Kitchen is horrendous

A galley kitchen. Not HGTV. Not horrendous.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in a 1930s mock Tudor and it was amazingly well built. I would have no problem with a well-built Tudor. I’m in a circa 2015 new build colonial and often long for the thick walls and doors and pretty arches of my childhood home. It was plenty bright, too.

If you had walking around money in the 1930s, you could go nuts on materials and labor because things were cheap. Lots of homes built during those years are overbuilt relative to their 1920s or 1940s counterparts.

Furthermore, this place seems like it was put together by someone actually involved in home building. Often builders and developers and others in the industry will put the best stuff in their own houses, making for surprisingly durable structures.

Systems could an altogether matter. Plumbing, electrical, and especially HVAC have changed enough that the when and what of updates are real questions. I'd be very curious about this place's utility bills.

The 20s was probably peak for home construction quality balancing affordability and accessibility. There are entire neighborhoods of lovely 1920s houses in most American cities that are often also still the most desirable neighborhoods.

The housing market collapsed with the depression and why housing quality deteriorated was because developers scaled back on quality as well as size to keep housing as affordable for a country still suffering from the Depression. Then the post-war boom meant a rush to build as many houses as quickly possible. At the same time, we lost a generation of talented builders and craftsmen who could provide the high quality finishes and touches that could even be found in upper middle class housing, as well as skill in bricklaying and stonemasonry. A lot of them were Italian immigrants, and their children moved into the middle class occupations instead of becoming a builder or carpenter.

High end new builds today are probably as good as housing has ever been since the 1920s, bringing back design and craftsmanship. But they are not cheap!

This is a good understanding of the dynamics of subdivisions. BUT, a high-quality one-off 1930s house slays almost anything from the 1920s. If you had money during the depression, you could have much more choice than you could in the 1920s.

Given this, it would be nice to know what people mean when they claim this place is a gut job. Does the roof leak? Is there plaster crumbling (leaky roof?)? Is the electrical original and therefore dangerous? My guess is that structurally it’s very good, but systems and styles are from probably the 1970s or 1980s.

It probably should be updated, not replaced, but it’s not my place to decide. It’s quite likely after lots of haggling someone will build another mc-something in its place.

I can agree with you in that those lucky enough to be able to build a luxury house in the mid to late 1930s reaped the best of both words, the quality of craftsmanship and materials commonplace in the 1920s with notable improvement in modern conveniences, especially kitchens and bathrooms. At the same time, substantially fewer higher end houses were constructed in this period, really, a fraction of the late 1920s, and one does see a notable decline in UMC housing quality in the late 1930s when the housing market started to pick up. I can immediately spot a 1939 house from a 1929 house in my neighborhood!

I am also intrigued by the poster who said this is a gut. Pictures show a lovingly maintained house, exteriors look solidly maintained. What are we missing?

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in a 1930s mock Tudor and it was amazingly well built. I would have no problem with a well-built Tudor. I’m in a circa 2015 new build colonial and often long for the thick walls and doors and pretty arches of my childhood home. It was plenty bright, too.

If you had walking around money in the 1930s, you could go nuts on materials and labor because things were cheap. Lots of homes built during those years are overbuilt relative to their 1920s or 1940s counterparts.

Furthermore, this place seems like it was put together by someone actually involved in home building. Often builders and developers and others in the industry will put the best stuff in their own houses, making for surprisingly durable structures.

Systems could an altogether matter. Plumbing, electrical, and especially HVAC have changed enough that the when and what of updates are real questions. I'd be very curious about this place's utility bills.

The 20s was probably peak for home construction quality balancing affordability and accessibility. There are entire neighborhoods of lovely 1920s houses in most American cities that are often also still the most desirable neighborhoods.

The housing market collapsed with the depression and why housing quality deteriorated was because developers scaled back on quality as well as size to keep housing as affordable for a country still suffering from the Depression. Then the post-war boom meant a rush to build as many houses as quickly possible. At the same time, we lost a generation of talented builders and craftsmen who could provide the high quality finishes and touches that could even be found in upper middle class housing, as well as skill in bricklaying and stonemasonry. A lot of them were Italian immigrants, and their children moved into the middle class occupations instead of becoming a builder or carpenter.

High end new builds today are probably as good as housing has ever been since the 1920s, bringing back design and craftsmanship. But they are not cheap!

This is a good understanding of the dynamics of subdivisions. BUT, a high-quality one-off 1930s house slays almost anything from the 1920s. If you had money during the depression, you could have much more choice than you could in the 1920s.

Given this, it would be nice to know what people mean when they claim this place is a gut job. Does the roof leak? Is there plaster crumbling (leaky roof?)? Is the electrical original and therefore dangerous? My guess is that structurally it’s very good, but systems and styles are from probably the 1970s or 1980s.

It probably should be updated, not replaced, but it’s not my place to decide. It’s quite likely after lots of haggling someone will build another mc-something in its place.

I can agree with you in that those lucky enough to be able to build a luxury house in the mid to late 1930s reaped the best of both words, the quality of craftsmanship and materials commonplace in the 1920s with notable improvement in modern conveniences, especially kitchens and bathrooms. At the same time, substantially fewer higher end houses were constructed in this period, really, a fraction of the late 1920s, and one does see a notable decline in UMC housing quality in the late 1930s when the housing market started to pick up. I can immediately spot a 1939 house from a 1929 house in my neighborhood!

I am also intrigued by the poster who said this is a gut. Pictures show a lovingly maintained house, exteriors look solidly maintained. What are we missing?

That it's DCUM and there's always someone who hates something.

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This isn’t the kind of home people are looking for these days. Also, it’s not terribly attractive on the inside. While there are some nice features, like the family room with beams, a lot of the rooms are cut in odd shapes, outdated, and mixed with modernist touches. The stark white walls make the place feel emotionally cold, which is echoed by the hard tile floors. Spend your money elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:I could never host my British relatives (like I did last month) because they'd laugh at the faux-Tudor look.

How about this modern Tudor: https://www.redfin.com/MD/Bethesda/8220-Custer-Rd-20817/home/10646809?600390594=copy_variant&231528114=control&utm_source=ios_share&utm_medium=share&utm_nooverride=1&utm_content=link&utm_campaign=share_sheet

No comparison. At all.

I actually love this house.

So do I.

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Anonymous wrote:Tudor’s look dark from the outside and often are from the inside. They are the most difficult type of house to sell after contemporary moderns. The purchaser needs to know that going in. Our neighbor couldn’t sell hers

Oh really? I had no idea and love Tudor homes, can you tell us more about why harder to sell?

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I hope it’s not a sub dividable lot. I’d hate to see the property get purchased by a developer and stuff 2 or 3 or 4 houses in there.

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I love this house. I love the unique layout..no Toll Brothers here. I even love the kitchen. The windows everywhere are a dream come true.

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Houses built between the wars are best quality period

This site attracts a lot of foreigners and people no taste who don’t appreciate homes like this.

I only say this as I sold a beautiful 1923 house with wonder original doors, enclosed porch windows, wood floors, original sconces, we painstakingly redid original windows, new tops, glaze.

We did a FSBO at height of bubble in spring 2005 and had 90 people go through.

Some nationality’s are like rip this out. I recall one guy wanted to rip out the 1923 three sided wall of windows in enclosed front porch and original door to put vinyl windows in. I did that tour I explained porch is not heated and windows are all redone and painted.

Others like Sunday morning NY Times third or fourth generation white wasps Americans like a professor married to an art historian were dying to buy.

A house like this I find is devise. You just need right buyer. Of course I am stereotyping but in the 90 couples the script stayed the same. We sold in a small bidding war between 8 buyers. But 70-80 couples not their cup of tea.

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Anonymous wrote:This isn’t the kind of home people are looking for these days. Also, it’s not terribly attractive on the inside. While there are some nice features, like the family room with beams, a lot of the rooms are cut in odd shapes, outdated, and mixed with modernist touches. The stark white walls make the place feel emotionally cold, which is echoed by the hard tile floors. Spend your money elsewhere.

It's a huge plot of land for that part of town. I can see a buyer just tearing it down and building a really nice house there.

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Anonymous wrote:This isn’t the kind of home people are looking for these days. Also, it’s not terribly attractive on the inside. While there are some nice features, like the family room with beams, a lot of the rooms are cut in odd shapes, outdated, and mixed with modernist touches. The stark white walls make the place feel emotionally cold, which is echoed by the hard tile floors. Spend your money elsewhere.

It's a huge plot of land for that part of town. I can see a buyer just tearing it down and building a really nice house there.

that would be sad, but it happens.

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Folks, I don’t love this house and I think it’s overpriced. But you’re driving me crazy with your ignorance about ponds and mosquitoes. If you put a couple fish in there, and they don’t have to be koi, you will not have any mosquitoes. They feed on larvae.

Go back to third grade and the lesson on food chains.

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Anonymous wrote:Costs at least two million to build a house like that and a one acre plot that close in is worth 1.5 million.

Even has a little pond. You can hate on house but it is worth the price

It would be fun to have a koi pond ...

No. Mosquitoes.

Mosquitoes can be largely controlled, especially with such a small pond.

Not with non-toxic measures!

You, like most of DCUM, need to talk to a lot more folks out of your little world.

-Grey-haired person who has had friends in malaria control looooong before Billy G decided to get involved

PP you replied to. I'm a research biologist, grey-haired person. I know what I'm talking about. I am eagerly waiting for the genetically sterile mosquito release, just like they did in test runs in Florida and California.

So clearly out of your depth on this pond issue.

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The should throw any potential buyers who want to tear it down in that pond

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Meh, the floors are terrible and that kitchen is awful, along with the bathrooms. It shouldn't be priced more than $1.6 million. The grounds are the selling point, everything else could you upgrading and streamlining.