One set of parents from every US kindergarten class most likely will have to bury their child

[Anonymous]

I checked this against US statistics and something is off.

"In 2020, 54% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides (24,292), while 43% were murders (19,384)"
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/02/03/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/

How does that translate into one child in every Kindergarten classroom?

I think someone is gas-lighting...

How much to do want to bet someone will use this as "evidence" for something silly?

[Anonymous]

This is where the FT said they got their 5-year-old data from:

https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D176;jsessionid=53E67C19ECE813F0C0FB96599102

"Survival rates for American five-year-olds in 2021 were calculated using life tables constructed from the US CDC Wonder mortality database. Years of life lost to external causes and to Covid-19 were calculated using deaths by single year of age from CDC Wonder, using period life expectancy for 2019 as a reference point."

That last line is a bit of a kicker. Wasn't 2019 *BEFORE* the Covid vaccine was developed? I would think that would affect the calculations somewhat?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would certainly love to see gun control measures passed but I worry the most about traffic safety. We are a car-obsessed country.

That's a mistake, as gun deaths have now passed traffic deaths as the biggest cause of death for kids. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/12/14/magazine/gun-violence-children-data-statistics.html

If you look at the data, the biggest increase is in gun homicides among Black teens. Tripled since 2013.

Yes, and let's look at Chicago a city which has the most draconian gun control laws, yet experiences the highest incidence of gun violence, especially in the black community. So yes, gun control is a great topic to spout off about but does it really work? Are we then going to take away all the knives and sharp objects? If an evil person, and that's who the nashville shooter women was, wants to cause harm and use physical violence they will find a way. I think it's much better to properly secure our buildings and stop declaring these places as gun free zones which only encourages people like the nashville shooter. She knew it was low on security and she could get in there easily. JFC, let's be smart and protect our children with the technology and knowledge and man power we have, it's easier then you might think. And if society would stop demonizing every single cop as a horrible person our children could find some comfort in their presence. We need to be smarter and pro active, this constant cry about taking legal guns away from legal gun owners is never going to work.

The Nashville school wasn’t a gun free zone. Several staff reportedly were packing, they were “good guys with guns” right there in the school. They did NOTHING. Not like a pistol would have stood a chance against an assault rifle anyways.

But yeah, keep living your Rambo fantasy where kids have to spend all day in Supermax so you don’t have to experience any inconvenience buying your playthings. Obviously your convenient access to your toys should be placed above all other considerations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is where the FT said they got their 5-year-old data from:

https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D176;jsessionid=53E67C19ECE813F0C0FB96599102

"Survival rates for American five-year-olds in 2021 were calculated using life tables constructed from the US CDC Wonder mortality database. Years of life lost to external causes and to Covid-19 were calculated using deaths by single year of age from CDC Wonder, using period life expectancy for 2019 as a reference point."

That last line is a bit of a kicker. Wasn't 2019 *BEFORE* the Covid vaccine was developed? I would think that would affect the calculations somewhat?

That it why it was used as the reference point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would certainly love to see gun control measures passed but I worry the most about traffic safety. We are a car-obsessed country.

That's a mistake, as gun deaths have now passed traffic deaths as the biggest cause of death for kids. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/12/14/magazine/gun-violence-children-data-statistics.html

If you look at the data, the biggest increase is in gun homicides among Black teens. Tripled since 2013.

Yes, and let's look at Chicago a city which has the most draconian gun control laws, yet experiences the highest incidence of gun violence, especially in the black community. So yes, gun control is a great topic to spout off about but does it really work? Are we then going to take away all the knives and sharp objects? If an evil person, and that's who the nashville shooter women was, wants to cause harm and use physical violence they will find a way. I think it's much better to properly secure our buildings and stop declaring these places as gun free zones which only encourages people like the nashville shooter. She knew it was low on security and she could get in there easily. JFC, let's be smart and protect our children with the technology and knowledge and man power we have, it's easier then you might think. And if society would stop demonizing every single cop as a horrible person our children could find some comfort in their presence. We need to be smarter and pro active, this constant cry about taking legal guns away from legal gun owners is never going to work.

The Nashville school wasn’t a gun free zone. Several staff reportedly were packing, they were “good guys with guns” right there in the school. They did NOTHING. Not like a pistol would have stood a chance against an assault rifle anyways.

But yeah, keep living your Rambo fantasy where kids have to spend all day in Supermax so you don’t have to experience any inconvenience buying your playthings. Obviously your convenient access to your toys should be placed above all other considerations.

Cite?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would certainly love to see gun control measures passed but I worry the most about traffic safety. We are a car-obsessed country.

That's a mistake, as gun deaths have now passed traffic deaths as the biggest cause of death for kids. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/12/14/magazine/gun-violence-children-data-statistics.html

If you look at the data, the biggest increase is in gun homicides among Black teens. Tripled since 2013.

Yes, and let's look at Chicago a city which has the most draconian gun control laws, yet experiences the highest incidence of gun violence, especially in the black community. So yes, gun control is a great topic to spout off about but does it really work? Are we then going to take away all the knives and sharp objects? If an evil person, and that's who the nashville shooter women was, wants to cause harm and use physical violence they will find a way. I think it's much better to properly secure our buildings and stop declaring these places as gun free zones which only encourages people like the nashville shooter. She knew it was low on security and she could get in there easily. JFC, let's be smart and protect our children with the technology and knowledge and man power we have, it's easier then you might think. And if society would stop demonizing every single cop as a horrible person our children could find some comfort in their presence. We need to be smarter and pro active, this constant cry about taking legal guns away from legal gun owners is never going to work.

The Nashville school wasn’t a gun free zone. Several staff reportedly were packing, they were “good guys with guns” right there in the school. They did NOTHING. Not like a pistol would have stood a chance against an assault rifle anyways.

But yeah, keep living your Rambo fantasy where kids have to spend all day in Supermax so you don’t have to experience any inconvenience buying your playthings. Obviously your convenient access to your toys should be placed above all other considerations.

The article you are referring to was filled with ‘we thinks’ and ‘we don’t knows’. There were people allowed to carry but staff wasn’t sure who or where or how many. You make it seem like guns were plentiful in the school. They weren’t. High security also deterred the shooter from another school. You left that out