Shazam 2: unnecessary gay character coming out storyline

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Anonymous wrote:What is the deal with TV and movies needing to check every single DEI box? It's gotten preposterous and such a distraction from the basic storytelling.

Shazam 2 was a mediocre movie, but made even more so by the totally unnecessary gay character coming out storyline. It was so clumsy and poorly done, and didn't advance the story at all. C'mon. this is a dumb superhero movie for kids. what is the point?

The point is ideology. Gays are about 3% or so percent of the population, so in a movie with about 10 or so meaningful characters, one would not ordinarily expect to see a gay character just by the luck of the draw. It’s overrepresentation for political purposes where, if done clumsily, it can take you out of the story.

From https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/percentage-lgbtq-adults-us-doubled-decade-gallup-finds-rcna16556

The percent of U.S. adults who identify as something other than heterosexual has doubled over the last 10 years, from 3.5 percent in 2012 to 7.1 percent, according to a Gallup poll released Thursday.

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More than 1 in 5, or 21 percent, of Generation Z adults identify as LGBTQ, Gallup found. That’s almost double the proportion of millennials, who are 26 to 41, at 10.5 percent, and nearly five times the proportion of Generation X, who are 42 to 57, at 4.2 percent. Less than 3 percent of baby boomers, who are 58 to 76, identify as LGBTQ, compared to just 0.8 percent of traditionalists, who are 77 or older.

There is your answer, OP. 21% of Gen Z adults. They are not marketing to old people. They are marketing to Gen Z, and Gen Z is gay as heck.

Give me a break. That's just pure mania and a bunch of young naive people riding trends. They need to make sure they have some kind of identity that's in the oppressed camp, because you better make sure you aren't an oppressor. Gotta make sure you check a DEI box in your college application these days no matter what.

If 20% of people were truly not straight, the human population on Earth would be declining, yet here we are facing an over population crisis.

So what’s your argument here, sunshine? 21% of Gen Z identify as gay, but you don’t think they’re really gay, and therefore movies shouldn’t market to them as if it’s true? Because movie marketing is all about divining the true essence of people’s souls?

Newsflash: marketing departments market to young people (which includes more gay content than you personally think is warranted), because they think that is what will make them money. They do not care that your straight old self finds it annoying. They do not care if those young people are actually really gay.

And no, there wouldn’t necessarily be a human population problem if 20% of people were not straight. A huge percentage of bisexuals eventually end up having children from a heterosexual relationship. And gay people have kids, too. And for what it’s worth, 60% of countries are currently experiencing a population decline (though I don’t for a second think that this is because of The Gays). This has less than nothing to do with the current argument, but I can’t resist pointing out how profoundly illogical it is.

No matter how dumb or wrong you personally think it is, it is a fact that over 20% of Gen Z identifies as not straight. That is the entire answer as to why you see gay people “overrepresented”. They are actually being shown in proportion to the identification of the target demographic, which is not you.

40% of GenZ also think they’ll have 40 year’s of retirement and inky need $1.2M to fund it.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gen-z-is-expecting-a-40-year-retirement-good-luck-experts-say-153042182.html


You can poll GenZ all you want. They’re really dumb and young. They probably date straight but check the box on forms and polls as being bisexual because ‘maybe it is possible one day’ when in fact they’ll never date the same sex in their lives.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the deal with TV and movies needing to check every single DEI box? It's gotten preposterous and such a distraction from the basic storytelling.

Shazam 2 was a mediocre movie, but made even more so by the totally unnecessary gay character coming out storyline. It was so clumsy and poorly done, and didn't advance the story at all. C'mon. this is a dumb superhero movie for kids. what is the point?

The point is ideology. Gays are about 3% or so percent of the population, so in a movie with about 10 or so meaningful characters, one would not ordinarily expect to see a gay character just by the luck of the draw. It’s overrepresentation for political purposes where, if done clumsily, it can take you out of the story.

From https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/percentage-lgbtq-adults-us-doubled-decade-gallup-finds-rcna16556

The percent of U.S. adults who identify as something other than heterosexual has doubled over the last 10 years, from 3.5 percent in 2012 to 7.1 percent, according to a Gallup poll released Thursday.

…

More than 1 in 5, or 21 percent, of Generation Z adults identify as LGBTQ, Gallup found. That’s almost double the proportion of millennials, who are 26 to 41, at 10.5 percent, and nearly five times the proportion of Generation X, who are 42 to 57, at 4.2 percent. Less than 3 percent of baby boomers, who are 58 to 76, identify as LGBTQ, compared to just 0.8 percent of traditionalists, who are 77 or older.

There is your answer, OP. 21% of Gen Z adults. They are not marketing to old people. They are marketing to Gen Z, and Gen Z is gay as heck.

Give me a break. That's just pure mania and a bunch of young naive people riding trends. They need to make sure they have some kind of identity that's in the oppressed camp, because you better make sure you aren't an oppressor. Gotta make sure you check a DEI box in your college application these days no matter what.

If 20% of people were truly not straight, the human population on Earth would be declining, yet here we are facing an over population crisis.

So what’s your argument here, sunshine? 21% of Gen Z identify as gay, but you don’t think they’re really gay, and therefore movies shouldn’t market to them as if it’s true? Because movie marketing is all about divining the true essence of people’s souls?

Newsflash: marketing departments market to young people (which includes more gay content than you personally think is warranted), because they think that is what will make them money. They do not care that your straight old self finds it annoying. They do not care if those young people are actually really gay.

And no, there wouldn’t necessarily be a human population problem if 20% of people were not straight. A huge percentage of bisexuals eventually end up having children from a heterosexual relationship. And gay people have kids, too. And for what it’s worth, 60% of countries are currently experiencing a population decline (though I don’t for a second think that this is because of The Gays). This has less than nothing to do with the current argument, but I can’t resist pointing out how profoundly illogical it is.

No matter how dumb or wrong you personally think it is, it is a fact that over 20% of Gen Z identifies as not straight. That is the entire answer as to why you see gay people “overrepresented”. They are actually being shown in proportion to the identification of the target demographic, which is not you.

40% of GenZ also think they’ll have 40 year’s of retirement and inky need $1.2M to fund it.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gen-z-is-expecting-a-40-year-retirement-good-luck-experts-say-153042182.html


You can poll GenZ all you want. They’re really dumb and young. They probably date straight but check the box on forms and polls as being bisexual because ‘maybe it is possible one day’ when in fact they’ll never date the same sex in their lives.

So? They may be dumb and they may be young, but they are the market that is being targeted. No matter how illegitimate you consider their opinions, they still exist.

And that is why you are seeing so many gay characters. It’s not some sinister woke conspiracy to groom children for sex slavery. It’s marketing. Marketers decide what demographics they want to target. If the demographic they want to target is GenZ, you would expect to see around 1 in 5 characters being gay. It’s not more complicated than that.

Essentially, you’re just upset that your demographic is not the target demographic for… Shazam 2.

You’ll live.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not coming out when it’s always been clear.

Patrick and sponge bob are gay too.

And Bert and Ernie

And Thelma

It’s not new to us who see.

No, Patrick and Spongebob are not gay lovers. They may be gay, but they are best friends first. Friendship is magic! If anything Spongebob is asexual and Patrick is gay.

Why do bigots immediately want to know what’s going on inside everybody’s bed. They’re gay live with it.

I don't agree with OP and I do think representation in media is important but it is also important to represent male friendship in movies. Making it so every set of best male friends is an auto read of gay is pretty damaging to men, who may then struggle to see healthy representations of male friendship in media.

It's important to feature gay relationships! It is also important to feature male friendship! Just like its important to feature non romantic male/female friendship.

This is a very good point. It would be so refreshing to see a movie with male and female leads who were just friends, with no romantic subplot attached. I honestly don’t think I can come up with one movie where this was the case.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. When is it “necessary “ for a character to be gay?

That character was fat inclusive and they had the main as a disabled inclusive kid they also has the diverse family with one Asian parent and one Hispanic parent who adopted Asian Latino black and white kids. They made the movie as inclusive as could be to the point it was eye rolling.

OP, I feel like you could probably make the same complaint about older movies like “The Bad News Bears” or “The Goonies”. Why do you think it worked for those movies but not this one?

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Anonymous wrote:What is the deal with TV and movies needing to check every single DEI box? It's gotten preposterous and such a distraction from the basic storytelling.

Shazam 2 was a mediocre movie, but made even more so by the totally unnecessary gay character coming out storyline. It was so clumsy and poorly done, and didn't advance the story at all. C'mon. this is a dumb superhero movie for kids. what is the point?

The point is ideology. Gays are about 3% or so percent of the population, so in a movie with about 10 or so meaningful characters, one would not ordinarily expect to see a gay character just by the luck of the draw. It’s overrepresentation for political purposes where, if done clumsily, it can take you out of the story.

From https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/percentage-lgbtq-adults-us-doubled-decade-gallup-finds-rcna16556

The percent of U.S. adults who identify as something other than heterosexual has doubled over the last 10 years, from 3.5 percent in 2012 to 7.1 percent, according to a Gallup poll released Thursday.

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More than 1 in 5, or 21 percent, of Generation Z adults identify as LGBTQ, Gallup found. That’s almost double the proportion of millennials, who are 26 to 41, at 10.5 percent, and nearly five times the proportion of Generation X, who are 42 to 57, at 4.2 percent. Less than 3 percent of baby boomers, who are 58 to 76, identify as LGBTQ, compared to just 0.8 percent of traditionalists, who are 77 or older.

There is your answer, OP. 21% of Gen Z adults. They are not marketing to old people. They are marketing to Gen Z, and Gen Z is gay as heck.

Give me a break. That's just pure mania and a bunch of young naive people riding trends. They need to make sure they have some kind of identity that's in the oppressed camp, because you better make sure you aren't an oppressor. Gotta make sure you check a DEI box in your college application these days no matter what.

If 20% of people were truly not straight, the human population on Earth would be declining, yet here we are facing an over population crisis.

So what’s your argument here, sunshine? 21% of Gen Z identify as gay, but you don’t think they’re really gay, and therefore movies shouldn’t market to them as if it’s true? Because movie marketing is all about divining the true essence of people’s souls?

Newsflash: marketing departments market to young people (which includes more gay content than you personally think is warranted), because they think that is what will make them money. They do not care that your straight old self finds it annoying. They do not care if those young people are actually really gay.

And no, there wouldn’t necessarily be a human population problem if 20% of people were not straight. A huge percentage of bisexuals eventually end up having children from a heterosexual relationship. And gay people have kids, too. And for what it’s worth, 60% of countries are currently experiencing a population decline (though I don’t for a second think that this is because of The Gays). This has less than nothing to do with the current argument, but I can’t resist pointing out how profoundly illogical it is.

No matter how dumb or wrong you personally think it is, it is a fact that over 20% of Gen Z identifies as not straight. That is the entire answer as to why you see gay people “overrepresented”. They are actually being shown in proportion to the identification of the target demographic, which is not you.

40% of GenZ also think they’ll have 40 year’s of retirement and inky need $1.2M to fund it.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gen-z-is-expecting-a-40-year-retirement-good-luck-experts-say-153042182.html


You can poll GenZ all you want. They’re really dumb and young. They probably date straight but check the box on forms and polls as being bisexual because ‘maybe it is possible one day’ when in fact they’ll never date the same sex in their lives.

So? They may be dumb and they may be young, but they are the market that is being targeted. No matter how illegitimate you consider their opinions, they still exist.

And that is why you are seeing so many gay characters. It’s not some sinister woke conspiracy to groom children for sex slavery. It’s marketing. Marketers decide what demographics they want to target. If the demographic they want to target is GenZ, you would expect to see around 1 in 5 characters being gay. It’s not more complicated than that.

Essentially, you’re just upset that your demographic is not the target demographic for… Shazam 2.

You’ll live.

+1. Your arguments make sense to everyone but out of touch old f**ks like PP. They probably don’t know even 1 young person and base their silly predictions on past behaviors. They’re basically waiting for the sweet release of death while sliding deeper into irrelevance.

And that’s hilarious to bring up overpopulation. Population in Asia and Africa is increasing but dropping like a rock in US/Europe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the deal with TV and movies needing to check every single DEI box? It's gotten preposterous and such a distraction from the basic storytelling.

Shazam 2 was a mediocre movie, but made even more so by the totally unnecessary gay character coming out storyline. It was so clumsy and poorly done, and didn't advance the story at all. C'mon. this is a dumb superhero movie for kids. what is the point?

The point is ideology. Gays are about 3% or so percent of the population, so in a movie with about 10 or so meaningful characters, one would not ordinarily expect to see a gay character just by the luck of the draw. It’s overrepresentation for political purposes where, if done clumsily, it can take you out of the story.

From https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/percentage-lgbtq-adults-us-doubled-decade-gallup-finds-rcna16556

The percent of U.S. adults who identify as something other than heterosexual has doubled over the last 10 years, from 3.5 percent in 2012 to 7.1 percent, according to a Gallup poll released Thursday.

…

More than 1 in 5, or 21 percent, of Generation Z adults identify as LGBTQ, Gallup found. That’s almost double the proportion of millennials, who are 26 to 41, at 10.5 percent, and nearly five times the proportion of Generation X, who are 42 to 57, at 4.2 percent. Less than 3 percent of baby boomers, who are 58 to 76, identify as LGBTQ, compared to just 0.8 percent of traditionalists, who are 77 or older.

There is your answer, OP. 21% of Gen Z adults. They are not marketing to old people. They are marketing to Gen Z, and Gen Z is gay as heck.

Give me a break. That's just pure mania and a bunch of young naive people riding trends. They need to make sure they have some kind of identity that's in the oppressed camp, because you better make sure you aren't an oppressor. Gotta make sure you check a DEI box in your college application these days no matter what.

If 20% of people were truly not straight, the human population on Earth would be declining, yet here we are facing an over population crisis.

So what’s your argument here, sunshine? 21% of Gen Z identify as gay, but you don’t think they’re really gay, and therefore movies shouldn’t market to them as if it’s true? Because movie marketing is all about divining the true essence of people’s souls?

Newsflash: marketing departments market to young people (which includes more gay content than you personally think is warranted), because they think that is what will make them money. They do not care that your straight old self finds it annoying. They do not care if those young people are actually really gay.

And no, there wouldn’t necessarily be a human population problem if 20% of people were not straight. A huge percentage of bisexuals eventually end up having children from a heterosexual relationship. And gay people have kids, too. And for what it’s worth, 60% of countries are currently experiencing a population decline (though I don’t for a second think that this is because of The Gays). This has less than nothing to do with the current argument, but I can’t resist pointing out how profoundly illogical it is.

No matter how dumb or wrong you personally think it is, it is a fact that over 20% of Gen Z identifies as not straight. That is the entire answer as to why you see gay people “overrepresented”. They are actually being shown in proportion to the identification of the target demographic, which is not you.

40% of GenZ also think they’ll have 40 year’s of retirement and inky need $1.2M to fund it.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gen-z-is-expecting-a-40-year-retirement-good-luck-experts-say-153042182.html


You can poll GenZ all you want. They’re really dumb and young. They probably date straight but check the box on forms and polls as being bisexual because ‘maybe it is possible one day’ when in fact they’ll never date the same sex in their lives.

So? They may be dumb and they may be young, but they are the market that is being targeted. No matter how illegitimate you consider their opinions, they still exist.

And that is why you are seeing so many gay characters. It’s not some sinister woke conspiracy to groom children for sex slavery. It’s marketing. Marketers decide what demographics they want to target. If the demographic they want to target is GenZ, you would expect to see around 1 in 5 characters being gay. It’s not more complicated than that.

Essentially, you’re just upset that your demographic is not the target demographic for… Shazam 2.

You’ll live.

And yet Shazam 2 was and utter disaster at the box office.

So much pandering to identities people aren't really a part of and therefore don't show up to the box office. Where's that 20% you claim to support seeing themselves at the BO?

Elemental just tried the same and it was another BO disaster.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the deal with TV and movies needing to check every single DEI box? It's gotten preposterous and such a distraction from the basic storytelling.

Shazam 2 was a mediocre movie, but made even more so by the totally unnecessary gay character coming out storyline. It was so clumsy and poorly done, and didn't advance the story at all. C'mon. this is a dumb superhero movie for kids. what is the point?

The point is ideology. Gays are about 3% or so percent of the population, so in a movie with about 10 or so meaningful characters, one would not ordinarily expect to see a gay character just by the luck of the draw. It’s overrepresentation for political purposes where, if done clumsily, it can take you out of the story.

From https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/percentage-lgbtq-adults-us-doubled-decade-gallup-finds-rcna16556

The percent of U.S. adults who identify as something other than heterosexual has doubled over the last 10 years, from 3.5 percent in 2012 to 7.1 percent, according to a Gallup poll released Thursday.

…

More than 1 in 5, or 21 percent, of Generation Z adults identify as LGBTQ, Gallup found. That’s almost double the proportion of millennials, who are 26 to 41, at 10.5 percent, and nearly five times the proportion of Generation X, who are 42 to 57, at 4.2 percent. Less than 3 percent of baby boomers, who are 58 to 76, identify as LGBTQ, compared to just 0.8 percent of traditionalists, who are 77 or older.

There is your answer, OP. 21% of Gen Z adults. They are not marketing to old people. They are marketing to Gen Z, and Gen Z is gay as heck.

Give me a break. That's just pure mania and a bunch of young naive people riding trends. They need to make sure they have some kind of identity that's in the oppressed camp, because you better make sure you aren't an oppressor. Gotta make sure you check a DEI box in your college application these days no matter what.

If 20% of people were truly not straight, the human population on Earth would be declining, yet here we are facing an over population crisis.

So what’s your argument here, sunshine? 21% of Gen Z identify as gay, but you don’t think they’re really gay, and therefore movies shouldn’t market to them as if it’s true? Because movie marketing is all about divining the true essence of people’s souls?

Newsflash: marketing departments market to young people (which includes more gay content than you personally think is warranted), because they think that is what will make them money. They do not care that your straight old self finds it annoying. They do not care if those young people are actually really gay.

And no, there wouldn’t necessarily be a human population problem if 20% of people were not straight. A huge percentage of bisexuals eventually end up having children from a heterosexual relationship. And gay people have kids, too. And for what it’s worth, 60% of countries are currently experiencing a population decline (though I don’t for a second think that this is because of The Gays). This has less than nothing to do with the current argument, but I can’t resist pointing out how profoundly illogical it is.

No matter how dumb or wrong you personally think it is, it is a fact that over 20% of Gen Z identifies as not straight. That is the entire answer as to why you see gay people “overrepresented”. They are actually being shown in proportion to the identification of the target demographic, which is not you.

40% of GenZ also think they’ll have 40 year’s of retirement and inky need $1.2M to fund it.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gen-z-is-expecting-a-40-year-retirement-good-luck-experts-say-153042182.html


You can poll GenZ all you want. They’re really dumb and young. They probably date straight but check the box on forms and polls as being bisexual because ‘maybe it is possible one day’ when in fact they’ll never date the same sex in their lives.

So? They may be dumb and they may be young, but they are the market that is being targeted. No matter how illegitimate you consider their opinions, they still exist.

And that is why you are seeing so many gay characters. It’s not some sinister woke conspiracy to groom children for sex slavery. It’s marketing. Marketers decide what demographics they want to target. If the demographic they want to target is GenZ, you would expect to see around 1 in 5 characters being gay. It’s not more complicated than that.

Essentially, you’re just upset that your demographic is not the target demographic for… Shazam 2.

You’ll live.

And yet Shazam 2 was and utter disaster at the box office.

So much pandering to identities people aren't really a part of and therefore don't show up to the box office. Where's that 20% you claim to support seeing themselves at the BO?

Elemental just tried the same and it was another BO disaster.

Are you suggesting that all movies with only heterosexual/white characters are hits at the box office? Because that is not my experience.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the deal with TV and movies needing to check every single DEI box? It's gotten preposterous and such a distraction from the basic storytelling.

Shazam 2 was a mediocre movie, but made even more so by the totally unnecessary gay character coming out storyline. It was so clumsy and poorly done, and didn't advance the story at all. C'mon. this is a dumb superhero movie for kids. what is the point?

The point is ideology. Gays are about 3% or so percent of the population, so in a movie with about 10 or so meaningful characters, one would not ordinarily expect to see a gay character just by the luck of the draw. It’s overrepresentation for political purposes where, if done clumsily, it can take you out of the story.

From https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/percentage-lgbtq-adults-us-doubled-decade-gallup-finds-rcna16556

The percent of U.S. adults who identify as something other than heterosexual has doubled over the last 10 years, from 3.5 percent in 2012 to 7.1 percent, according to a Gallup poll released Thursday.

…

More than 1 in 5, or 21 percent, of Generation Z adults identify as LGBTQ, Gallup found. That’s almost double the proportion of millennials, who are 26 to 41, at 10.5 percent, and nearly five times the proportion of Generation X, who are 42 to 57, at 4.2 percent. Less than 3 percent of baby boomers, who are 58 to 76, identify as LGBTQ, compared to just 0.8 percent of traditionalists, who are 77 or older.

There is your answer, OP. 21% of Gen Z adults. They are not marketing to old people. They are marketing to Gen Z, and Gen Z is gay as heck.

Give me a break. That's just pure mania and a bunch of young naive people riding trends. They need to make sure they have some kind of identity that's in the oppressed camp, because you better make sure you aren't an oppressor. Gotta make sure you check a DEI box in your college application these days no matter what.

If 20% of people were truly not straight, the human population on Earth would be declining, yet here we are facing an over population crisis.

So what’s your argument here, sunshine? 21% of Gen Z identify as gay, but you don’t think they’re really gay, and therefore movies shouldn’t market to them as if it’s true? Because movie marketing is all about divining the true essence of people’s souls?

Newsflash: marketing departments market to young people (which includes more gay content than you personally think is warranted), because they think that is what will make them money. They do not care that your straight old self finds it annoying. They do not care if those young people are actually really gay.

And no, there wouldn’t necessarily be a human population problem if 20% of people were not straight. A huge percentage of bisexuals eventually end up having children from a heterosexual relationship. And gay people have kids, too. And for what it’s worth, 60% of countries are currently experiencing a population decline (though I don’t for a second think that this is because of The Gays). This has less than nothing to do with the current argument, but I can’t resist pointing out how profoundly illogical it is.

No matter how dumb or wrong you personally think it is, it is a fact that over 20% of Gen Z identifies as not straight. That is the entire answer as to why you see gay people “overrepresented”. They are actually being shown in proportion to the identification of the target demographic, which is not you.

40% of GenZ also think they’ll have 40 year’s of retirement and inky need $1.2M to fund it.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gen-z-is-expecting-a-40-year-retirement-good-luck-experts-say-153042182.html


You can poll GenZ all you want. They’re really dumb and young. They probably date straight but check the box on forms and polls as being bisexual because ‘maybe it is possible one day’ when in fact they’ll never date the same sex in their lives.

So? They may be dumb and they may be young, but they are the market that is being targeted. No matter how illegitimate you consider their opinions, they still exist.

And that is why you are seeing so many gay characters. It’s not some sinister woke conspiracy to groom children for sex slavery. It’s marketing. Marketers decide what demographics they want to target. If the demographic they want to target is GenZ, you would expect to see around 1 in 5 characters being gay. It’s not more complicated than that.

Essentially, you’re just upset that your demographic is not the target demographic for… Shazam 2.

You’ll live.

And yet Shazam 2 was and utter disaster at the box office.

So much pandering to identities people aren't really a part of and therefore don't show up to the box office. Where's that 20% you claim to support seeing themselves at the BO?

Elemental just tried the same and it was another BO disaster.

"BO disaster" is DCEU's brand

2023 top box office:

Super Mario Bros -- largely not human, but undiverse casting and human chacters

Guardians of the Galaxy - aliens and monsters

Spiderman across the Multiverse - forced diversity is the core plot.

Avatar 2 - blue aliens

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the deal with TV and movies needing to check every single DEI box? It's gotten preposterous and such a distraction from the basic storytelling.

Shazam 2 was a mediocre movie, but made even more so by the totally unnecessary gay character coming out storyline. It was so clumsy and poorly done, and didn't advance the story at all. C'mon. this is a dumb superhero movie for kids. what is the point?

I get it, OP. I hate it when movies have unnecessary heterosexual relationships. Yuck.

Yep,so sick of media pushing the hetero agenda. These relationships can exist I guess but they don't need to be shoved down our throats!

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Anonymous wrote:What is the deal with TV and movies needing to check every single DEI box? It's gotten preposterous and such a distraction from the basic storytelling.

Shazam 2 was a mediocre movie, but made even more so by the totally unnecessary gay character coming out storyline. It was so clumsy and poorly done, and didn't advance the story at all. C'mon. this is a dumb superhero movie for kids. what is the point?

The point is ideology. Gays are about 3% or so percent of the population, so in a movie with about 10 or so meaningful characters, one would not ordinarily expect to see a gay character just by the luck of the draw. It’s overrepresentation for political purposes where, if done clumsily, it can take you out of the story.

From https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/percentage-lgbtq-adults-us-doubled-decade-gallup-finds-rcna16556

The percent of U.S. adults who identify as something other than heterosexual has doubled over the last 10 years, from 3.5 percent in 2012 to 7.1 percent, according to a Gallup poll released Thursday.

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More than 1 in 5, or 21 percent, of Generation Z adults identify as LGBTQ, Gallup found. That’s almost double the proportion of millennials, who are 26 to 41, at 10.5 percent, and nearly five times the proportion of Generation X, who are 42 to 57, at 4.2 percent. Less than 3 percent of baby boomers, who are 58 to 76, identify as LGBTQ, compared to just 0.8 percent of traditionalists, who are 77 or older.

There is your answer, OP. 21% of Gen Z adults. They are not marketing to old people. They are marketing to Gen Z, and Gen Z is gay as heck.

Give me a break. That's just pure mania and a bunch of young naive people riding trends. They need to make sure they have some kind of identity that's in the oppressed camp, because you better make sure you aren't an oppressor. Gotta make sure you check a DEI box in your college application these days no matter what.

If 20% of people were truly not straight, the human population on Earth would be declining, yet here we are facing an over population crisis.

So what’s your argument here, sunshine? 21% of Gen Z identify as gay, but you don’t think they’re really gay, and therefore movies shouldn’t market to them as if it’s true? Because movie marketing is all about divining the true essence of people’s souls?

Newsflash: marketing departments market to young people (which includes more gay content than you personally think is warranted), because they think that is what will make them money. They do not care that your straight old self finds it annoying. They do not care if those young people are actually really gay.

And no, there wouldn’t necessarily be a human population problem if 20% of people were not straight. A huge percentage of bisexuals eventually end up having children from a heterosexual relationship. And gay people have kids, too. And for what it’s worth, 60% of countries are currently experiencing a population decline (though I don’t for a second think that this is because of The Gays). This has less than nothing to do with the current argument, but I can’t resist pointing out how profoundly illogical it is.

No matter how dumb or wrong you personally think it is, it is a fact that over 20% of Gen Z identifies as not straight. That is the entire answer as to why you see gay people “overrepresented”. They are actually being shown in proportion to the identification of the target demographic, which is not you.

40% of GenZ also think they’ll have 40 year’s of retirement and inky need $1.2M to fund it.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gen-z-is-expecting-a-40-year-retirement-good-luck-experts-say-153042182.html


You can poll GenZ all you want. They’re really dumb and young. They probably date straight but check the box on forms and polls as being bisexual because ‘maybe it is possible one day’ when in fact they’ll never date the same sex in their lives.

So? They may be dumb and they may be young, but they are the market that is being targeted. No matter how illegitimate you consider their opinions, they still exist.

And that is why you are seeing so many gay characters. It’s not some sinister woke conspiracy to groom children for sex slavery. It’s marketing. Marketers decide what demographics they want to target. If the demographic they want to target is GenZ, you would expect to see around 1 in 5 characters being gay. It’s not more complicated than that.

Essentially, you’re just upset that your demographic is not the target demographic for… Shazam 2.

You’ll live.

And yet Shazam 2 was and utter disaster at the box office.

So much pandering to identities people aren't really a part of and therefore don't show up to the box office. Where's that 20% you claim to support seeing themselves at the BO?

Elemental just tried the same and it was another BO disaster.

"BO disaster" is DCEU's brand

2023 top box office:

Super Mario Bros -- largely not human, but undiverse casting and human chacters

Guardians of the Galaxy - aliens and monsters

Spiderman across the Multiverse - forced diversity is the core plot.

Avatar 2 - blue aliens

Way too accurate. Believe me, if DC could solve their problems by eliminating all gay characters they would!