APS 12-month employees at central office get 31 paid holidays plus 14-40+ days of leave

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Anonymous wrote:What about school principals? Are they paid on 12-month salaries with all this vacation or contracts like teachers?


Yes, 12 month employees that are school-based include principals, Assistant principals and Instructional Technology Coordinators (ITC). There’s no reason why an ITC needs to be 12 month, seems excessive. Assistant principals could probably be 11 month easily, like neighboring Alexandria.


That seems strange to me. What are principals doing at work during the time when teachers are off (like summer)?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about school principals? Are they paid on 12-month salaries with all this vacation or contracts like teachers?


Yes, 12 month employees that are school-based include principals, Assistant principals and Instructional Technology Coordinators (ITC). There’s no reason why an ITC needs to be 12 month, seems excessive. Assistant principals could probably be 11 month easily, like neighboring Alexandria.


That seems strange to me. What are principals doing at work during the time when teachers are off (like summer)?


A lot of principals take their accrued leave for trips in the summer, but their work is mostly around planning and preparing and I guess hiring? Assistant principals are the building administrators for few schools that host summer school, so principals have it pretty easy.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about school principals? Are they paid on 12-month salaries with all this vacation or contracts like teachers?


Yes, 12 month employees that are school-based include principals, Assistant principals and Instructional Technology Coordinators (ITC). There’s no reason why an ITC needs to be 12 month, seems excessive. Assistant principals could probably be 11 month easily, like neighboring Alexandria.


That seems strange to me. What are principals doing at work during the time when teachers are off (like summer)?


A lot of principals take their accrued leave for trips in the summer, but their work is mostly around planning and preparing and I guess hiring? Assistant principals are the building administrators for few schools that host summer school, so principals have it pretty easy.


Dang, I picked the wrong job.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about school principals? Are they paid on 12-month salaries with all this vacation or contracts like teachers?


Yes, 12 month employees that are school-based include principals, Assistant principals and Instructional Technology Coordinators (ITC). There’s no reason why an ITC needs to be 12 month, seems excessive. Assistant principals could probably be 11 month easily, like neighboring Alexandria.


When do you think ITC are working on system upgrades and larger-scale maintenance?
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Anonymous wrote:They get all the days when teachers are off, (think Diwali, Jewish holidays, etc.) plus 2 week winter break and 1 week spring break, all paid for. Teachers on the other hand, do not get paid during those breaks.


And this is not the norm for employees that accrue leave (as they do). This was new under Duran. Also- someone from central office is obviously on this thread. For every five I’ve met, any teacher does the work of four of them. Syphax is a s—t show, and, yes, teachers in APS are very pissed off about it.


School board should conduct a survey to ask teachers what they think of Syphax, if they actually care about teachers who are at the front line
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Syphax= Ivory Tower... the majority of Syphax people (look for the Rothy's) haven't been inside a school building in years, long before covid. Teachers are sick of them and all the trumped up busy work they throw at teachers in the schools. They certainly didn't come back to work when the rest of us did; Syphax is like a ghost town with a lot of them "working from home" and calling it in. The fact that they are given paid leave is sickening considering what is happening in understaffed, over capacity classrooms filled with highly stressed, needy students. Can't wait to be done with all of them. I hope they are reading this and get a clue how much they are despised.
Signed, longtime APS teacher


This is all 100 percent true. I’m a teacher who goes to Syphax 1-2 times a month for meetings. It’s literally a ghost town, especially on Fridays. I’ve also spoken to a few central office staff members who have outright said they were working at home for an afternoon. APS has come out many months ago and stated that working from home was no longer a thing, but it’s clearly being done under the radar. I know the Syphax staff members aren’t in school buildings, because I’m in a school building, and always have been and never see them. I don’t necessary fault the employees, but rather the system that’s created this inequity. School based staff do not think highly of most central office staff and can validate that the more staff members added centrally, the more work school based staff have put on them (with little to no benefit for students). Something needs to change and I’m very happy this is becoming a public discussion.

We get visitors from syphax regularly but are also very close
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about school principals? Are they paid on 12-month salaries with all this vacation or contracts like teachers?


Yes, 12 month employees that are school-based include principals, Assistant principals and Instructional Technology Coordinators (ITC). There’s no reason why an ITC needs to be 12 month, seems excessive. Assistant principals could probably be 11 month easily, like neighboring Alexandria.


That seems strange to me. What are principals doing at work during the time when teachers are off (like summer)?


A lot of principals take their accrued leave for trips in the summer, but their work is mostly around planning and preparing and I guess hiring? Assistant principals are the building administrators for few schools that host summer school, so principals have it pretty easy.


Dang, I picked the wrong job.


Really, you think being the principal of a school is an easy job that you could coast through? Wrangling with parents through their kids IEP meetings? In person meetings with dissatisfied parents, or teachers? Making everyday decisions about what's allowed and what's not? Dealing with PR when a kid or teacher at your school does something awful?

I've been in some tense meetings with principals over the years and I can see that they are on the hook for protecting the school district and perhaps not individual children. I don't want that job, and I'm not kidding myself that it's easy, either. You are making your own daily decisions, but also towing the line for the school district's decisions which you may or may not personally believe in. Good luck to anyone who can stomach doing that for 20 years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about school principals? Are they paid on 12-month salaries with all this vacation or contracts like teachers?


Yes, 12 month employees that are school-based include principals, Assistant principals and Instructional Technology Coordinators (ITC). There’s no reason why an ITC needs to be 12 month, seems excessive. Assistant principals could probably be 11 month easily, like neighboring Alexandria.


When do you think ITC are working on system upgrades and larger-scale maintenance?


Actually, ITCs will no longer work on system upgrades or any maintenance (large or small scale). If you haven’t heard, they are now ONLY report to Syphax, not building principal. ITCs are no longer what you think of ITC should do, they are now “coaches” who observe lessons and teach teachers how to use technology to teach. Another example of people leaving student-facing positions and go work at Syphax. Next time your kids need iPad repair or anything tech related, expect loooong delays, and don’t dare to bother those ITCs, they are now “instructional coaches” and are way too important for such pathetic task, not even the principals can ask them to do those things.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about school principals? Are they paid on 12-month salaries with all this vacation or contracts like teachers?


Yes, 12 month employees that are school-based include principals, Assistant principals and Instructional Technology Coordinators (ITC). There’s no reason why an ITC needs to be 12 month, seems excessive. Assistant principals could probably be 11 month easily, like neighboring Alexandria.


When do you think ITC are working on system upgrades and larger-scale maintenance?


Actually, ITCs will no longer work on system upgrades or any maintenance (large or small scale). If you haven’t heard, they are now ONLY report to Syphax, not building principal. ITCs are no longer what you think of ITC should do, they are now “coaches” who observe lessons and teach teachers how to use technology to teach. Another example of people leaving student-facing positions and go work at Syphax. Next time your kids need iPad repair or anything tech related, expect loooong delays, and don’t dare to bother those ITCs, they are now “instructional coaches” and are way too important for such pathetic task, not even the principals can ask them to do those things.



It doesn’t make sense for an ITC to be 12 month then, if math and reading coaches are T-Scale (10 month) employees. If an ITC is needed in each summer school building, that makes sense, but then they should be receiving summer school pay like other teachers and coaches.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about school principals? Are they paid on 12-month salaries with all this vacation or contracts like teachers?


Yes, 12 month employees that are school-based include principals, Assistant principals and Instructional Technology Coordinators (ITC). There’s no reason why an ITC needs to be 12 month, seems excessive. Assistant principals could probably be 11 month easily, like neighboring Alexandria.


That seems strange to me. What are principals doing at work during the time when teachers are off (like summer)?


A lot of principals take their accrued leave for trips in the summer, but their work is mostly around planning and preparing and I guess hiring? Assistant principals are the building administrators for few schools that host summer school, so principals have it pretty easy.


Dang, I picked the wrong job.


Really, you think being the principal of a school is an easy job that you could coast through? Wrangling with parents through their kids IEP meetings? In person meetings with dissatisfied parents, or teachers? Making everyday decisions about what's allowed and what's not? Dealing with PR when a kid or teacher at your school does something awful?

I've been in some tense meetings with principals over the years and I can see that they are on the hook for protecting the school district and perhaps not individual children. I don't want that job, and I'm not kidding myself that it's easy, either. You are making your own daily decisions, but also towing the line for the school district's decisions which you may or may not personally believe in. Good luck to anyone who can stomach doing that for 20 years.


Agree 100 percent! Couldn’t pay be enough money to be a school principal. Mucho respect for what the do and the crap they deal with.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about school principals? Are they paid on 12-month salaries with all this vacation or contracts like teachers?


Yes, 12 month employees that are school-based include principals, Assistant principals and Instructional Technology Coordinators (ITC). There’s no reason why an ITC needs to be 12 month, seems excessive. Assistant principals could probably be 11 month easily, like neighboring Alexandria.


When do you think ITC are working on system upgrades and larger-scale maintenance?


Actually, ITCs will no longer work on system upgrades or any maintenance (large or small scale). If you haven’t heard, they are now ONLY report to Syphax, not building principal. ITCs are no longer what you think of ITC should do, they are now “coaches” who observe lessons and teach teachers how to use technology to teach. Another example of people leaving student-facing positions and go work at Syphax. Next time your kids need iPad repair or anything tech related, expect loooong delays, and don’t dare to bother those ITCs, they are now “instructional coaches” and are way too important for such pathetic task, not even the principals can ask them to do those things.



It doesn’t make sense for an ITC to be 12 month then, if math and reading coaches are T-Scale (10 month) employees. If an ITC is needed in each summer school building, that makes sense, but then they should be receiving summer school pay like other teachers and coaches.


Math and reading coaches all are 10-month T scale and report to building principal which makes sense. ITCs are now coaches, still 12-month employees but they report to Syphax. How can Syphax supervise those ITC coaches effectively?! Or is this all for a show?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about school principals? Are they paid on 12-month salaries with all this vacation or contracts like teachers?


Yes, 12 month employees that are school-based include principals, Assistant principals and Instructional Technology Coordinators (ITC). There’s no reason why an ITC needs to be 12 month, seems excessive. Assistant principals could probably be 11 month easily, like neighboring Alexandria.


That seems strange to me. What are principals doing at work during the time when teachers are off (like summer)?


A lot of principals take their accrued leave for trips in the summer, but their work is mostly around planning and preparing and I guess hiring? Assistant principals are the building administrators for few schools that host summer school, so principals have it pretty easy.


How dare they take a break during summer? With such an easy job they shouldn’t be allowed to take a vacation at all, or have families, or raise kids, let alone get sick!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about school principals? Are they paid on 12-month salaries with all this vacation or contracts like teachers?


Yes, 12 month employees that are school-based include principals, Assistant principals and Instructional Technology Coordinators (ITC). There’s no reason why an ITC needs to be 12 month, seems excessive. Assistant principals could probably be 11 month easily, like neighboring Alexandria.


That seems strange to me. What are principals doing at work during the time when teachers are off (like summer)?


A lot of principals take their accrued leave for trips in the summer, but their work is mostly around planning and preparing and I guess hiring? Assistant principals are the building administrators for few schools that host summer school, so principals have it pretty easy.


How dare they take a break during summer? With such an easy job they shouldn’t be allowed to take a vacation at all, or have families, or raise kids, let alone get sick!


I think this also describes how many DCUM posters feel about teachers
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about school principals? Are they paid on 12-month salaries with all this vacation or contracts like teachers?


Yes, 12 month employees that are school-based include principals, Assistant principals and Instructional Technology Coordinators (ITC). There’s no reason why an ITC needs to be 12 month, seems excessive. Assistant principals could probably be 11 month easily, like neighboring Alexandria.


When do you think ITC are working on system upgrades and larger-scale maintenance?


Actually, ITCs will no longer work on system upgrades or any maintenance (large or small scale). If you haven’t heard, they are now ONLY report to Syphax, not building principal. ITCs are no longer what you think of ITC should do, they are now “coaches” who observe lessons and teach teachers how to use technology to teach. Another example of people leaving student-facing positions and go work at Syphax. Next time your kids need iPad repair or anything tech related, expect loooong delays, and don’t dare to bother those ITCs, they are now “instructional coaches” and are way too important for such pathetic task, not even the principals can ask them to do those things.

Wow, our ITC has already come in for 3 lessons where they worked with my students for 45+ minutes and are always available to troubleshoot
Anonymous
so who fixes i pads?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:so who fixes i pads?


Every school has an assigned technician. Teachers are urged to put in a ticket for broken technology that is sent to the assigned tech (different person than ITC)
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