How does MCPS get away with spending this much money?

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS is far from perfect, but as the recipient of much of their money, in the form of special needs educational support for my oldest child, I understand that their many special programs (Autism, Asperger's, GT/LD, magnets, etc) are expensive. And yet they are what makes MCPS great - it's one of the few school systems in the world that tries to support ALL students, not just the ones in the range of normal. So I applaud some of the principles and values behind the spending.

Aside from the issue of the chosen few getting proper treatment in this regard (there are great special education services available, but not enough, and not equitably spread), the support for advanced student needs is not nearly on par with that you describe, and not only are there many more of them in the system, but the cost of addressing associated need would be quite a bit lower on a per-student basis, if not overall.

Today's letter from Dr. McKnight touts an operating budget with a "focus on strengthening Academic Excellence" (their bold, not mine). What a bold mischaracterization, there!

students only get out of MCPS what they're willing to put into it and therein lies the problem. Nothing the county does will ever change that. People need to stop expecting mcknight to solve their problems and take some personal responsibility.

Students can't get out of MCPS what MCPS won't offer. Whether they legally are bound to do so or not.

When it's both cheaper and more in alignment with management philosophy towards political aims, it's no surprise that MCPS pays mostly lip service to broadly available and regionally consistent enrichment. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't call out their hypocrisy.

Sorry but that's BS and you know it.

Nice rhetorical bit of fluff, there, calling something BS with nothing to back that up.

Maybe it was because they never backed up their point just spewed gibberish.

OK. I'll bite. Lottery. Plenty qualify for programs. Few are afforded seats.

Your turn.

Not a true lottery, parents who want the county to raise their kids, and complain about nonsense like bocce
Your turn.

Bocce is irrelevant to consideration for GT education. Red herring.

Whether it's a true lottery or not is irrelevant to there not being enough seats to match the qualified need.

Parents want GT instruction to match GT ability, and that's codified in MD law. "Want county to raise their kids" -- straw man.

Next.

Equity means equal outcomes. This is in direct opposition to GT education.. none of the things you hope for will ever ever happen. County really doesn't care about that at all. You need to get over it

Equity means appropriate resource distribution to meet kids where they are. Not assuming kids are failures before you try.

Beat me to it.

"Equity=equal outcomes" is both incorrect and a convenient strawman argument.

"You need to get over it" -- Sheesh, you've solved all the world's problems, there. People just need to get over it when the system is unfair and shouldn't try to make things better. Monopoly pricing? Get over it. Hazardous working conditions with meager pay, brute enforcement and company store lock-in? Get over it. Separate but equal? Get over it. I mean, Ukranians simply have to get over Russia's invasion. Right?

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS is far from perfect, but as the recipient of much of their money, in the form of special needs educational support for my oldest child, I understand that their many special programs (Autism, Asperger's, GT/LD, magnets, etc) are expensive. And yet they are what makes MCPS great - it's one of the few school systems in the world that tries to support ALL students, not just the ones in the range of normal. So I applaud some of the principles and values behind the spending.

Aside from the issue of the chosen few getting proper treatment in this regard (there are great special education services available, but not enough, and not equitably spread), the support for advanced student needs is not nearly on par with that you describe, and not only are there many more of them in the system, but the cost of addressing associated need would be quite a bit lower on a per-student basis, if not overall.

Today's letter from Dr. McKnight touts an operating budget with a "focus on strengthening Academic Excellence" (their bold, not mine). What a bold mischaracterization, there!

students only get out of MCPS what they're willing to put into it and therein lies the problem. Nothing the county does will ever change that. People need to stop expecting mcknight to solve their problems and take some personal responsibility.

Students can't get out of MCPS what MCPS won't offer. Whether they legally are bound to do so or not.

When it's both cheaper and more in alignment with management philosophy towards political aims, it's no surprise that MCPS pays mostly lip service to broadly available and regionally consistent enrichment. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't call out their hypocrisy.

Sorry but that's BS and you know it.

Nice rhetorical bit of fluff, there, calling something BS with nothing to back that up.

Maybe it was because they never backed up their point just spewed gibberish.

OK. I'll bite. Lottery. Plenty qualify for programs. Few are afforded seats.

Your turn.

Not a true lottery, parents who want the county to raise their kids, and complain about nonsense like bocce
Your turn.

Bocce is irrelevant to consideration for GT education. Red herring.

Whether it's a true lottery or not is irrelevant to there not being enough seats to match the qualified need.

Parents want GT instruction to match GT ability, and that's codified in MD law. "Want county to raise their kids" -- straw man.

Next.

Wasn't an issue for me. My kids were both in CES then went to TPMS. Both are currently in the Blair magnet. There are plenty of these opportunities especially for advanced learners.

Too bad they didn't teach basic stats to the parents. Your N of 2 not only doesn't substantiate the conclusion implied by your tone, but it is irrelevant in the face of the new lottery system. Your kids were provided CES & TPMS when they identified kids with greater fidelity. Even then, there were not nearly enough seats for those who would benefit/have a need.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS is far from perfect, but as the recipient of much of their money, in the form of special needs educational support for my oldest child, I understand that their many special programs (Autism, Asperger's, GT/LD, magnets, etc) are expensive. And yet they are what makes MCPS great - it's one of the few school systems in the world that tries to support ALL students, not just the ones in the range of normal. So I applaud some of the principles and values behind the spending.

Aside from the issue of the chosen few getting proper treatment in this regard (there are great special education services available, but not enough, and not equitably spread), the support for advanced student needs is not nearly on par with that you describe, and not only are there many more of them in the system, but the cost of addressing associated need would be quite a bit lower on a per-student basis, if not overall.

Today's letter from Dr. McKnight touts an operating budget with a "focus on strengthening Academic Excellence" (their bold, not mine). What a bold mischaracterization, there!

students only get out of MCPS what they're willing to put into it and therein lies the problem. Nothing the county does will ever change that. People need to stop expecting mcknight to solve their problems and take some personal responsibility.

Students can't get out of MCPS what MCPS won't offer. Whether they legally are bound to do so or not.

When it's both cheaper and more in alignment with management philosophy towards political aims, it's no surprise that MCPS pays mostly lip service to broadly available and regionally consistent enrichment. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't call out their hypocrisy.

Sorry but that's BS and you know it.

Nice rhetorical bit of fluff, there, calling something BS with nothing to back that up.

Maybe it was because they never backed up their point just spewed gibberish.

OK. I'll bite. Lottery. Plenty qualify for programs. Few are afforded seats.

Your turn.

Not a true lottery, parents who want the county to raise their kids, and complain about nonsense like bocce
Your turn.

Bocce is irrelevant to consideration for GT education. Red herring.

Whether it's a true lottery or not is irrelevant to there not being enough seats to match the qualified need.

Parents want GT instruction to match GT ability, and that's codified in MD law. "Want county to raise their kids" -- straw man.

Next.

Wasn't an issue for me. My kids were both in CES then went to TPMS. Both are currently in the Blair magnet. There are plenty of these opportunities especially for advanced learners.

Too bad they didn't teach basic stats to the parents. Your N of 2 not only doesn't substantiate the conclusion implied by your tone, but it is irrelevant in the face of the new lottery system. Your kids were provided CES & TPMS when they identified kids with greater fidelity. Even then, there were not nearly enough seats for those who would benefit/have a need.

Their point is that it's possible for anyone who's worth, but I guess they could dumb it down to make a few more parents happy .

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS is far from perfect, but as the recipient of much of their money, in the form of special needs educational support for my oldest child, I understand that their many special programs (Autism, Asperger's, GT/LD, magnets, etc) are expensive. And yet they are what makes MCPS great - it's one of the few school systems in the world that tries to support ALL students, not just the ones in the range of normal. So I applaud some of the principles and values behind the spending.

Aside from the issue of the chosen few getting proper treatment in this regard (there are great special education services available, but not enough, and not equitably spread), the support for advanced student needs is not nearly on par with that you describe, and not only are there many more of them in the system, but the cost of addressing associated need would be quite a bit lower on a per-student basis, if not overall.

Today's letter from Dr. McKnight touts an operating budget with a "focus on strengthening Academic Excellence" (their bold, not mine). What a bold mischaracterization, there!

students only get out of MCPS what they're willing to put into it and therein lies the problem. Nothing the county does will ever change that. People need to stop expecting mcknight to solve their problems and take some personal responsibility.

Students can't get out of MCPS what MCPS won't offer. Whether they legally are bound to do so or not.

When it's both cheaper and more in alignment with management philosophy towards political aims, it's no surprise that MCPS pays mostly lip service to broadly available and regionally consistent enrichment. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't call out their hypocrisy.

Sorry but that's BS and you know it.

Nice rhetorical bit of fluff, there, calling something BS with nothing to back that up.

Maybe it was because they never backed up their point just spewed gibberish.

OK. I'll bite. Lottery. Plenty qualify for programs. Few are afforded seats.

Your turn.

Not a true lottery, parents who want the county to raise their kids, and complain about nonsense like bocce
Your turn.

Bocce is irrelevant to consideration for GT education. Red herring.

Whether it's a true lottery or not is irrelevant to there not being enough seats to match the qualified need.

Parents want GT instruction to match GT ability, and that's codified in MD law. "Want county to raise their kids" -- straw man.

Next.

Equity means equal outcomes. This is in direct opposition to GT education.. none of the things you hope for will ever ever happen. County really doesn't care about that at all. You need to get over it

Equity means appropriate resource distribution to meet kids where they are. Not assuming kids are failures before you try.

Beat me to it.

"Equity=equal outcomes" is both incorrect and a convenient strawman argument.

"You need to get over it" -- Sheesh, you've solved all the world's problems, there. People just need to get over it when the system is unfair and shouldn't try to make things better. Monopoly pricing? Get over it. Hazardous working conditions with meager pay, brute enforcement and company store lock-in? Get over it. Separate but equal? Get over it. I mean, Ukranians simply have to get over Russia's invasion. Right?

My second grader who hasn't had a reading group in 3 months doesn't feel it's fair that they're ignored while others get groups almost daily.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is far from perfect, but as the recipient of much of their money, in the form of special needs educational support for my oldest child, I understand that their many special programs (Autism, Asperger's, GT/LD, magnets, etc) are expensive. And yet they are what makes MCPS great - it's one of the few school systems in the world that tries to support ALL students, not just the ones in the range of normal. So I applaud some of the principles and values behind the spending.

Aside from the issue of the chosen few getting proper treatment in this regard (there are great special education services available, but not enough, and not equitably spread), the support for advanced student needs is not nearly on par with that you describe, and not only are there many more of them in the system, but the cost of addressing associated need would be quite a bit lower on a per-student basis, if not overall.

Today's letter from Dr. McKnight touts an operating budget with a "focus on strengthening Academic Excellence" (their bold, not mine). What a bold mischaracterization, there!

students only get out of MCPS what they're willing to put into it and therein lies the problem. Nothing the county does will ever change that. People need to stop expecting mcknight to solve their problems and take some personal responsibility.

Students can't get out of MCPS what MCPS won't offer. Whether they legally are bound to do so or not.

When it's both cheaper and more in alignment with management philosophy towards political aims, it's no surprise that MCPS pays mostly lip service to broadly available and regionally consistent enrichment. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't call out their hypocrisy.

Sorry but that's BS and you know it.

Nice rhetorical bit of fluff, there, calling something BS with nothing to back that up.

Maybe it was because they never backed up their point just spewed gibberish.

OK. I'll bite. Lottery. Plenty qualify for programs. Few are afforded seats.

Your turn.

Not a true lottery, parents who want the county to raise their kids, and complain about nonsense like bocce
Your turn.

Bocce is irrelevant to consideration for GT education. Red herring.

Whether it's a true lottery or not is irrelevant to there not being enough seats to match the qualified need.

Parents want GT instruction to match GT ability, and that's codified in MD law. "Want county to raise their kids" -- straw man.

Next.

Equity means equal outcomes. This is in direct opposition to GT education.. none of the things you hope for will ever ever happen. County really doesn't care about that at all. You need to get over it

Equity means appropriate resource distribution to meet kids where they are. Not assuming kids are failures before you try.

Beat me to it.

"Equity=equal outcomes" is both incorrect and a convenient strawman argument.

"You need to get over it" -- Sheesh, you've solved all the world's problems, there. People just need to get over it when the system is unfair and shouldn't try to make things better. Monopoly pricing? Get over it. Hazardous working conditions with meager pay, brute enforcement and company store lock-in? Get over it. Separate but equal? Get over it. I mean, Ukranians simply have to get over Russia's invasion. Right?

My second grader who hasn't had a reading group in 3 months doesn't feel it's fair that they're ignored while others get groups almost daily.

Yup. Preach it!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is far from perfect, but as the recipient of much of their money, in the form of special needs educational support for my oldest child, I understand that their many special programs (Autism, Asperger's, GT/LD, magnets, etc) are expensive. And yet they are what makes MCPS great - it's one of the few school systems in the world that tries to support ALL students, not just the ones in the range of normal. So I applaud some of the principles and values behind the spending.

Aside from the issue of the chosen few getting proper treatment in this regard (there are great special education services available, but not enough, and not equitably spread), the support for advanced student needs is not nearly on par with that you describe, and not only are there many more of them in the system, but the cost of addressing associated need would be quite a bit lower on a per-student basis, if not overall.

Today's letter from Dr. McKnight touts an operating budget with a "focus on strengthening Academic Excellence" (their bold, not mine). What a bold mischaracterization, there!

students only get out of MCPS what they're willing to put into it and therein lies the problem. Nothing the county does will ever change that. People need to stop expecting mcknight to solve their problems and take some personal responsibility.

Students can't get out of MCPS what MCPS won't offer. Whether they legally are bound to do so or not.

When it's both cheaper and more in alignment with management philosophy towards political aims, it's no surprise that MCPS pays mostly lip service to broadly available and regionally consistent enrichment. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't call out their hypocrisy.

Sorry but that's BS and you know it.

Nice rhetorical bit of fluff, there, calling something BS with nothing to back that up.

Maybe it was because they never backed up their point just spewed gibberish.

OK. I'll bite. Lottery. Plenty qualify for programs. Few are afforded seats.

Your turn.

Not a true lottery, parents who want the county to raise their kids, and complain about nonsense like bocce
Your turn.

Bocce is irrelevant to consideration for GT education. Red herring.

Whether it's a true lottery or not is irrelevant to there not being enough seats to match the qualified need.

Parents want GT instruction to match GT ability, and that's codified in MD law. "Want county to raise their kids" -- straw man.

Next.

Wasn't an issue for me. My kids were both in CES then went to TPMS. Both are currently in the Blair magnet. There are plenty of these opportunities especially for advanced learners.

Too bad they didn't teach basic stats to the parents. Your N of 2 not only doesn't substantiate the conclusion implied by your tone, but it is irrelevant in the face of the new lottery system. Your kids were provided CES & TPMS when they identified kids with greater fidelity. Even then, there were not nearly enough seats for those who would benefit/have a need.

Their point is that it's possible for anyone who's worth, but I guess they could dumb it down to make a few more parents happy .

Their tone was one of, "The system worked for my kids who are really smart, so it should work for any kids who are really smart. Those complaining must not have smart kids." If you don't see the logical fallacy, there...

On top of that, with a lottery, there's no guaranteeing a spot for even the brightest of kids. The whole point is that there isn't enough that MCPS puts into GT education. The fact that they have to go to a lottery inherently acknowledges that there aren't enough seats in the first place.

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McKnight says the electric buses are no more expensive than diesel.

https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2023/02/breaking-mcps-doesnt-know-if-electric.html?m=1

So happy they're investing in our children's future and helping to do their part to save mother Earth!

Fooled you

https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2023/10/breaking-superintendent-mcknight-kills.html?m=1