Anyone else thinks the whole college admission process is a total farse?
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Anonymous
you mean getting revenge on people who did nothing to you? |
Anonymous
Not really. I don't get to decide where majority of my tax dollars are spent. I can only impact that by voting, but even then we don't vote on "which highway will get repaired this year". I still have to pay taxes no matter who wins the election. These colleges are not picking someone with a 1100 and 2.5 over a 1600/4.0UW (unless it's an athlete). They know that test scores are just a part of the picture. When admission rates are less than 20% a significant portion of "highly qualified" candidates are going to be rejected---that's just life. If you choose to apply to elite schools you should know that and be prepared for the consequences (ie. You might not get in even with perfect scores). And yes, a kid from a disadvantaged background (poor, worried about roof over head and where food is coming from, parents who did not attend college and know how to help them, in a school district where most don't go on to college let alone elite colleges, etc) does deserve to have that taken into account---much harder to get a 1400 and 4.0+ when you have so many other concerns. They may not have 1000+ hours of volunteering in the right area or elite summer programs or amazing ECs, but they can be considered "equivalent candidate" to your other kids with different scores. It's the whole picture colleges want to fill diverse classes on many levels. Know this going into the admission process and pick you list wisely. Nobody is guaranteed admission a Top university...but we are lucky to live in a country where anyone who wants to attend college can find a way to (largely). You are not "tested into college track at age 12/13" like so many countries. |
Anonymous
Just the elite ones---but yes, if they apply smartly, they will have many many excellent places to pick from. step down from T20-30 and a kid with those stats will find get many acceptances (unless they present themselves as "this school is beneath me" attitude ) |
Anonymous
I am certain the cool aid you drunk was tasty. This is another one of those lies. Absolute BS! Colleges may want certain geographic & racial mix and work towards that but there is no way it is conceivable that they are able to compose a mix of personalities by reading one or two essays. It is not possible for even a trained psychologists/psychiatrists to do so let alone by a bunch of AOs whose only aim to learn the ropes of the trade and become private consultants or enroll in the same school for a better job later on. |
Anonymous
No one but you is talking about legality. That change will only make a minor adjustment to the process and affect a very small change in the admitted students at very few schools. Despite your sock puppetting and attempt to change the OP's topic, people only care about this with the most elite colleges, really just the top 50 anyway. The top 50 will always be able to pick whoever they want to build the class they want based on their mission, regardless of any supreme court decision. |
Anonymous
| I’ve talked to an AO and they have stated there is no possible way to review every application. Get them in early. Waryky decision for top schools. |
Anonymous
I don't believe that. California colleges' admissions composition changed markedly when the state banned affirmative action. |
Anonymous
Yes, you are the genius who has figured it all out, and the AO at the elite colleges are a bunch of mindless dolts throwing darts at a board for admissions, even though they do it professionally and have a hundred years of institutional learning. And your ad hominem insult of AOs is quite a tell. I am sure you use that esteemed insight with other professionals, like your doctor, your accountant, and others. You know it all, and they know nothing. Congrats! Must be great being you! |
Anonymous
+1 Which is exactly what some of these kids do when selecting what they seem to think are “safety schools.” Unless you’re applying ED, those schools know they are just fallbacks (in the students’ minds) and have every right to reject them. |
Anonymous
I haven't sock puppeted anything here. And you are wrong. If the colleges are required by law to eliminate consideration of race, the percentage of Asians will zoom to 75-80 percent of the elite colleges admissions. Guaranteed. |
Anonymous
Just because the racial cohort changed doesn't mean they didn't pick who they want. Those are not mutually exclusive concepts. You think that change magically put high SATs in the front of the line? No way. |
Anonymous
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So what exactly is the outrage about here?
That each application isn't thoroughly read and considered? That people with lower test scores and GPA may get in over people with those higher stats? That the system isn't totally objective and based on tests, GPA and rigor? Please keep in mind that the first and third on this list cancel each other out. |
Anonymous
Adding to this list That some schools send out too many marketing materials? |
Anonymous
The yield protect thing is terrible. It's become about status and money, rather than actually about academics. The cost of colleges are insane, and you have to jump through hoops to apply. |
Anonymous
Some of them look expensive. It's insane. |