If certain DCUMers are right about European vs US food…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m French. When we visit our families in Paris, we walk a lot more and don’t snack at all hours. The food is also less processed. So we eat less, and better.

Here, we’re running about, grabbing snacks anytime, and it’s harder to avoid crap food.

European here - agree with this. Also, American food (even the "heathy stuff") is so full of salt and sugar it messes with how we eat.

This is dorky but as an American who loves French culture, I read "Bringing Up Bebe" and implemented a lot of the tactics around food in the early years raising my DD -- avoiding idle snacking, serving vegetables first and early in baby's life, etc. It works! She is not a snacker while her friends are constantly whining for snacks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m French. When we visit our families in Paris, we walk a lot more and don’t snack at all hours. The food is also less processed. So we eat less, and better.

Here, we’re running about, grabbing snacks anytime, and it’s harder to avoid crap food.

European here - agree with this. Also, American food (even the "heathy stuff") is so full of salt and sugar it messes with how we eat.

This is dorky but as an American who loves French culture, I read "Bringing Up Bebe" and implemented a lot of the tactics around food in the early years raising my DD -- avoiding idle snacking, serving vegetables first and early in baby's life, etc. It works! She is not a snacker while her friends are constantly whining for snacks.

I did similar with my too and ended up with one healthy eater and one very picky eater. Sometimes it isn’t what we do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m French. When we visit our families in Paris, we walk a lot more and don’t snack at all hours. The food is also less processed. So we eat less, and better.

Here, we’re running about, grabbing snacks anytime, and it’s harder to avoid crap food.

European here - agree with this. Also, American food (even the "heathy stuff") is so full of salt and sugar it messes with how we eat.

This is dorky but as an American who loves French culture, I read "Bringing Up Bebe" and implemented a lot of the tactics around food in the early years raising my DD -- avoiding idle snacking, serving vegetables first and early in baby's life, etc. It works! She is not a snacker while her friends are constantly whining for snacks.

I did similar with mine too and ended up with one healthy eater and one very picky eater. Sometimes it isn’t what we do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eating clean requires a lot of vigilance. Most people aren't mindful about what goes into their bodies.

There's no such thing as clean food and dirty food. This is just distorted pro-ana talk.

Eating clean as opposed to ultra processed food. What the heck is dirty food? You're weird for even thinking about pro'-ana talk.

Sorry, PP is right.

You're referring to whole foods.

Dont see what's wrong with saying you eat clean or have a clean diet. Tomato, tomahto

[Anonymous]

My grandfather is French. When I visit him, one thing that always stands out is that he (and everyone there) eat a proper meal for lunch.

There's not shoving a sandwich down their throats while hunched over a keyboard. There's no eating fast food french fries out of the bag as you race through traffic to make it back to your desk.

Many places close for lunch for at least 2 hours and people leave to eat. Eating is a slow process there, too.

Lunch is also their biggest meal.

My grandpa will have a cafe au lait, soft boiled egg, pastry, and fruit each morning for breakfast. He'll then have a proper meal like steak frites for lunch with a salad, bread, and wine. He has fruit, biscuits, and tea at around 4 or 5 pm as a snack. Then for dinner, which is usually late like 7 or 8 pm, he'll eat something smaller and simple like a cheese plate or bowl of soup or small salad - with bread of course, always with bread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m French. When we visit our families in Paris, we walk a lot more and don’t snack at all hours. The food is also less processed. So we eat less, and better.

Here, we’re running about, grabbing snacks anytime, and it’s harder to avoid crap food.

European here - agree with this. Also, American food (even the "heathy stuff") is so full of salt and sugar it messes with how we eat.

This is dorky but as an American who loves French culture, I read "Bringing Up Bebe" and implemented a lot of the tactics around food in the early years raising my DD -- avoiding idle snacking, serving vegetables first and early in baby's life, etc. It works! She is not a snacker while her friends are constantly whining for snacks.

I did similar with my too and ended up with one healthy eater and one very picky eater. Sometimes it isn’t what we do.

Same except I have one kid with a weight problem and two skinny kids. Drives me nuts when people credit these kinds of “tricks” with the outcomes.

[Anonymous]

I'll be going to Europe on 31st and will return on 10th. I'll pay attention to what I eat and how I feel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My grandfather is French. When I visit him, one thing that always stands out is that he (and everyone there) eat a proper meal for lunch.

There's not shoving a sandwich down their throats while hunched over a keyboard. There's no eating fast food french fries out of the bag as you race through traffic to make it back to your desk.

Many places close for lunch for at least 2 hours and people leave to eat. Eating is a slow process there, too.

Lunch is also their biggest meal.

My grandpa will have a cafe au lait, soft boiled egg, pastry, and fruit each morning for breakfast. He'll then have a proper meal like steak frites for lunch with a salad, bread, and wine. He has fruit, biscuits, and tea at around 4 or 5 pm as a snack. Then for dinner, which is usually late like 7 or 8 pm, he'll eat something smaller and simple like a cheese plate or bowl of soup or small salad - with bread of course, always with bread.

This list made me hungry but it does show exactly how to stay in check: by having a good routine, being mindful and taking time to prep and eat reasonable portions.
I'm from a different European country, but have same habits; steady weight since college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eating clean requires a lot of vigilance. Most people aren't mindful about what goes into their bodies.

There's no such thing as clean food and dirty food. This is just distorted pro-ana talk.

Eating clean as opposed to ultra processed food. What the heck is dirty food? You're weird for even thinking about pro'-ana talk.

Sorry, PP is right.

You're referring to whole foods.

Dont see what's wrong with saying you eat clean or have a clean diet. Tomato, tomahto

These are the first two I found, there are many more to explain it:
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/10/07/766847274/when-efforts-to-eat-clean-become-an-unhealthy-obsession

https://www.shape.com/healthy-eating/diet-tips/problem-with-clean-eating

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eating clean requires a lot of vigilance. Most people aren't mindful about what goes into their bodies.

There's no such thing as clean food and dirty food. This is just distorted pro-ana talk.

Eating clean as opposed to ultra processed food. What the heck is dirty food? You're weird for even thinking about pro'-ana talk.

Sorry, PP is right.

You're referring to whole foods.

Dont see what's wrong with saying you eat clean or have a clean diet. Tomato, tomahto

Obviously the inverse is that you have a "dirty" diet, which is ridiculous. The only people I know who use the term "clean eating" are disordered eaters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m French. When we visit our families in Paris, we walk a lot more and don’t snack at all hours. The food is also less processed. So we eat less, and better.

Here, we’re running about, grabbing snacks anytime, and it’s harder to avoid crap food.

European here - agree with this. Also, American food (even the "heathy stuff") is so full of salt and sugar it messes with how we eat.

This is dorky but as an American who loves French culture, I read "Bringing Up Bebe" and implemented a lot of the tactics around food in the early years raising my DD -- avoiding idle snacking, serving vegetables first and early in baby's life, etc. It works! She is not a snacker while her friends are constantly whining for snacks.

I did similar with my too and ended up with one healthy eater and one very picky eater. Sometimes it isn’t what we do.

Same except I have one kid with a weight problem and two skinny kids. Drives me nuts when people credit these kinds of “tricks” with the outcomes.

Some of us only have one so I guess we are not allowed to draw conclusions that X caused Y?

Seems kind of oversensitive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eating clean requires a lot of vigilance. Most people aren't mindful about what goes into their bodies.

There's no such thing as clean food and dirty food. This is just distorted pro-ana talk.

Eating clean as opposed to ultra processed food. What the heck is dirty food? You're weird for even thinking about pro'-ana talk.

Sorry, PP is right.

You're referring to whole foods.

Dont see what's wrong with saying you eat clean or have a clean diet. Tomato, tomahto

Obviously the inverse is that you have a "dirty" diet, which is ridiculous. The only people I know who use the term "clean eating" are disordered eaters.

But clean could mean pure or minimally processed and not refined.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eating clean requires a lot of vigilance. Most people aren't mindful about what goes into their bodies.

There's no such thing as clean food and dirty food. This is just distorted pro-ana talk.

Eating clean as opposed to ultra processed food. What the heck is dirty food? You're weird for even thinking about pro'-ana talk.

Sorry, PP is right.

You're referring to whole foods.

Dont see what's wrong with saying you eat clean or have a clean diet. Tomato, tomahto

Obviously the inverse is that you have a "dirty" diet, which is ridiculous. The only people I know who use the term "clean eating" are disordered eaters.

But clean could mean pure or minimally processed and not refined.

What is "pure" in relation to food? These words are so judgment laden.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eating clean requires a lot of vigilance. Most people aren't mindful about what goes into their bodies.

There's no such thing as clean food and dirty food. This is just distorted pro-ana talk.

Eating clean as opposed to ultra processed food. What the heck is dirty food? You're weird for even thinking about pro'-ana talk.

Sorry, PP is right.

You're referring to whole foods.

Dont see what's wrong with saying you eat clean or have a clean diet. Tomato, tomahto

Obviously the inverse is that you have a "dirty" diet, which is ridiculous. The only people I know who use the term "clean eating" are disordered eaters.

But clean could mean pure or minimally processed and not refined.

So use the term "minimally processed," which actually has some meaning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m French. When we visit our families in Paris, we walk a lot more and don’t snack at all hours. The food is also less processed. So we eat less, and better.

Here, we’re running about, grabbing snacks anytime, and it’s harder to avoid crap food.

European here - agree with this. Also, American food (even the "heathy stuff") is so full of salt and sugar it messes with how we eat.

This is dorky but as an American who loves French culture, I read "Bringing Up Bebe" and implemented a lot of the tactics around food in the early years raising my DD -- avoiding idle snacking, serving vegetables first and early in baby's life, etc. It works! She is not a snacker while her friends are constantly whining for snacks.

I did similar with my too and ended up with one healthy eater and one very picky eater. Sometimes it isn’t what we do.

Same except I have one kid with a weight problem and two skinny kids. Drives me nuts when people credit these kinds of “tricks” with the outcomes.

Some of us only have one so I guess we are not allowed to draw conclusions that X caused Y?

Seems kind of oversensitive.

Not oversensitive, but correctly stating that a single example does not equal data.