Hardy MS 7th Grade Science Situation

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Anonymous wrote:The science teacher just up and left. No notice to the school to allow them to find a replacement. No e-mail to the parents to give them a head’s up or explain why she was leaving. No apparent consideration given to how severely she was screwing over her students for the year. We understand that DCPS has its issues and that the school administration is a mess, but to take out one’s frustration on the students is really appalling.

You are pathetic. Every teacher is concerned about their students. If a teacher isn't concerned, then good riddance. Sadly the teacher weighed up their options and still decided that leaving was better than staying. Yes, it sucks for parents and students, but the teacher is only human and has to what is right for them.

Teachers who are concerned about their students don’t do what that teacher did. No one is asking for a lifetime commitment, only due notice. What exactly did they expect to happen after they decided to walk away from a class in the middle of a term? In no profession is it acceptable to leave one’s colleagues and clients in the lurch like this. But here you are offering up weak excuses for such behavior and calling others pathetic. I guess it must hit a bit too close to home.

No, most do not hold your view. Most would leave their job, even at an in opportune time, for
Personal or professional reasons. I am a middle school teacher looking to leave teaching. My district requires 30 days notice to leave in good standing/ be able to be rehired and I would strongly try to give that, but if I couldn’t, oh well. Teaching has become an exhausting, depressing, unsustainable job. No raises despite massive inflation. Many more duties. I am a teacher, IT support, a social worker and constantly have more and more emails and documents shoved in my face. Newsflash- this is not a desk job. I’m working with kids.

I can’t wait to leave.

Why would you care about being in good standing?

Why would a teacher leaving mid-year care about whether the school wants to control the messaging? You are already breaking your contract and saying you are done. Why not communicate with students before you leave? It’s not as if the school can fire you.

At the moment I do not want to teach or be in a classroom. I still respect my school and the kids and admin and want to give notice so they can have some kind of transition. At this point current circumstances are extremely damaging for my mental health. I want to keep the option open to return down the line, maybe for a different role. I’ve been teaching for a decade and not looking to burn it all down. I’m also not breaking a contract. I never signed a contract that said I would stay teaching a full academic year. That’s why we have to give 30 days notice. Not 6 months, etc

That’s interesting that you don’t sign a contract. Are you union?

dp: She did not say that she didn’t sign a contract. She said that she didn’t sign a contact THAT requires her to stay til summer.

[Anonymous]

What does any of this have to do with the disgraceful Hardy MS 7th grade science situation?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The science teacher just up and left. No notice to the school to allow them to find a replacement. No e-mail to the parents to give them a head’s up or explain why she was leaving. No apparent consideration given to how severely she was screwing over her students for the year. We understand that DCPS has its issues and that the school administration is a mess, but to take out one’s frustration on the students is really appalling.

You are pathetic. Every teacher is concerned about their students. If a teacher isn't concerned, then good riddance. Sadly the teacher weighed up their options and still decided that leaving was better than staying. Yes, it sucks for parents and students, but the teacher is only human and has to what is right for them.

Teachers who are concerned about their students don’t do what that teacher did. No one is asking for a lifetime commitment, only due notice. What exactly did they expect to happen after they decided to walk away from a class in the middle of a term? In no profession is it acceptable to leave one’s colleagues and clients in the lurch like this. But here you are offering up weak excuses for such behavior and calling others pathetic. I guess it must hit a bit too close to home.

No, most do not hold your view. Most would leave their job, even at an in opportune time, for
Personal or professional reasons. I am a middle school teacher looking to leave teaching. My district requires 30 days notice to leave in good standing/ be able to be rehired and I would strongly try to give that, but if I couldn’t, oh well. Teaching has become an exhausting, depressing, unsustainable job. No raises despite massive inflation. Many more duties. I am a teacher, IT support, a social worker and constantly have more and more emails and documents shoved in my face. Newsflash- this is not a desk job. I’m working with kids.

I can’t wait to leave.

Why would you care about being in good standing?

Why would a teacher leaving mid-year care about whether the school wants to control the messaging? You are already breaking your contract and saying you are done. Why not communicate with students before you leave? It’s not as if the school can fire you.

At the moment I do not want to teach or be in a classroom. I still respect my school and the kids and admin and want to give notice so they can have some kind of transition. At this point current circumstances are extremely damaging for my mental health. I want to keep the option open to return down the line, maybe for a different role. I’ve been teaching for a decade and not looking to burn it all down. I’m also not breaking a contract. I never signed a contract that said I would stay teaching a full academic year. That’s why we have to give 30 days notice. Not 6 months, etc

That’s interesting that you don’t sign a contract. Are you union?

dp: She did not say that she didn’t sign a contract. She said that she didn’t sign a contact THAT requires her to stay til summer.

She said there is no contract they sign year to year.

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Anonymous wrote:For the poster asking why a teacher didn’t explain why they left- we often are not allowed to. The school wants to handle the messaging, or lack of messaging.
DCPS teachers have for years been telling people what is burning them out (IMPACT, unchecked student behavior, weekly new initiatives, 25 year old administrators who have zero management skills) We are finally just moving on from DCPS and taking action.
In a toxic organization good people leave first. Then you are left with bad actors and hostages. What you are seeing is the people who thought they were hostage, breaking out.

I left DCPS for a Big 3 private. I intend on helping as many dc teachers as I can to make the jump.

Does anyone get into teaching because they expect to be celebrated by bureaucrats? DCPS Central, sucks, we get it. Every engaged parent is doing their best to tell the city leadership that there is a real problem that needs to dealt with urgently. But intransigent administrators and inane bureaucracy isn't really a good excuse for not giving the students and parents a head's up that your heading out and/or hanging on for just a few more weeks to give the school time to get a new teacher on-boarded so that your students don't suffer months of learning loss. Teachers whose first instinct is jump to the defense of behavior such as this have anger issues that, in truth, should probably disqualify them from teaching.

OMG. I’m a parent, not a teacher, and it’s parents like you who are driving all the teachers away.

Anger issues? Disqualify from teaching? Are you for real?? You obviously are naive to not know that many schools don’t allow teachers to notify their students or families. The school wants to control the messaging.

It’s no secret that DCPS doesn’t support their teachers and it’s a toxic environment to work in. Some teachers have tried to stick it out but when you are miserable for so long, you reach a breaking point and leave for your own sanity.

Guess you missed the news that there is a nationwide shortage of teachers or missed the post in this thread from the science teacher. Sure stick it out for a few weeks or month until a new science teacher is on-boarded. So easy to find one.

I suggest you take your frustrations out on DCPS and not the teachers, unless of course you want to drive away even more teachers.

You are not making any sense. The teacher is free to quit without providing any notice in the middle of the term and leave their students without instruction for months, but would suffer some terrible sanction for sending a note to the parents in the process?

It is perfectly reasonable to acknowledge that DCPS teachers have it bad without condoning behavior that demonstrates total contempt for students and other teachers alike.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, all of the parents quick to blame and judge teachers- you’re missing the bigger picture. That education right now is life-sucking and miserable, that teachers are depressed, using all their PTO, and don’t want to be in schools. This is not sustainable. You should be advocation for better in school conditions which directly affect your children. Teachers working conditions are childrens learning conditions.

We can do this and still call out teachers who no-notice quit and leave their students without instruction for months on end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the poster asking why a teacher didn’t explain why they left- we often are not allowed to. The school wants to handle the messaging, or lack of messaging.
DCPS teachers have for years been telling people what is burning them out (IMPACT, unchecked student behavior, weekly new initiatives, 25 year old administrators who have zero management skills) We are finally just moving on from DCPS and taking action.
In a toxic organization good people leave first. Then you are left with bad actors and hostages. What you are seeing is the people who thought they were hostage, breaking out.

I left DCPS for a Big 3 private. I intend on helping as many dc teachers as I can to make the jump.

Does anyone get into teaching because they expect to be celebrated by bureaucrats? DCPS Central, sucks, we get it. Every engaged parent is doing their best to tell the city leadership that there is a real problem that needs to dealt with urgently. But intransigent administrators and inane bureaucracy isn't really a good excuse for not giving the students and parents a head's up that your heading out and/or hanging on for just a few more weeks to give the school time to get a new teacher on-boarded so that your students don't suffer months of learning loss. Teachers whose first instinct is jump to the defense of behavior such as this have anger issues that, in truth, should probably disqualify them from teaching.

OMG. I’m a parent, not a teacher, and it’s parents like you who are driving all the teachers away.

Anger issues? Disqualify from teaching? Are you for real?? You obviously are naive to not know that many schools don’t allow teachers to notify their students or families. The school wants to control the messaging.

It’s no secret that DCPS doesn’t support their teachers and it’s a toxic environment to work in. Some teachers have tried to stick it out but when you are miserable for so long, you reach a breaking point and leave for your own sanity.

Guess you missed the news that there is a nationwide shortage of teachers or missed the post in this thread from the science teacher. Sure stick it out for a few weeks or month until a new science teacher is on-boarded. So easy to find one.

I suggest you take your frustrations out on DCPS and not the teachers, unless of course you want to drive away even more teachers.

You are not making any sense. The teacher is free to quit without providing any notice in the middle of the term and leave their students without instruction for months, but would suffer some terrible sanction for sending a note to the parents in the process?

It is perfectly reasonable to acknowledge that DCPS teachers have it bad without condoning behavior that demonstrates total contempt for students and other teachers alike.

When I sent a note to parents that I was leaving my school at the end of the year (not even mid year) my principal sent me a threatening letter and told me I was destroying school culture. I stand by any teachers doing what they think is best

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP.
The exact same thing happened in the few weeks before the drama teacher started.
I don't understand why subs in situations like this are not doing any instruction.
Is it one bad sub? There is a curriculum. How dare the guy show up to class as a substitute teacher and then not teach anything at all?

Have you seen what subs are paid? No one wants to do it. For that price, you get a warm body who's 18+ with no felony convictions. The end.

This is pretty close to the truth. Sometimes you get a retired teacher who might do a little more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The science teacher just up and left. No notice to the school to allow them to find a replacement. No e-mail to the parents to give them a head’s up or explain why she was leaving. No apparent consideration given to how severely she was screwing over her students for the year. We understand that DCPS has its issues and that the school administration is a mess, but to take out one’s frustration on the students is really appalling.

You are pathetic. Every teacher is concerned about their students. If a teacher isn't concerned, then good riddance. Sadly the teacher weighed up their options and still decided that leaving was better than staying. Yes, it sucks for parents and students, but the teacher is only human and has to what is right for them.

Teachers who are concerned about their students don’t do what that teacher did. No one is asking for a lifetime commitment, only due notice. What exactly did they expect to happen after they decided to walk away from a class in the middle of a term? In no profession is it acceptable to leave one’s colleagues and clients in the lurch like this. But here you are offering up weak excuses for such behavior and calling others pathetic. I guess it must hit a bit too close to home.

No, most do not hold your view. Most would leave their job, even at an in opportune time, for
Personal or professional reasons. I am a middle school teacher looking to leave teaching. My district requires 30 days notice to leave in good standing/ be able to be rehired and I would strongly try to give that, but if I couldn’t, oh well. Teaching has become an exhausting, depressing, unsustainable job. No raises despite massive inflation. Many more duties. I am a teacher, IT support, a social worker and constantly have more and more emails and documents shoved in my face. Newsflash- this is not a desk job. I’m working with kids.

I can’t wait to leave.

I think you've summed up what teaching is about post-pandemic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What does any of this have to do with the disgraceful Hardy MS 7th grade science situation?

Get a grip. Teachers quit all the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, all of the parents quick to blame and judge teachers- you’re missing the bigger picture. That education right now is life-sucking and miserable, that teachers are depressed, using all their PTO, and don’t want to be in schools. This is not sustainable. You should be advocation for better in school conditions which directly affect your children. Teachers working conditions are childrens learning conditions.

We can do this and still call out teachers who no-notice quit and leave their students without instruction for months on end.

Wake up parent. The world has moved on and so have many teachers. The teacher quit. Deal with it and stop complaining so that the next teacher doesn't quit within a month and your precious child has no instruction once again. Start treating teachers, admin, janitors, everyone with more respect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, all of the parents quick to blame and judge teachers- you’re missing the bigger picture. That education right now is life-sucking and miserable, that teachers are depressed, using all their PTO, and don’t want to be in schools. This is not sustainable. You should be advocation for better in school conditions which directly affect your children. Teachers working conditions are childrens learning conditions.

We can do this and still call out teachers who no-notice quit and leave their students without instruction for months on end.

Wake up parent. The world has moved on and so have many teachers. The teacher quit. Deal with it and stop complaining so that the next teacher doesn't quit within a month and your precious child has no instruction once again. Start treating teachers, admin, janitors, everyone with more respect.

Exactly! Why is it hard to understand that Hardy is not immune to this!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the poster asking why a teacher didn’t explain why they left- we often are not allowed to. The school wants to handle the messaging, or lack of messaging.
DCPS teachers have for years been telling people what is burning them out (IMPACT, unchecked student behavior, weekly new initiatives, 25 year old administrators who have zero management skills) We are finally just moving on from DCPS and taking action.
In a toxic organization good people leave first. Then you are left with bad actors and hostages. What you are seeing is the people who thought they were hostage, breaking out.

I left DCPS for a Big 3 private. I intend on helping as many dc teachers as I can to make the jump.

Does anyone get into teaching because they expect to be celebrated by bureaucrats? DCPS Central, sucks, we get it. Every engaged parent is doing their best to tell the city leadership that there is a real problem that needs to dealt with urgently. But intransigent administrators and inane bureaucracy isn't really a good excuse for not giving the students and parents a head's up that your heading out and/or hanging on for just a few more weeks to give the school time to get a new teacher on-boarded so that your students don't suffer months of learning loss. Teachers whose first instinct is jump to the defense of behavior such as this have anger issues that, in truth, should probably disqualify them from teaching.

OMG. I’m a parent, not a teacher, and it’s parents like you who are driving all the teachers away.

Anger issues? Disqualify from teaching? Are you for real?? You obviously are naive to not know that many schools don’t allow teachers to notify their students or families. The school wants to control the messaging.

It’s no secret that DCPS doesn’t support their teachers and it’s a toxic environment to work in. Some teachers have tried to stick it out but when you are miserable for so long, you reach a breaking point and leave for your own sanity.

Guess you missed the news that there is a nationwide shortage of teachers or missed the post in this thread from the science teacher. Sure stick it out for a few weeks or month until a new science teacher is on-boarded. So easy to find one.

I suggest you take your frustrations out on DCPS and not the teachers, unless of course you want to drive away even more teachers.

You are not making any sense. The teacher is free to quit without providing any notice in the middle of the term and leave their students without instruction for months, but would suffer some terrible sanction for sending a note to the parents in the process?

It is perfectly reasonable to acknowledge that DCPS teachers have it bad without condoning behavior that demonstrates total contempt for students and other teachers alike.

Parent here and not teacher. Yes the teacher can give 2 week or 4 weeks notice, whatever is in the contract.

It is the schools responsibility to notify families when the teacher will be leaving and come up with the plan going forward. It is not the teachers and frankly if I were a teacher, I would have no interest in notifying some of the entitled and demanding parents on here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the poster asking why a teacher didn’t explain why they left- we often are not allowed to. The school wants to handle the messaging, or lack of messaging.
DCPS teachers have for years been telling people what is burning them out (IMPACT, unchecked student behavior, weekly new initiatives, 25 year old administrators who have zero management skills) We are finally just moving on from DCPS and taking action.
In a toxic organization good people leave first. Then you are left with bad actors and hostages. What you are seeing is the people who thought they were hostage, breaking out.

I left DCPS for a Big 3 private. I intend on helping as many dc teachers as I can to make the jump.

Does anyone get into teaching because they expect to be celebrated by bureaucrats? DCPS Central, sucks, we get it. Every engaged parent is doing their best to tell the city leadership that there is a real problem that needs to dealt with urgently. But intransigent administrators and inane bureaucracy isn't really a good excuse for not giving the students and parents a head's up that your heading out and/or hanging on for just a few more weeks to give the school time to get a new teacher on-boarded so that your students don't suffer months of learning loss. Teachers whose first instinct is jump to the defense of behavior such as this have anger issues that, in truth, should probably disqualify them from teaching.

OMG. I’m a parent, not a teacher, and it’s parents like you who are driving all the teachers away.

Anger issues? Disqualify from teaching? Are you for real?? You obviously are naive to not know that many schools don’t allow teachers to notify their students or families. The school wants to control the messaging.

It’s no secret that DCPS doesn’t support their teachers and it’s a toxic environment to work in. Some teachers have tried to stick it out but when you are miserable for so long, you reach a breaking point and leave for your own sanity.

Guess you missed the news that there is a nationwide shortage of teachers or missed the post in this thread from the science teacher. Sure stick it out for a few weeks or month until a new science teacher is on-boarded. So easy to find one.

I suggest you take your frustrations out on DCPS and not the teachers, unless of course you want to drive away even more teachers.

You are not making any sense. The teacher is free to quit without providing any notice in the middle of the term and leave their students without instruction for months, but would suffer some terrible sanction for sending a note to the parents in the process?

It is perfectly reasonable to acknowledge that DCPS teachers have it bad without condoning behavior that demonstrates total contempt for students and other teachers alike.

Parent here and not teacher. Yes the teacher can give 2 week or 4 weeks notice, whatever is in the contract.

It is the schools responsibility to notify families when the teacher will be leaving and come up with the plan going forward. It is not the teachers and frankly if I were a teacher, I would have no interest in notifying some of the entitled and demanding parents on here.

OK, so then how about they just notify the non-demanding parents. How do you do that, though? Is it demanding, in your eyes, to expect that when a teacher takes on a class for a school year that, absent extraordinary events, they will stick it out at least until the school can bring in someone to replace them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, all of the parents quick to blame and judge teachers- you’re missing the bigger picture. That education right now is life-sucking and miserable, that teachers are depressed, using all their PTO, and don’t want to be in schools. This is not sustainable. You should be advocation for better in school conditions which directly affect your children. Teachers working conditions are childrens learning conditions.

We can do this and still call out teachers who no-notice quit and leave their students without instruction for months on end.

Wake up parent. The world has moved on and so have many teachers. The teacher quit. Deal with it and stop complaining so that the next teacher doesn't quit within a month and your precious child has no instruction once again. Start treating teachers, admin, janitors, everyone with more respect.

Do you seriously believe that the parents had anything to do with the teacher quitting? On the contrary, I think if the teacher had communicated anything a lot of parents in the community would have stood up to support them.

[Anonymous]

How will the WTU react when DCPS starts bringing in teachers from abroad on H-1 visas to fill the vacancies? This is where this is heading . . .