how many trailers are acceptable?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:“We” is our community! Our school district. Everyone who lives in FCPS bounds is responsible to providing our kids a public school education. As per a recent PTA meeting, we have 168 kids in the grade plus specials teachers. I sat and listened to how the kids essentially only go into their school building for the cafeteria, bathrooms or gym. AND while I’m certain the principal and school staff are doing everything they can to make the best of the situation, it is these kids community that owe them, yes OWE them a properly functioning school. My youngest hasn’t even started elementary yet (oldest is already there). None of this will be solved on the current time line prior to either finishing high school!


Neat. Your kid is entitled to a class and a teacher. The teacher doesn’t have to be someone you like and approve of and the classroom doesn’t have to be in a permanent building.

Next!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:FCPS needs to redraw its school boundaries to redistribute the student population.


And then the same parents screaming about trailers will scream about either moving schools or more people coming into theirs.

Literally anything they do y’all will hate.


The curse of active involved parents who want high standards.



You aren’t entitled to what you want. Enjoy paying for private.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Time to get rid of French immersion. It would free up space as more families move to the area, reduce traffic and create a true neighborhood school


Sure, and let’s get rid of AAP, IB, Academy programs, and TJHSST while we’re at it. That would all free up funds and/or create more “true neighborhood schools.”


Not happening.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:FCPS needs to redraw its school boundaries to redistribute the student population.


And then the same parents screaming about trailers will scream about either moving schools or more people coming into theirs.

Literally anything they do y’all will hate.


The curse of active involved parents who want high standards.



You aren’t entitled to what you want. Enjoy paying for private.


Actually, according to FCPS, "Each student is entitled to an excellent education that meets his or her individual needs."

https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/beliefs-mission-vision

Active, involved parents are going to be demanding and demand that FCPS meets their self-imposed obligations. Everyone should demand that FCPS does the best they can to achieve that. Mediocrity should never ever be tolerated for our kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“We” is our community! Our school district. Everyone who lives in FCPS bounds is responsible to providing our kids a public school education. As per a recent PTA meeting, we have 168 kids in the grade plus specials teachers. I sat and listened to how the kids essentially only go into their school building for the cafeteria, bathrooms or gym. AND while I’m certain the principal and school staff are doing everything they can to make the best of the situation, it is these kids community that owe them, yes OWE them a properly functioning school. My youngest hasn’t even started elementary yet (oldest is already there). None of this will be solved on the current time line prior to either finishing high school!


Neat. Your kid is entitled to a class and a teacher. The teacher doesn’t have to be someone you like and approve of and the classroom doesn’t have to be in a permanent building.

Next!


I can’t wait until Elaine Tholen, from the vantage point of her Great Falls mansion and enjoying the many millions FCPS has lavished on Langley and now Cooper, tried to campaign on this subsistence message next year.

Should be fun.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Time to get rid of French immersion. It would free up space as more families move to the area, reduce traffic and create a true neighborhood school


Sure, and let’s get rid of AAP, IB, Academy programs, and TJHSST while we’re at it. That would all free up funds and/or create more “true neighborhood schools.”


Good idea to get rid of IB! Ot have it at 2 schools academy style. Academy programs are valuable and TJHSST could join other VA governers schools run on an academy model rather than full time. One problem with Kent Gardens is that fact that it is run as a true neighborhood school and an Arlington County option school simultaneously.

Given it's walkable neiighborhood location for many students and narrow no yellow line access roads , the location makes no sense. Those programs went in willy nilly decades ago. FCPS even had JIP at 2 adjacent sites-Fox Mill and Floris.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Time to get rid of French immersion. It would free up space as more families move to the area, reduce traffic and create a true neighborhood school


Sure, and let’s get rid of AAP, IB, Academy programs, and TJHSST while we’re at it. That would all free up funds and/or create more “true neighborhood schools.”


Good idea to get rid of IB! Ot have it at 2 schools academy style. Academy programs are valuable and TJHSST could join other VA governers schools run on an academy model rather than full time. One problem with Kent Gardens is that fact that it is run as a true neighborhood school and an Arlington County option school simultaneously.

Given it's walkable neiighborhood location for many students and narrow no yellow line access roads , the location makes no sense. Those programs went in willy nilly decades ago. FCPS even had JIP at 2 adjacent sites-Fox Mill and Floris.




In the scheme of things the fact that FCPS has concentrated so many IB programs at high schools in the southeastern part of the county (Annandale, Edison, Justice, Lewis, Mount Vernon) where students are actually less likely to take IB courses is a bigger issue than having a French immersion program at an elementary school in an area where there are a lot of parents with diplomatic ties or otherwise interested in immersion.

Removing immersion from KG is a non-starter. FCPS already under-invests in the McLean pyramid in terms of both operating and capital expenditures and not even Elaine Tholen, who has neglected the pyramid for three years, is going to strip KG of its immersion program.

What they are doing is starting to cut back on out-of-boundary placements (from 40% to 25%), which shouldn't be especially controversial, since some immersion programs are already school-based only. And if the KG area continues to attract more families (it is mostly a single-family area, but there are a lot of older houses getting torn down and replaced with bigger houses purchased by younger families with kids), they can adjust the KG boundaries with Chesterbrook and/or Franklin Sherman. If there is further demand for French immersion, they can add such a program to another school, such as Dunn Loring when it reopens, or to one of the existing under-enrolled elementary schools elsewhere in the county.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Time to get rid of French immersion. It would free up space as more families move to the area, reduce traffic and create a true neighborhood school


Sure, and let’s get rid of AAP, IB, Academy programs, and TJHSST while we’re at it. That would all free up funds and/or create more “true neighborhood schools.”


Good idea to get rid of IB! Ot have it at 2 schools academy style. Academy programs are valuable and TJHSST could join other VA governers schools run on an academy model rather than full time. One problem with Kent Gardens is that fact that it is run as a true neighborhood school and an Arlington County option school simultaneously.

Given it's walkable neiighborhood location for many students and narrow no yellow line access roads , the location makes no sense. Those programs went in willy nilly decades ago. FCPS even had JIP at 2 adjacent sites-Fox Mill and Floris.




In the scheme of things the fact that FCPS has concentrated so many IB programs at high schools in the southeastern part of the county (Annandale, Edison, Justice, Lewis, Mount Vernon) where students are actually less likely to take IB courses is a bigger issue than having a French immersion program at an elementary school in an area where there are a lot of parents with diplomatic ties or otherwise interested in immersion.

Removing immersion from KG is a non-starter. ... If there is further demand for French immersion, they can add such a program to another school, such as Dunn Loring when it reopens, or to one of the existing under-enrolled elementary schools elsewhere in the county.


Having a French Immersion program is not the issue-the location is the issue for a program of that scope. Exactly what magical programs do you think exist in other pyramids or magisterial districts that are not driven by FARMS or ESL? Dual immersion was started 1st at Lake Anne and the purpose at all sites is to provide more support for ESL students. All get AAP and those IB programs went in with the same lack of division wide planning as the initial sites for immersion. FCPS had more stuff available and whatever SB or principal at a given time chose it.

There are the 2 elementary magnet programs that get 7 extra staff and $ in transportation.
Anonymous
We are at Fox Mill and love the Japanese Immersion program. I have no problem with including out of boundary kids in the program but our school is not over crowded. The additional kids in the program help it stay viable. I know that some immersion programs are limited to people who are in boundary for that school and I think that is fine. If a specialized program is leading to over crowding then common sense says that you limit access to that program.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We are at Fox Mill and love the Japanese Immersion program. I have no problem with including out of boundary kids in the program but our school is not over crowded. The additional kids in the program help it stay viable. I know that some immersion programs are limited to people who are in boundary for that school and I think that is fine. If a specialized program is leading to over crowding then common sense says that you limit access to that program.


9:43 here. JIP also used to be at Floris and is still at Great Falls. Either Fox Mill or Floris used to get additional staff beyond 1.5 to not drain reg ed teachers.
2 programs for the same language at adjacent schools is evidence of the random nature of where the program was installed. The merger
http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2005/oct/12/japanese-program-moving/

Even at peak numbers pre Colvin Run the GFES JIP did not have the numbers pre merger. CRES did not want the JIP but it did open an AAP center. It seems that Fritsch might have stumbled upon an obvious solution for French with Dunn Loring. But that leaves FCPS with 2 French sites in the scope of things beng in the same area of the county?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are at Fox Mill and love the Japanese Immersion program. I have no problem with including out of boundary kids in the program but our school is not over crowded. The additional kids in the program help it stay viable. I know that some immersion programs are limited to people who are in boundary for that school and I think that is fine. If a specialized program is leading to over crowding then common sense says that you limit access to that program.


9:43 here. JIP also used to be at Floris and is still at Great Falls. Either Fox Mill or Floris used to get additional staff beyond 1.5 to not drain reg ed teachers.
2 programs for the same language at adjacent schools is evidence of the random nature of where the program was installed. The merger
http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2005/oct/12/japanese-program-moving/

Even at peak numbers pre Colvin Run the GFES JIP did not have the numbers pre merger. CRES did not want the JIP but it did open an AAP center. It seems that Fritsch might have stumbled upon an obvious solution for French with Dunn Loring. But that leaves FCPS with 2 French sites in the scope of things beng in the same area of the county?


Great Falls has JIP but rumor has it that it is being phased out, they never got to the numbers to have 2 classes. What I have heard is that GFES is finishing out the current crop of JIP kids but has not added classes for the last few years. I know a fifth grader in JIP at GFES so I don't know when this started.

Fox Mill has 2 JIP classes and switch teachers mid way in the day. The classes start with 30 or more kids in first grade. DC is in fifth now and the classes are 19 and 22 kids. I don't know if we have an extra Teacher or not, the classes would be large enough to have 2 Teachers any way. We have 1 Teacher for Math/Science in Japanese and 1 Teacher for LA/Social Studies in English. I think the Gen Ed classes are smaller then usual in some of the grades, maybe that is where the extra Teacher is?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are at Fox Mill and love the Japanese Immersion program. I have no problem with including out of boundary kids in the program but our school is not over crowded. The additional kids in the program help it stay viable. I know that some immersion programs are limited to people who are in boundary for that school and I think that is fine. If a specialized program is leading to over crowding then common sense says that you limit access to that program.


9:43 here. JIP also used to be at Floris and is still at Great Falls. Either Fox Mill or Floris used to get additional staff beyond 1.5 to not drain reg ed teachers.
2 programs for the same language at adjacent schools is evidence of the random nature of where the program was installed. The merger
http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2005/oct/12/japanese-program-moving/

Even at peak numbers pre Colvin Run the GFES JIP did not have the numbers pre merger. CRES did not want the JIP but it did open an AAP center. It seems that Fritsch might have stumbled upon an obvious solution for French with Dunn Loring. But that leaves FCPS with 2 French sites in the scope of things beng in the same area of the county?


Dunn Loring is in Vienna/Merrifield. Kent Gardens is in McLean. They aren't really in the same area of the county. FCPS needs to come up with something else to justify Frisch's folly in Dunn Loring, where an administrative building surrounded by under-enrolled ES is being renovated.
Anonymous
Another possibility with Kent Gardens is to move part of KG to Haycock, and part of Haycock to under-enrolled Lemon Road. Keeps kids at the same MS/HS and makes Lemon Road, which is already a split feeder to Kilmer/Marshall and Longfellow/McLean, more evenly balanced (Lemon Road sits within the Longfellow/McLean boundaries but most kids at the school go to Kilmer/Marshall).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are at Fox Mill and love the Japanese Immersion program. I have no problem with including out of boundary kids in the program but our school is not over crowded. The additional kids in the program help it stay viable. I know that some immersion programs are limited to people who are in boundary for that school and I think that is fine. If a specialized program is leading to over crowding then common sense says that you limit access to that program.


9:43 here. JIP also used to be at Floris and is still at Great Falls. Either Fox Mill or Floris used to get additional staff beyond 1.5 to not drain reg ed teachers.
2 programs for the same language at adjacent schools is evidence of the random nature of where the program was installed. The merger
http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2005/oct/12/japanese-program-moving/

Even at peak numbers pre Colvin Run the GFES JIP did not have the numbers pre merger. CRES did not want the JIP but it did open an AAP center. It seems that Fritsch might have stumbled upon an obvious solution for French with Dunn Loring. But that leaves FCPS with 2 French sites in the scope of things beng in the same area of the county?


It's Frisch, not Fritsch, and you will search in vain for any suggestion when the School Board decided to shift the $35M set aside to build a school further west to accelerate a Dunn Loring renovation that the intent was to make Dunn Loring an immersion school.

Of course, they will need to justify the building's redeployment as an elementary school when it is surrounded by schools that are projected to be under-enrolled like Cunningham Park, Freedom Hill, and Vienna, and if adding an immersion program there helps attract kids, great, but robbing KG of a long-running, successful program to make Frisch look better isn't an option.

The whole situation reminds me of the Shrevewood fiasco, where it looked like there was a common-sense quick solution to Shrevewood overcrowding that would involve relatively limited boundary changes at three schools, and could be implemented quickly, and instead relief is going to be delayed for years because Frisch pushed the DL renovation that is going to take years instead. The overcrowding at KG is real, and also a problem, but also one that can be fixed relatively easy if only the right people were actually paying attention. Tholen thinks she is being helpful by reducing the percentage of out-of-boundary kids allowed to attend KG, but of course is allowing it to be phased in so slowly that, with the additional families with kids moving into the KG district, it won't have the net effect expected.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are at Fox Mill and love the Japanese Immersion program. I have no problem with including out of boundary kids in the program but our school is not over crowded. The additional kids in the program help it stay viable. I know that some immersion programs are limited to people who are in boundary for that school and I think that is fine. If a specialized program is leading to over crowding then common sense says that you limit access to that program.


9:43 here. JIP also used to be at Floris and is still at Great Falls. Either Fox Mill or Floris used to get additional staff beyond 1.5 to not drain reg ed teachers.
2 programs for the same language at adjacent schools is evidence of the random nature of where the program was installed. The merger
http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2005/oct/12/japanese-program-moving/

Even at peak numbers pre Colvin Run the GFES JIP did not have the numbers pre merger. CRES did not want the JIP but it did open an AAP center. It seems that Fritsch might have stumbled upon an obvious solution for French with Dunn Loring. But that leaves FCPS with 2 French sites in the scope of things beng in the same area of the county?


Dunn Loring is in Vienna/Merrifield. Kent Gardens is in McLean. They aren't really in the same area of the county. FCPS needs to come up with something else to justify Frisch's folly in Dunn Loring, where an administrative building surrounded by under-enrolled ES is being renovated.
They are only 4.2 miles apart a 12 minute drive according to google. That is fairly close for the district.
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