UT Austin vs UVA?

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OP, if you don’t care, send your kid to TX. My kid wants UVA. TIA.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is that OP's kid is a swimmer. I would push for UVA if this were my swimmer. School is slightly smaller and swimmers at UVA will be slightly more academic that at UT, especially if this is your son vs. daughter. Charlottesville is a more manageable town than Austin, and UVA has a better academic reputation. That all being said, they are both excellent schools, so see where your kid feels more comfortable from an athletic perspective. If your kid is a sprinter, UVA is probably better. If flyer or distance free, Texas may be a better fit. If you are from this area, Texas may be a big adjustment. Good luck!

Quite impressive if there are swimming offers from those two schools.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is that OP's kid is a swimmer. I would push for UVA if this were my swimmer. School is slightly smaller and swimmers at UVA will be slightly more academic that at UT, especially if this is your son vs. daughter. Charlottesville is a more manageable town than Austin, and UVA has a better academic reputation. That all being said, they are both excellent schools, so see where your kid feels more comfortable from an athletic perspective. If your kid is a sprinter, UVA is probably better. If flyer or distance free, Texas may be a better fit. If you are from this area, Texas may be a big adjustment. Good luck!

Why would you guess that OP’s kid is a swimmer?

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Anonymous wrote:thoughts on national reputation, academics, and social life?

UVA is overall a much better school for most liberal arts majors but UT seems to do better on STEM fields. Nevertheless, living in a red state these days is kind of sketchy especially with academic suppression and curtailing free speech. I don't think this bodes well for schools in these places.

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Anonymous wrote:thoughts on national reputation, academics, and social life?

UVA is overall a much better school for most liberal arts majors but UT seems to do better on STEM fields. Nevertheless, living in a red state these days is kind of sketchy especially with academic suppression and curtailing free speech. I don't think this bodes well for schools in these places.

First- liberal arts includes sciences, so it is not the opposite of STEM. Secondly, I think you are underrecogning how strong the departments at UT are. I don't think it is especially important at an undergrad level, since I think that a given undergrad can get a great education at either place. but, it is ridiculous to say that UVA is a much better school, particulalrly without pointing to any data.
Department rankings: UVA, UT
English- 11, 17
History- 18, 11
Sociology- 34, 11

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Anonymous wrote:Public Universities With Most Graduate Schools and Specialties Ranked in the Top 10 by USNWR

Rank University 2023
1 University of California, Berkeley 122
2 University of Michigan 118
3 University of California, Los Angeles 61
4 The University of Texas at Austin 55
5 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 41
5 University of Wisconsin 41
7 University of Washington 40
7 University of Illinois 40
9 Indiana University 26
10 Ohio State University 22
10 Pennsylvania State University 22
12 Georgia Institute of Technology 20
12 University of Minnesota 20
14 University of Virginia 17
15 Purdue University 16

Talk about a meaningless ranking for someone considering undergraduate work

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Anonymous wrote:Public Universities With Most Graduate Schools and Specialties Ranked in the Top 10 by USNWR

Rank University 2023
1 University of California, Berkeley 122
2 University of Michigan 118
3 University of California, Los Angeles 61
4 The University of Texas at Austin 55
5 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 41
5 University of Wisconsin 41
7 University of Washington 40
7 University of Illinois 40
9 Indiana University 26
10 Ohio State University 22
10 Pennsylvania State University 22
12 Georgia Institute of Technology 20
12 University of Minnesota 20
14 University of Virginia 17
15 Purdue University 16

Talk about a meaningless ranking for someone considering undergraduate work

Talk about a meaningless thread. The obsession with these types of things on DCUM and the subsequent inane bickering that ensues is strange.

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As a recruited athlete, definitely Texas. Texas goes all in for all sports. And the alumni network is second to none.

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Anonymous wrote:thoughts on national reputation, academics, and social life?

UVA is overall a much better school for most liberal arts majors but UT seems to do better on STEM fields. Nevertheless, living in a red state these days is kind of sketchy especially with academic suppression and curtailing free speech. I don't think this bodes well for schools in these places.

First- liberal arts includes sciences, so it is not the opposite of STEM. Secondly, I think you are underrecogning how strong the departments at UT are. I don't think it is especially important at an undergrad level, since I think that a given undergrad can get a great education at either place. but, it is ridiculous to say that UVA is a much better school, particulalrly without pointing to any data.
Department rankings: UVA, UT
English- 11, 17
History- 18, 11
Sociology- 34, 11

Liberal arts does not include sciences, which is why the college is often named "Liberal Arts and Sciences". And STEM does not include social sciences.

UT has a strong graduate department for humanities & social sciences. But for an undergraduate education in humanities, the small class sizes matter much more than graduate research.

This is the opposite for STEM - graduate research means top tier facilities that undergrads can use. And STEM lectures are not discussion-heavy so the small class sizes are unimportant.

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Anonymous wrote:thoughts on national reputation, academics, and social life?

UVA is overall a much better school for most liberal arts majors but UT seems to do better on STEM fields. Nevertheless, living in a red state these days is kind of sketchy especially with academic suppression and curtailing free speech. I don't think this bodes well for schools in these places.

First- liberal arts includes sciences, so it is not the opposite of STEM. Secondly, I think you are underrecogning how strong the departments at UT are. I don't think it is especially important at an undergrad level, since I think that a given undergrad can get a great education at either place. but, it is ridiculous to say that UVA is a much better school, particulalrly without pointing to any data.
Department rankings: UVA, UT
English- 11, 17
History- 18, 11
Sociology- 34, 11

Liberal arts does not include sciences, which is why the college is often named "Liberal Arts and Sciences". And STEM does not include social sciences.

UT has a strong graduate department for humanities & social sciences. But for an undergraduate education in humanities, the small class sizes matter much more than graduate research.

This is the opposite for STEM - graduate research means top tier facilities that undergrads can use. And STEM lectures are not discussion-heavy so the small class sizes are unimportant.

You are wrong, liberal arts absolutely includes STEM fields such as math, biology, chemistry. Those are liberal arts. And no most schools don't say "liberal arts and sciences", in fact name one? They may says "arts and sciences" such as UVA, but not "liberal arts and sciences". You are wrong.

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Sure Texas who has a bounty hunting women law. Texas who literally hates women. Texas who will imprison your college student?

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Anonymous wrote:USNWR ranks UVA at 25 and Austin at 38. No contest, especially if instate.

So nothing other than USNWR matters. Princeton should always be chosen over Harvard, Stanford, MIT, etc.

It is the first ranking system developed and remains the gold standard to this day. Ask any college counselor. all the others are copycats to sell ads and make money

True.

Pretty sure that is what USNWR does as well. It may be the only profitable business remaining for USNWR. They sure don't do it as a public service.

Of course it makes money. That's why it's the only part of the magazine left. Nevertheless it's 40 years old and the gold standard.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is every bit as good as UTA for business.

UVA McIntire is much better in fact.

The catch is you have to apply for the business program in 2nd year.
The acceptance rate to the program is around 55-60%

Big risk but it's much better than UTA.

I would not choose either for Business especially when UTA is OOS
People should know what they are talking about.

UVA McIntire is not "much better in fact". I do dislike rankings, but UT is ranked 7 in higher rated in USNWR, vs T8 for UVA, so there is that. UT is a direct admit, which makes it better for those who really want to concentrate in business for most of 4 years vs. 2 years. This is particularly helpful in areas like accounting, if that is what you want to do.

You are wrong. In 2021, McIntire's B.S. in Commerce once again ranked as the 2nd best undergraduate business program overall in the U.S. by business education website Poets&Quants, and was ranked 1st in the U.S. by alumni satisfaction for student experience, maintaining a top three spot on the list for the fourth consecutive year.

McIntire School of Commerce - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › McIntire_School_of_Co...

2nd best is too much of stretch, but it's a level above UT's McComb

Here is USNWR ranking for UT McCombs:

7 Overall (ahead of McIntire)
1 in Accounting
2 in Production Operations
4 in Finance
4 in Management Information Systems
4 in Real Estate
4 in Marketing
5 in Management
6 in Insurance Risk
6 in Quantitative Analysis
7 in Business Analytics
8 in Supply Chain
9 in Entrepreneurship
10 in International Business

Higher than UVA McIntire in every single category, I believe.

and you are still wrong: In 2021, McIntire's B.S. in Commerce once again ranked as the 2nd best undergraduate business program overall in the U.S. by business education website Poets&Quants, and was ranked 1st in the U.S. by alumni satisfaction for student experience, maintaining a top three spot on the list for the fourth consecutive year.

McIntire School of Commerce - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › McIntire_School_of_Co...
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Anonymous wrote:Public Universities With Most Graduate Schools and Specialties Ranked in the Top 10 by USNWR

Rank University 2023
1 University of California, Berkeley 122
2 University of Michigan 118
3 University of California, Los Angeles 61
4 The University of Texas at Austin 55
5 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 41
5 University of Wisconsin 41
7 University of Washington 40
7 University of Illinois 40
9 Indiana University 26
10 Ohio State University 22
10 Pennsylvania State University 22
12 Georgia Institute of Technology 20
12 University of Minnesota 20
14 University of Virginia 17
15 Purdue University 16

Talk about a meaningless ranking for someone considering undergraduate work

Hardly meaningless. It just proves, once again, that Berkeley and Michigan are a cut above the rest of the nation’s publics.

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Anonymous wrote:Public Universities With Most Graduate Schools and Specialties Ranked in the Top 10 by USNWR

Rank University 2023
1 University of California, Berkeley 122
2 University of Michigan 118
3 University of California, Los Angeles 61
4 The University of Texas at Austin 55
5 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 41
5 University of Wisconsin 41
7 University of Washington 40
7 University of Illinois 40
9 Indiana University 26
10 Ohio State University 22
10 Pennsylvania State University 22
12 Georgia Institute of Technology 20
12 University of Minnesota 20
14 University of Virginia 17
15 Purdue University 16

Talk about a meaningless ranking for someone considering undergraduate work

Wow. This ranking proves that UVA is just an also-ran in worldwide prestige.