Does this mean "White" is a minority now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whites have not been the top race at MCPS for a couple years now.

Of course, MCPS ignores this, and still ignores them. Here's the 5 groups they focus on for the Equity Accountability Model:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

1. Black, not low-income
2. Latino, not low-income
3. White/Asian, low-income
4. Black, low-income
5. Latino, low-income

In other words, they focus on every group except whites and asians who are not low-income. If you're Latino, which is the largest group at MCPS, you're a focus regardless of income.

This is true and it is a great example of their attempt to throw middle school solutions at Ph.D. problems. Their intent is good. Their execution is not. They create more, unintended harms, and they haven't figured out to mitigate those yet.

Actually, I disagree. There intent is not good! They are intentionally hyper-focused on race. Inappropriate and useless.

I want the school system to focus on showing that ALL kids are improving. Regardless of race. Focusing on the students’ race doesn’t help anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whites have not been the top race at MCPS for a couple years now.

Of course, MCPS ignores this, and still ignores them. Here's the 5 groups they focus on for the Equity Accountability Model:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

1. Black, not low-income
2. Latino, not low-income
3. White/Asian, low-income
4. Black, low-income
5. Latino, low-income

In other words, they focus on every group except whites and asians who are not low-income. If you're Latino, which is the largest group at MCPS, you're a focus regardless of income.

This is true and it is a great example of their attempt to throw middle school solutions at Ph.D. problems. Their intent is good. Their execution is not. They create more, unintended harms, and they haven't figured out to mitigate those yet.

Actually, I disagree. There intent is not good! They are intentionally hyper-focused on race. Inappropriate and useless.

I want the school system to focus on showing that ALL kids are improving. Regardless of race. Focusing on the students’ race doesn’t help anything.

Perhaps part of their politics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hspanic / Latino 33.4%
White 25.3%
African American 21.9%
Asian 14.1%
MCPS Student Demographics
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/annualreport/2021/#StudentDemoModal

I'm a little fuzzy on the definitions of who is considered a "minority" race / ethnic group at MCPS now?

Most Latinos are (and see themselves as) fully or partially white, so that anglo-racial way to look at trends is quite misleading.

You can certainly say that WASPs are a minority, but not Whites.

You can’t really generalize Latinos. Mexican families that immigrated to the US Southwest as well as many Cubans may consider themselves “white” but newer Central American Latinos in the DC area are more mestizo (native Indian) and basically consider being Hispanic a race separate from white.

You can certainly access data from US Census.

Half of all Hispanics only mark White in the race box, the other half marks White AND Others.

That’s because of all the Mexican immigrants and now their 1st,2nd,3rd,4th gen families in the southwest and California marking white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whites have not been the top race at MCPS for a couple years now.

Of course, MCPS ignores this, and still ignores them. Here's the 5 groups they focus on for the Equity Accountability Model:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

1. Black, not low-income
2. Latino, not low-income
3. White/Asian, low-income
4. Black, low-income
5. Latino, low-income

In other words, they focus on every group except whites and asians who are not low-income. If you're Latino, which is the largest group at MCPS, you're a focus regardless of income.

This is true and it is a great example of their attempt to throw middle school solutions at Ph.D. problems. Their intent is good. Their execution is not. They create more, unintended harms, and they haven't figured out to mitigate those yet.

Actually, I disagree. There intent is not good! They are intentionally hyper-focused on race. Inappropriate and useless.

I want the school system to focus on showing that ALL kids are improving. Regardless of race. Focusing on the students’ race doesn’t help anything.

Fair enough. But I do think they want to reduce inequities. But they have defined that in an almost impossible way to fix. They want to make sure race is no longer a predictor of outcomes. And that leads them to do all kinds of messed up stuff in the name of equity. When they should be doing what you are saying. Meeting each kid where they are and helping each kid improve. It won't close the disparities because many of the disparities are created outside the school system. But that's what I mean by throwing middle school solutions at Ph.D. problems. They are trying to fix things out of their control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whites have not been the top race at MCPS for a couple years now.

Of course, MCPS ignores this, and still ignores them. Here's the 5 groups they focus on for the Equity Accountability Model:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

1. Black, not low-income
2. Latino, not low-income
3. White/Asian, low-income
4. Black, low-income
5. Latino, low-income

In other words, they focus on every group except whites and asians who are not low-income. If you're Latino, which is the largest group at MCPS, you're a focus regardless of income.

This is true and it is a great example of their attempt to throw middle school solutions at Ph.D. problems. Their intent is good. Their execution is not. They create more, unintended harms, and they haven't figured out to mitigate those yet.

Actually, I disagree. There intent is not good! They are intentionally hyper-focused on race. Inappropriate and useless.

I want the school system to focus on showing that ALL kids are improving. Regardless of race. Focusing on the students’ race doesn’t help anything.

Fair enough. But I do think they want to reduce inequities. But they have defined that in an almost impossible way to fix. They want to make sure race is no longer a predictor of outcomes. And that leads them to do all kinds of messed up stuff in the name of equity. When they should be doing what you are saying. Meeting each kid where they are and helping each kid improve. It won't close the disparities because many of the disparities are created outside the school system. But that's what I mean by throwing middle school solutions at Ph.D. problems. They are trying to fix things out of their control.

Yes to this! Honestly, they are making things worse with their obsession with race. And they are being divisive, instead of encouraging a strong sense of ‘community’.

But yes, meet each kid where they are and demonstrate that the kids are making progress.

Quit the focus on the ‘achievement gap’ and simply focus on student progress.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whites have not been the top race at MCPS for a couple years now.

Of course, MCPS ignores this, and still ignores them. Here's the 5 groups they focus on for the Equity Accountability Model:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

1. Black, not low-income
2. Latino, not low-income
3. White/Asian, low-income
4. Black, low-income
5. Latino, low-income

In other words, they focus on every group except whites and asians who are not low-income. If you're Latino, which is the largest group at MCPS, you're a focus regardless of income.

This is true and it is a great example of their attempt to throw middle school solutions at Ph.D. problems. Their intent is good. Their execution is not. They create more, unintended harms, and they haven't figured out to mitigate those yet.

Actually, I disagree. There intent is not good! They are intentionally hyper-focused on race. Inappropriate and useless.

I want the school system to focus on showing that ALL kids are improving. Regardless of race. Focusing on the students’ race doesn’t help anything.

Fair enough. But I do think they want to reduce inequities. But they have defined that in an almost impossible way to fix. They want to make sure race is no longer a predictor of outcomes. And that leads them to do all kinds of messed up stuff in the name of equity. When they should be doing what you are saying. Meeting each kid where they are and helping each kid improve. It won't close the disparities because many of the disparities are created outside the school system. But that's what I mean by throwing middle school solutions at Ph.D. problems. They are trying to fix things out of their control.

Yes to this! Honestly, they are making things worse with their obsession with race. And they are being divisive, instead of encouraging a strong sense of ‘community’.

But yes, meet each kid where they are and demonstrate that the kids are making progress.

Quit the focus on the ‘achievement gap’ and simply focus on student progress.

A normal sensible person will do this but when someone is politically motivated and determined to deprive one particular group of magnet opportunities, then what can you do? Just move to places where there are opportunities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whites have not been the top race at MCPS for a couple years now.

Of course, MCPS ignores this, and still ignores them. Here's the 5 groups they focus on for the Equity Accountability Model:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

1. Black, not low-income
2. Latino, not low-income
3. White/Asian, low-income
4. Black, low-income
5. Latino, low-income

In other words, they focus on every group except whites and asians who are not low-income. If you're Latino, which is the largest group at MCPS, you're a focus regardless of income.

This is true and it is a great example of their attempt to throw middle school solutions at Ph.D. problems. Their intent is good. Their execution is not. They create more, unintended harms, and they haven't figured out to mitigate those yet.

Actually, I disagree. There intent is not good! They are intentionally hyper-focused on race. Inappropriate and useless.

I want the school system to focus on showing that ALL kids are improving. Regardless of race. Focusing on the students’ race doesn’t help anything.

Fair enough. But I do think they want to reduce inequities. But they have defined that in an almost impossible way to fix. They want to make sure race is no longer a predictor of outcomes. And that leads them to do all kinds of messed up stuff in the name of equity. When they should be doing what you are saying. Meeting each kid where they are and helping each kid improve. It won't close the disparities because many of the disparities are created outside the school system. But that's what I mean by throwing middle school solutions at Ph.D. problems. They are trying to fix things out of their control.

Yes to this! Honestly, they are making things worse with their obsession with race. And they are being divisive, instead of encouraging a strong sense of ‘community’.

But yes, meet each kid where they are and demonstrate that the kids are making progress.

Quit the focus on the ‘achievement gap’ and simply focus on student progress.

I agree about the divisiness. If you look at Fairfax County's racial equity program, One Fairfax, it's a very collaborative effort that shows how everyone benefits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whites have not been the top race at MCPS for a couple years now.

Of course, MCPS ignores this, and still ignores them. Here's the 5 groups they focus on for the Equity Accountability Model:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

1. Black, not low-income
2. Latino, not low-income
3. White/Asian, low-income
4. Black, low-income
5. Latino, low-income

In other words, they focus on every group except whites and asians who are not low-income. If you're Latino, which is the largest group at MCPS, you're a focus regardless of income.

This is true and it is a great example of their attempt to throw middle school solutions at Ph.D. problems. Their intent is good. Their execution is not. They create more, unintended harms, and they haven't figured out to mitigate those yet.

Actually, I disagree. There intent is not good! They are intentionally hyper-focused on race. Inappropriate and useless.

I want the school system to focus on showing that ALL kids are improving. Regardless of race. Focusing on the students’ race doesn’t help anything.

Fair enough. But I do think they want to reduce inequities. But they have defined that in an almost impossible way to fix. They want to make sure race is no longer a predictor of outcomes. And that leads them to do all kinds of messed up stuff in the name of equity. When they should be doing what you are saying. Meeting each kid where they are and helping each kid improve. It won't close the disparities because many of the disparities are created outside the school system. But that's what I mean by throwing middle school solutions at Ph.D. problems. They are trying to fix things out of their control.

Yes to this! Honestly, they are making things worse with their obsession with race. And they are being divisive, instead of encouraging a strong sense of ‘community’.

But yes, meet each kid where they are and demonstrate that the kids are making progress.

Quit the focus on the ‘achievement gap’ and simply focus on student progress.

I agree about the divisiness. If you look at Fairfax County's racial equity program, One Fairfax, it's a very collaborative effort that shows how everyone benefits.

This is a joke, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whites have not been the top race at MCPS for a couple years now.

Of course, MCPS ignores this, and still ignores them. Here's the 5 groups they focus on for the Equity Accountability Model:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

1. Black, not low-income
2. Latino, not low-income
3. White/Asian, low-income
4. Black, low-income
5. Latino, low-income

In other words, they focus on every group except whites and asians who are not low-income. If you're Latino, which is the largest group at MCPS, you're a focus regardless of income.

This is true and it is a great example of their attempt to throw middle school solutions at Ph.D. problems. Their intent is good. Their execution is not. They create more, unintended harms, and they haven't figured out to mitigate those yet.

Actually, I disagree. There intent is not good! They are intentionally hyper-focused on race. Inappropriate and useless.

I want the school system to focus on showing that ALL kids are improving. Regardless of race. Focusing on the students’ race doesn’t help anything.

Fair enough. But I do think they want to reduce inequities. But they have defined that in an almost impossible way to fix. They want to make sure race is no longer a predictor of outcomes. And that leads them to do all kinds of messed up stuff in the name of equity. When they should be doing what you are saying. Meeting each kid where they are and helping each kid improve. It won't close the disparities because many of the disparities are created outside the school system. But that's what I mean by throwing middle school solutions at Ph.D. problems. They are trying to fix things out of their control.

That sounds bad but I'm skeptical. Can you provide any concrete examples?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whites have not been the top race at MCPS for a couple years now.

Of course, MCPS ignores this, and still ignores them. Here's the 5 groups they focus on for the Equity Accountability Model:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

1. Black, not low-income
2. Latino, not low-income
3. White/Asian, low-income
4. Black, low-income
5. Latino, low-income

In other words, they focus on every group except whites and asians who are not low-income. If you're Latino, which is the largest group at MCPS, you're a focus regardless of income.

This is true and it is a great example of their attempt to throw middle school solutions at Ph.D. problems. Their intent is good. Their execution is not. They create more, unintended harms, and they haven't figured out to mitigate those yet.

Actually, I disagree. There intent is not good! They are intentionally hyper-focused on race. Inappropriate and useless.

I want the school system to focus on showing that ALL kids are improving. Regardless of race. Focusing on the students’ race doesn’t help anything.

Fair enough. But I do think they want to reduce inequities. But they have defined that in an almost impossible way to fix. They want to make sure race is no longer a predictor of outcomes. And that leads them to do all kinds of messed up stuff in the name of equity. When they should be doing what you are saying. Meeting each kid where they are and helping each kid improve. It won't close the disparities because many of the disparities are created outside the school system. But that's what I mean by throwing middle school solutions at Ph.D. problems. They are trying to fix things out of their control.

That sounds bad but I'm skeptical. Can you provide any concrete examples?

Of course not because it's fiction but I sure do enjoy complaining!

[Anonymous]

This whole thread is gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is gross.

You can ignore instead of posting here.