Arlington stats on circumcision

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in arlington, but delivered in Dc at Sibley. According to my OB, since the procedure isn’t covered by insurance, people without means are choosing not to do it. So, I’d guess most boys at Williamsburg, if both here, will be circ. Most at Kenmore South of 50 won’t be. It’s mostly a socioeconomic thing.

Also delivered in DC, and the OB congratulated me for not doing it, saying she did not circ her sons either. So there’s more anecdata for you.

Excellent! It’s barbaric mutilation. In Europe no one does it, except maybe if it’s required by your religion. But I know here there are even Jewish organizations specifically rejecting circumcision based on medical and safety reasons.

My best friend had triplet boys in London. There was simply no mention of circumcision. Had she been here, she would had allowed the doctors to do it, because.... tradition! ...the doctors’ tradition.

I’ve heard the babies screaming at ceremonies. The women run out because they can’t bare it.

I don’t believe hospitals should do it without a parent present. But then most of them would halt the surgery before it was completed. It’s nothing short of torturous. Please just watch it happening.

So if you go with it, at least have the guts to stay to comfort your newborn son.

They put a numbing agent on the tip and then a local anesthesia for the whole penis. For my son, he can back from the procedure nurses and slept. No screaming.

I mean if you want to have to deal with nagging your son to remember to wash underneath his foreskin for the first thirteen years of his life because you couldn't be bothered to listen to the CDC and you wanted him to be "natural" then that's your right, but don't be surprised when he comes to you in tears asking you to pay for it when he's a teenager because some girl rejected him because of it and told all of her friends and now all the girls at school are calling him anteater.

Then I’ll be glad I helped him dodge a bullet because that hypothetical girl sounds awful

As someone who got a lot of use of mine (uncut) in high school and college I'm going to have to call major BS on this. Mild curiosity at most in the sheltered, didn't spoil appetite/enthusiasm.

Agree - girl, if not a figment of PP imagination, wouldn't last long on dating scene today being weird and awkward like that.

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Anonymous wrote:Only roughly 55% of newborns are circumcised in the US today. It varies widely by region and in metro vs rural areas. I can't find the data anymore, but some government website estimated that only about half of DC newborns were circumcised as of a few years ago. With the large international population here, most boys who move here also won't have been circumcised.

? My immigrant DH is cut.

PP said "most", not "all".

He comes from a part of the world immigrating to DC at a much faster clip than Western Europeans.

Not all international people in this area have immigrated here.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody should chop it

Science, the CDC and aap disagree

You do you, but the rest of the world disagrees with you. We are European and I think only practicing Jews circumcise there. No one I know, including families who are Jewish by descent but not especially religious, do that in the three European nations I have lived in. Nazis used that difference as a means to identify Jews, BTW. I think that's left a bitter memory in a lot of families.

Also European and 100% this. The cut ones are the unusual ones.

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Anonymous wrote:Only roughly 55% of newborns are circumcised in the US today. It varies widely by region and in metro vs rural areas. I can't find the data anymore, but some government website estimated that only about half of DC newborns were circumcised as of a few years ago. With the large international population here, most boys who move here also won't have been circumcised.

? My immigrant DH is cut.

PP said "most", not "all".

He comes from a part of the world immigrating to DC at a much faster clip than Western Europeans.

Not all international people in this area have immigrated here.

??? what are you getting at, there are so many European nationals who have not taken citizenship as to be relevant to this conversation?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in arlington, but delivered in Dc at Sibley. According to my OB, since the procedure isn’t covered by insurance, people without means are choosing not to do it. So, I’d guess most boys at Williamsburg, if both here, will be circ. Most at Kenmore South of 50 won’t be. It’s mostly a socioeconomic thing.

Also delivered in DC, and the OB congratulated me for not doing it, saying she did not circ her sons either. So there’s more anecdata for you.

Excellent! It’s barbaric mutilation. In Europe no one does it, except maybe if it’s required by your religion. But I know here there are even Jewish organizations specifically rejecting circumcision based on medical and safety reasons.

My best friend had triplet boys in London. There was simply no mention of circumcision. Had she been here, she would had allowed the doctors to do it, because.... tradition! ...the doctors’ tradition.

I’ve heard the babies screaming at ceremonies. The women run out because they can’t bare it.

I don’t believe hospitals should do it without a parent present. But then most of them would halt the surgery before it was completed. It’s nothing short of torturous. Please just watch it happening.

So if you go with it, at least have the guts to stay to comfort your newborn son.

They put a numbing agent on the tip and then a local anesthesia for the whole penis. For my son, he can back from the procedure nurses and slept. No screaming.

I mean if you want to have to deal with nagging your son to remember to wash underneath his foreskin for the first thirteen years of his life because you couldn't be bothered to listen to the CDC and you wanted him to be "natural" then that's your right, but don't be surprised when he comes to you in tears asking you to pay for it when he's a teenager because some girl rejected him because of it and told all of her friends and now all the girls at school are calling him anteater.

Then I’ll be glad I helped him dodge a bullet because that hypothetical girl sounds awful

The thing is, it's not just one hypothetical girl. These are the current top search results for "uncircumcised" on TikTok, the social media app that's currently the most popular with teenage girls (my daughter is on it 24/7). Watch any one of these and it should be pretty clear what the prevailing attitude among American teenagers is.

https://www.tiktok.com/@kidlyza/video/6947816074859547909

https://www.tiktok.com/@wizqueifa_/video/6925291904263359749

https://www.tiktok.com/@tina.the.latina/video/7081025197909757227

https://www.tiktok.com/@mayaspam/video/7116962248643448110

https://www.tiktok.com/@stickyspiders/video/7077022221352340782

https://www.tiktok.com/@nessanessa525/video/7115227253633551662

https://www.tiktok.com/@mckenna_wl/video/7067308074830269702

https://www.tiktok.com/@beonikamoni/video/7063637167565737263

https://www.tiktok.com/@.rileyroo06/video/7046439691305897262

https://www.tiktok.com/@sister_samuel/video/7056120202198699311

https://www.tiktok.com/@alexisbridges/video/7084310412891704622

It took me about two minutes to find these. Imagine how it would feel to be an uncut teenage boy seeing girls from their school posting videos like that. That can't be good for their self-esteem at all.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in arlington, but delivered in Dc at Sibley. According to my OB, since the procedure isn’t covered by insurance, people without means are choosing not to do it. So, I’d guess most boys at Williamsburg, if both here, will be circ. Most at Kenmore South of 50 won’t be. It’s mostly a socioeconomic thing.

Also delivered in DC, and the OB congratulated me for not doing it, saying she did not circ her sons either. So there’s more anecdata for you.

Excellent! It’s barbaric mutilation. In Europe no one does it, except maybe if it’s required by your religion. But I know here there are even Jewish organizations specifically rejecting circumcision based on medical and safety reasons.

My best friend had triplet boys in London. There was simply no mention of circumcision. Had she been here, she would had allowed the doctors to do it, because.... tradition! ...the doctors’ tradition.

I’ve heard the babies screaming at ceremonies. The women run out because they can’t bare it.

I don’t believe hospitals should do it without a parent present. But then most of them would halt the surgery before it was completed. It’s nothing short of torturous. Please just watch it happening.

So if you go with it, at least have the guts to stay to comfort your newborn son.

They put a numbing agent on the tip and then a local anesthesia for the whole penis. For my son, he can back from the procedure nurses and slept. No screaming.

I mean if you want to have to deal with nagging your son to remember to wash underneath his foreskin for the first thirteen years of his life because you couldn't be bothered to listen to the CDC and you wanted him to be "natural" then that's your right, but don't be surprised when he comes to you in tears asking you to pay for it when he's a teenager because some girl rejected him because of it and told all of her friends and now all the girls at school are calling him anteater.

Then I’ll be glad I helped him dodge a bullet because that hypothetical girl sounds awful

The thing is, it's not just one hypothetical girl. These are the current top search results for "uncircumcised" on TikTok, the social media app that's currently the most popular with teenage girls (my daughter is on it 24/7). Watch any one of these and it should be pretty clear what the prevailing attitude among American teenagers is.

https://www.tiktok.com/@kidlyza/video/6947816074859547909

https://www.tiktok.com/@wizqueifa_/video/6925291904263359749

https://www.tiktok.com/@tina.the.latina/video/7081025197909757227

https://www.tiktok.com/@mayaspam/video/7116962248643448110

https://www.tiktok.com/@stickyspiders/video/7077022221352340782

https://www.tiktok.com/@nessanessa525/video/7115227253633551662

https://www.tiktok.com/@mckenna_wl/video/7067308074830269702

https://www.tiktok.com/@beonikamoni/video/7063637167565737263

https://www.tiktok.com/@.rileyroo06/video/7046439691305897262

https://www.tiktok.com/@sister_samuel/video/7056120202198699311

https://www.tiktok.com/@alexisbridges/video/7084310412891704622

It took me about two minutes to find these. Imagine how it would feel to be an uncut teenage boy seeing girls from their school posting videos like that. That can't be good for their self-esteem at all.

This is the internet dear. Every idiot isn't limited to their own village anymore - they can be found by search by those with the same inclination. It is how we got Trump. Search "birds aren't real" and then come back and explain how your search strategy is a robust accurate census of prevailing opinion.

I do wonder if people were always stupid and the internet just reveals it - or is it making it worse.

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Anonymous wrote:Only roughly 55% of newborns are circumcised in the US today. It varies widely by region and in metro vs rural areas. I can't find the data anymore, but some government website estimated that only about half of DC newborns were circumcised as of a few years ago. With the large international population here, most boys who move here also won't have been circumcised.

? My immigrant DH is cut.

PP said "most", not "all".

He comes from a part of the world immigrating to DC at a much faster clip than Western Europeans.

Which area/country?

El Salvador is <1% circumcised.

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Anonymous wrote:Only roughly 55% of newborns are circumcised in the US today. It varies widely by region and in metro vs rural areas. I can't find the data anymore, but some government website estimated that only about half of DC newborns were circumcised as of a few years ago. With the large international population here, most boys who move here also won't have been circumcised.

? My immigrant DH is cut.

PP said "most", not "all".

He comes from a part of the world immigrating to DC at a much faster clip than Western Europeans.

Not all international people in this area have immigrated here.

??? what are you getting at, there are so many European nationals who have not taken citizenship as to be relevant to this conversation?

There are a lot of international people in the DC area. Not all are immigrants.

Circumcision is not common in most countries.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in arlington, but delivered in Dc at Sibley. According to my OB, since the procedure isn’t covered by insurance, people without means are choosing not to do it. So, I’d guess most boys at Williamsburg, if both here, will be circ. Most at Kenmore South of 50 won’t be. It’s mostly a socioeconomic thing.

Also delivered in DC, and the OB congratulated me for not doing it, saying she did not circ her sons either. So there’s more anecdata for you.

Excellent! It’s barbaric mutilation. In Europe no one does it, except maybe if it’s required by your religion. But I know here there are even Jewish organizations specifically rejecting circumcision based on medical and safety reasons.

My best friend had triplet boys in London. There was simply no mention of circumcision. Had she been here, she would had allowed the doctors to do it, because.... tradition! ...the doctors’ tradition.

I’ve heard the babies screaming at ceremonies. The women run out because they can’t bare it.

I don’t believe hospitals should do it without a parent present. But then most of them would halt the surgery before it was completed. It’s nothing short of torturous. Please just watch it happening.

So if you go with it, at least have the guts to stay to comfort your newborn son.

They put a numbing agent on the tip and then a local anesthesia for the whole penis. For my son, he can back from the procedure nurses and slept. No screaming.

I mean if you want to have to deal with nagging your son to remember to wash underneath his foreskin for the first thirteen years of his life because you couldn't be bothered to listen to the CDC and you wanted him to be "natural" then that's your right, but don't be surprised when he comes to you in tears asking you to pay for it when he's a teenager because some girl rejected him because of it and told all of her friends and now all the girls at school are calling him anteater.

Then I’ll be glad I helped him dodge a bullet because that hypothetical girl sounds awful

The thing is, it's not just one hypothetical girl. These are the current top search results for "uncircumcised" on TikTok, the social media app that's currently the most popular with teenage girls (my daughter is on it 24/7). Watch any one of these and it should be pretty clear what the prevailing attitude among American teenagers is.

https://www.tiktok.com/@kidlyza/video/6947816074859547909

https://www.tiktok.com/@wizqueifa_/video/6925291904263359749

https://www.tiktok.com/@tina.the.latina/video/7081025197909757227

https://www.tiktok.com/@mayaspam/video/7116962248643448110

https://www.tiktok.com/@stickyspiders/video/7077022221352340782

https://www.tiktok.com/@nessanessa525/video/7115227253633551662

https://www.tiktok.com/@mckenna_wl/video/7067308074830269702

https://www.tiktok.com/@beonikamoni/video/7063637167565737263

https://www.tiktok.com/@.rileyroo06/video/7046439691305897262

https://www.tiktok.com/@sister_samuel/video/7056120202198699311

https://www.tiktok.com/@alexisbridges/video/7084310412891704622

It took me about two minutes to find these. Imagine how it would feel to be an uncut teenage boy seeing girls from their school posting videos like that. That can't be good for their self-esteem at all.

This is the internet dear. Every idiot isn't limited to their own village anymore - they can be found by search by those with the same inclination. It is how we got Trump. Search "birds aren't real" and then come back and explain how your search strategy is a robust accurate census of prevailing opinion.

I do wonder if people were always stupid and the internet just reveals it - or is it making it worse.

The internet reinforces the stupid.

So the stupid get stupider.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not in Arlington, but I am still in Virginia and I'm a nurse practitioner that works with a local school district to do sports physicals (including a brief male genital exam) for all the middle and high schoolers each May/June, which means that I am uniquely qualifed to answer this, since I have quite literally seen hundreds of penises from that age group, and I have to say that not circumcising is still really rare at least where I am. Like there will be whole exam days where there isn't a single uncircumcised boy there. It's something you notice because it adds an extra step to the exam when a boy is uncut.

An extra step?

Pulling back the extra skin to check that it's not too tight and that the boy is keeping it clean (at that age, they usually aren't).

And just for reference, the part of Virginia I'm in is very rich and very white.

BS. This has never been part of my son’s athletic physicals.

You’re in the creepy part of VA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4dhE5VEKJg&t=177s

Definitely not clicking on random youtube link when we are discussing circumcision and creepy VA "medical professionals".

I just watched it, it's not anything creepy, it's just a pediatrician explaining what she does and why at physicals for adolescent boys and this topic is briefly mentioned.

It’s never, ever happened at my son’s sports physicals. Affluent area near DC. Creepy.

And if the PP *actually* had experience with boys that age she’d understand that the penis is the cleanest part of the body.

BS.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in arlington, but delivered in Dc at Sibley. According to my OB, since the procedure isn’t covered by insurance, people without means are choosing not to do it. So, I’d guess most boys at Williamsburg, if both here, will be circ. Most at Kenmore South of 50 won’t be. It’s mostly a socioeconomic thing.

Also delivered in DC, and the OB congratulated me for not doing it, saying she did not circ her sons either. So there’s more anecdata for you.

Excellent! It’s barbaric mutilation. In Europe no one does it, except maybe if it’s required by your religion. But I know here there are even Jewish organizations specifically rejecting circumcision based on medical and safety reasons.

My best friend had triplet boys in London. There was simply no mention of circumcision. Had she been here, she would had allowed the doctors to do it, because.... tradition! ...the doctors’ tradition.

I’ve heard the babies screaming at ceremonies. The women run out because they can’t bare it.

I don’t believe hospitals should do it without a parent present. But then most of them would halt the surgery before it was completed. It’s nothing short of torturous. Please just watch it happening.

So if you go with it, at least have the guts to stay to comfort your newborn son.

They put a numbing agent on the tip and then a local anesthesia for the whole penis. For my son, he can back from the procedure nurses and slept. No screaming.

I mean if you want to have to deal with nagging your son to remember to wash underneath his foreskin for the first thirteen years of his life because you couldn't be bothered to listen to the CDC and you wanted him to be "natural" then that's your right, but don't be surprised when he comes to you in tears asking you to pay for it when he's a teenager because some girl rejected him because of it and told all of her friends and now all the girls at school are calling him anteater.

Then I’ll be glad I helped him dodge a bullet because that hypothetical girl sounds awful

The thing is, it's not just one hypothetical girl. These are the current top search results for "uncircumcised" on TikTok, the social media app that's currently the most popular with teenage girls (my daughter is on it 24/7). Watch any one of these and it should be pretty clear what the prevailing attitude among American teenagers is.

https://www.tiktok.com/@kidlyza/video/6947816074859547909

https://www.tiktok.com/@wizqueifa_/video/6925291904263359749

https://www.tiktok.com/@tina.the.latina/video/7081025197909757227

https://www.tiktok.com/@mayaspam/video/7116962248643448110

https://www.tiktok.com/@stickyspiders/video/7077022221352340782

https://www.tiktok.com/@nessanessa525/video/7115227253633551662

https://www.tiktok.com/@mckenna_wl/video/7067308074830269702

https://www.tiktok.com/@beonikamoni/video/7063637167565737263

https://www.tiktok.com/@.rileyroo06/video/7046439691305897262

https://www.tiktok.com/@sister_samuel/video/7056120202198699311

https://www.tiktok.com/@alexisbridges/video/7084310412891704622

It took me about two minutes to find these. Imagine how it would feel to be an uncut teenage boy seeing girls from their school posting videos like that. That can't be good for their self-esteem at all.

This is the internet dear. Every idiot isn't limited to their own village anymore - they can be found by search by those with the same inclination. It is how we got Trump. Search "birds aren't real" and then come back and explain how your search strategy is a robust accurate census of prevailing opinion.

I do wonder if people were always stupid and the internet just reveals it - or is it making it worse.

The accurate comparison would be if you searched for "birds" and the top result was about how birds aren't real. This wasn't a search for "uncircumcised is gross", just uncircumcised.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not in Arlington, but I am still in Virginia and I'm a nurse practitioner that works with a local school district to do sports physicals (including a brief male genital exam) for all the middle and high schoolers each May/June, which means that I am uniquely qualifed to answer this, since I have quite literally seen hundreds of penises from that age group, and I have to say that not circumcising is still really rare at least where I am. Like there will be whole exam days where there isn't a single uncircumcised boy there. It's something you notice because it adds an extra step to the exam when a boy is uncut.

An extra step?

Pulling back the extra skin to check that it's not too tight and that the boy is keeping it clean (at that age, they usually aren't).

And just for reference, the part of Virginia I'm in is very rich and very white.

BS. This has never been part of my son’s athletic physicals.

You’re in the creepy part of VA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4dhE5VEKJg&t=177s

Definitely not clicking on random youtube link when we are discussing circumcision and creepy VA "medical professionals".

I just watched it, it's not anything creepy, it's just a pediatrician explaining what she does and why at physicals for adolescent boys and this topic is briefly mentioned.

It’s never, ever happened at my son’s sports physicals. Affluent area near DC. Creepy.

And if the PP *actually* had experience with boys that age she’d understand that the penis is the cleanest part of the body.

BS.

Have you ever considered that maybe different doctors do things?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in arlington, but delivered in Dc at Sibley. According to my OB, since the procedure isn’t covered by insurance, people without means are choosing not to do it. So, I’d guess most boys at Williamsburg, if both here, will be circ. Most at Kenmore South of 50 won’t be. It’s mostly a socioeconomic thing.

Also delivered in DC, and the OB congratulated me for not doing it, saying she did not circ her sons either. So there’s more anecdata for you.

Excellent! It’s barbaric mutilation. In Europe no one does it, except maybe if it’s required by your religion. But I know here there are even Jewish organizations specifically rejecting circumcision based on medical and safety reasons.

My best friend had triplet boys in London. There was simply no mention of circumcision. Had she been here, she would had allowed the doctors to do it, because.... tradition! ...the doctors’ tradition.

I’ve heard the babies screaming at ceremonies. The women run out because they can’t bare it.

I don’t believe hospitals should do it without a parent present. But then most of them would halt the surgery before it was completed. It’s nothing short of torturous. Please just watch it happening.

So if you go with it, at least have the guts to stay to comfort your newborn son.

They put a numbing agent on the tip and then a local anesthesia for the whole penis. For my son, he can back from the procedure nurses and slept. No screaming.

I mean if you want to have to deal with nagging your son to remember to wash underneath his foreskin for the first thirteen years of his life because you couldn't be bothered to listen to the CDC and you wanted him to be "natural" then that's your right, but don't be surprised when he comes to you in tears asking you to pay for it when he's a teenager because some girl rejected him because of it and told all of her friends and now all the girls at school are calling him anteater.

Your own insecurity is showing, PP. A lot.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not in Arlington, but I am still in Virginia and I'm a nurse practitioner that works with a local school district to do sports physicals (including a brief male genital exam) for all the middle and high schoolers each May/June, which means that I am uniquely qualifed to answer this, since I have quite literally seen hundreds of penises from that age group, and I have to say that not circumcising is still really rare at least where I am. Like there will be whole exam days where there isn't a single uncircumcised boy there. It's something you notice because it adds an extra step to the exam when a boy is uncut.

An extra step?

Pulling back the extra skin to check that it's not too tight and that the boy is keeping it clean (at that age, they usually aren't).

And just for reference, the part of Virginia I'm in is very rich and very white.

BS. This has never been part of my son’s athletic physicals.

You’re in the creepy part of VA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4dhE5VEKJg&t=177s

Definitely not clicking on random youtube link when we are discussing circumcision and creepy VA "medical professionals".

I just watched it, it's not anything creepy, it's just a pediatrician explaining what she does and why at physicals for adolescent boys and this topic is briefly mentioned.

It’s never, ever happened at my son’s sports physicals. Affluent area near DC. Creepy.

And if the PP *actually* had experience with boys that age she’d understand that the penis is the cleanest part of the body.

BS.

Have you ever considered that maybe different doctors do things?

School districts aren’t checking foreskins. PP is full of it.

[Anonymous]

Which school district is this supposedly happening in?

Very disturbing that NPs employed by the school district are possibly doing unnecessary physical exams of genitals.

Definitely NOT part of the exam:
https://www.vhsl.org/sports-medicine/physical-examination/