Is DS possibly the only '22 senior who is disinterested in STEM?

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Pp above, I have a candidate I’m working with right now who has a degree in comparative literature from a very solid state school, and she is a top candidate for a CEO role. This is not unusual.

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Anonymous wrote:To read DCUM you get the impression that 50% of males plan to study CS, 48% some type of engineering and 2% undecided between the two. Maaybe some of them will do a double major in business and engineering/CS. OK, there's a smattering of pre-meds probably.

Does anyone else here have a high achieving DS off to a top RI university who plans to major in philosophy or history? No?

Let him explore and come to decision by himself. Pick a school where you don’t have to declare major until second semester of sophomore year and double majoring is supported.

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Uninterested. Not disinterested, uninterested.

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Mine has not interest in STEM.
Planning to study business and forestry.

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Anonymous wrote:I can understand why kids who don't have that financial cushion feel pressured to choose a major that leads to more lucrative career paths right out of college. DH and I were both humanities/social science majors and we never pushed STEM on our children. DD is a sophomore in college and is about to declare biology but is also looking into economics as well although she'd rather be studying biology + classics, languages, and history. She's just worried because she doesn't have plans to go to law school. How do we support her and reassure her that she will be fine?

For non-STEM & non “vocational” majors, the prestige of the school matters more.

Yeah, she was always considering a STEM and/or quantitative social science since her main options were the in-state school or a LAC with merit. She ended up at the LAC.

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Anonymous wrote:Our family isn’t affluent enough for our child to major in history. Sorry.

I never understand when people post this type comment. What if your child is not a STEM person and you know they are not going to be computer scientists, engineers, etc. They can still have a meaningful and employable career in a non stem career.

We all wish that were true, but it’s not.

I’ve got news for you, the leadership and people running the companies that employ your stem majors are more than likely non stem. Marketing, sales, HE, PR, communications, finance, accounting, legal, product management etc., most likely not stem majors. Heck the CEO probably isn’t either.

And with solid connections and top 10 degrees in non-Stem.

I work at a Fortune 500 and the our top people received degrees from all over the place and in every major. Work ethic, ability to communicate effectively and think critically are the common denominator among the top 100 in the company.

I have an undergrad and graduate degree in poli-sci and my total comp package is anywhere from $700k-$1 million plus. Yes, I started at $18k but I steadily worked my way up the ladder. I’m not unique in my world.

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Anonymous wrote:Our family isn’t affluent enough for our child to major in history. Sorry.

I never understand when people post this type comment. What if your child is not a STEM person and you know they are not going to be computer scientists, engineers, etc. They can still have a meaningful and employable career in a non stem career.

We all wish that were true, but it’s not.

I’ve got news for you, the leadership and people running the companies that employ your stem majors are more than likely non stem. Marketing, sales, HE, PR, communications, finance, accounting, legal, product management etc., most likely not stem majors. Heck the CEO probably isn’t either.

And with solid connections and top 10 degrees in non-Stem.

I work at a Fortune 500 and the our top people received degrees from all over the place and in every major. Work ethic, ability to communicate effectively and think critically are the common denominator among the top 100 in the company.

I have an undergrad and graduate degree in poli-sci and my total comp package is anywhere from $700k-$1 million plus. Yes, I started at $18k but I steadily worked my way up the ladder. I’m not unique in my world.

Good of boys club of idiots

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Anonymous wrote:Our family isn’t affluent enough for our child to major in history. Sorry.

I never understand when people post this type comment. What if your child is not a STEM person and you know they are not going to be computer scientists, engineers, etc. They can still have a meaningful and employable career in a non stem career.

We all wish that were true, but it’s not.

I’ve got news for you, the leadership and people running the companies that employ your stem majors are more than likely non stem. Marketing, sales, HE, PR, communications, finance, accounting, legal, product management etc., most likely not stem majors. Heck the CEO probably isn’t either.

And with solid connections and top 10 degrees in non-Stem.

I work at a Fortune 500 and the our top people received degrees from all over the place and in every major. Work ethic, ability to communicate effectively and think critically are the common denominator among the top 100 in the company.

I have an undergrad and graduate degree in poli-sci and my total comp package is anywhere from $700k-$1 million plus. Yes, I started at $18k but I steadily worked my way up the ladder. I’m not unique in my world.

What year were you born? And the top people you reference? I’m not unlike you and born in the 60s. I wonder if what you say would be applicable though for someone who is 17 right now. The “26 history major from Kansas State rising to the executive level of Target or Amazon or Unilever or Boeing

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Anonymous wrote:Our family isn’t affluent enough for our child to major in history. Sorry.

I never understand when people post this type comment. What if your child is not a STEM person and you know they are not going to be computer scientists, engineers, etc. They can still have a meaningful and employable career in a non stem career.

We all wish that were true, but it’s not.

I’ve got news for you, the leadership and people running the companies that employ your stem majors are more than likely non stem. Marketing, sales, HE, PR, communications, finance, accounting, legal, product management etc., most likely not stem majors. Heck the CEO probably isn’t either.

Yes business major from top schools are good.

Most of those people are not from business schools either!! You all are really clueless.

You think those positions prefer a random major? Stop kidding yourself.
Yes school prestige matters much more for these than STEM if that's what you mean.

Nope not true. No one gives a rats arse where you went to school once you start working in the corporate world. It’s about your actual job performance not your college or major. Yes. You could argue a top school opens more doors for the first job out of college but after that, nope.

I am in executive search, I know of what I speak.

Yes that's the arguement since we are in a college forum.

Later in the career is a different story, but degrees from top schhools would still be bonus.

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Anonymous wrote:Our family isn’t affluent enough for our child to major in history. Sorry.

I never understand when people post this type comment. What if your child is not a STEM person and you know they are not going to be computer scientists, engineers, etc. They can still have a meaningful and employable career in a non stem career.

We all wish that were true, but it’s not.

I’ve got news for you, the leadership and people running the companies that employ your stem majors are more than likely non stem. Marketing, sales, HE, PR, communications, finance, accounting, legal, product management etc., most likely not stem majors. Heck the CEO probably isn’t either.

And with solid connections and top 10 degrees in non-Stem.

I work at a Fortune 500 and the our top people received degrees from all over the place and in every major. Work ethic, ability to communicate effectively and think critically are the common denominator among the top 100 in the company.

I have an undergrad and graduate degree in poli-sci and my total comp package is anywhere from $700k-$1 million plus. Yes, I started at $18k but I steadily worked my way up the ladder. I’m not unique in my world.

What year were you born? And the top people you reference? I’m not unlike you and born in the 60s. I wonder if what you say would be applicable though for someone who is 17 right now. The “26 history major from Kansas State rising to the executive level of Target or Amazon or Unilever or Boeing [/quote

Pp here. ‘72. You could be right, although the issue I most run into is that people don’t want to put in the time.. I’m not going to pretend there is a lot of work - life balance.]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't business considered STEM? Doesn't it involve math?

Oh lord. I’ve worked in the “business” world for thirty years. No you don’t need or even want a stem degree. Ever hear of calculators and Excel? We gave those tools you know. And yes I know they were developed by stem people lol

And if the CS folks do their job right, we can pull the data in usable form and do everything in Excel. See, the CS folks actually work for me—and I was a music major. Hmmmm.

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Anonymous wrote:DS22 applied as English major, backed up by ECs that match that. I think it helped him get admitted to a top 20 college. Who knows what he’ll do when he starts there. He’s also good at math and CS. Could easily see him majoring in whatever strikes his fancy at college.

Curious what EC support his interest in English - school newspaper? school lit journal? Thanks.

Self publishes short stories on his blog! Very introverted kid.