Please take the Electric Vehicle pledge for Montgomery County

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Anonymous wrote:Recent study suggests that EV owners don't buy EVs to save on gas, but rather because they have expendable income to spend on their belief in saving the environment.

But they save on gas just the same. I'd buy an EV in a heartbeat if my building had charging stations and if I could make it far enough to visit family on a charge. Back in 2007/2008 I bought a Honda Civic because it got 45 mpg on the highway and saved me a ton of money.

The point is that EVs are by and large more expensive than your average gas vehicle, and the price point is too high for most. Plus, the battery of an EV is very expensive to replace and dies after like 7-10 years, so used EVs aren't necessarily the greatest option. People who have fewer spare dollars aren't going to spend it to feel good about their environmental commitment. EVs are still a luxury good.

Plus, as you've noted, they don't quite fit in the market widely yet because of the low range per charge (particularly for the cheaper ones) and a lack of charging infrastructure.

The average new car costs $40,000; there are plenty of EVs for that price or less, and most of them also get a $7,500 federal tax credit. So if you can afford a new car, you can afford an electric one. Yes, some of them are very expensive, but that’s the case with gas cars, too. Simply being electric doesn’t make a car a luxury good anymore.

EVs are still horribly expensive. People in the DMV and the 1-10% bubble need to realize that your median HHI is only $68,000 per year, yet now you you want people to fork over $40k+ for a car, which is nearly 60% of their entire income on a car? You are also quoting 'averages' for car prices, but what is the actual median sales price? The average numbers get skewed too much by all of the idiots buying Mercedes, bmws, Porsches, volvos, etc.

Here are the top most popular cars: https://www.edmunds.com/most-popular-cars/

The base price for F150s and Silverados is only around $30k. Cars like corollas and civics come in below $25k. Mazda is one of the most reliable brands. You can buy many models below $25k and even closer to $20k. EVs are just too expensive for the median HHI. It's the difference between a $325/mo car payment for a Corolla vs. a $700+ per mo. payment for.many EVs. Just too expensive. Many people will have to wait until they come down in price or used inventory builds up of EVs. 4-6 year old used cars is generally the sweet spot for balancing age with pricing in depreciation. Maybe EVs will become more affordable in 2030.

I am with you. Our Camry will be paid off in 5 months. We will enjoy a payment free period of at least five years. Why should we spend $40K for a EV? It is wasteful. The biggest environment unfriendly behaviors in the US is consistently wanting new things and a lots of them.

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Anonymous wrote:Recent study suggests that EV owners don't buy EVs to save on gas, but rather because they have expendable income to spend on their belief in saving the environment.

But they save on gas just the same. I'd buy an EV in a heartbeat if my building had charging stations and if I could make it far enough to visit family on a charge. Back in 2007/2008 I bought a Honda Civic because it got 45 mpg on the highway and saved me a ton of money.

The point is that EVs are by and large more expensive than your average gas vehicle, and the price point is too high for most. Plus, the battery of an EV is very expensive to replace and dies after like 7-10 years, so used EVs aren't necessarily the greatest option. People who have fewer spare dollars aren't going to spend it to feel good about their environmental commitment. EVs are still a luxury good.

Plus, as you've noted, they don't quite fit in the market widely yet because of the low range per charge (particularly for the cheaper ones) and a lack of charging infrastructure.

The average new car costs $40,000; there are plenty of EVs for that price or less, and most of them also get a $7,500 federal tax credit. So if you can afford a new car, you can afford an electric one. Yes, some of them are very expensive, but that’s the case with gas cars, too. Simply being electric doesn’t make a car a luxury good anymore.

EVs are still horribly expensive. People in the DMV and the 1-10% bubble need to realize that your median HHI is only $68,000 per year, yet now you you want people to fork over $40k+ for a car, which is nearly 60% of their entire income on a car? You are also quoting 'averages' for car prices, but what is the actual median sales price? The average numbers get skewed too much by all of the idiots buying Mercedes, bmws, Porsches, volvos, etc.

Here are the top most popular cars: https://www.edmunds.com/most-popular-cars/

The base price for F150s and Silverados is only around $30k. Cars like corollas and civics come in below $25k. Mazda is one of the most reliable brands. You can buy many models below $25k and even closer to $20k. EVs are just too expensive for the median HHI. It's the difference between a $325/mo car payment for a Corolla vs. a $700+ per mo. payment for.many EVs. Just too expensive. Many people will have to wait until they come down in price or used inventory builds up of EVs. 4-6 year old used cars is generally the sweet spot for balancing age with pricing in depreciation. Maybe EVs will become more affordable in 2030.

I am with you. Our Camry will be paid off in 5 months. We will enjoy a payment free period of at least five years. Why should we spend $40K for a EV? It is wasteful. The biggest environment unfriendly behaviors in the US is consistently wanting new things and a lots of them.

I spend 20 dollars a month extra on our electric bill, you spend 200/month on gas.

I will drive my now-four-year-old electric car for another fifteen years without doing much more than replacing the tires, you will be spending more than that.

I will be idling in traffic emissions-free, you pollute every time you sit in a school pickup line. Enjoy.

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I enjoy internal combustion engines, I concede their time is limited but I plan on using them the rest of my life. I don’t care how fast a plaid is, nothing beats a high revving gas engine with a clutch. I even opening enjoy my 2 & 4 stroke yard tools despite some over reach regulation against them. My not so silent protest

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Anonymous wrote:Recent study suggests that EV owners don't buy EVs to save on gas, but rather because they have expendable income to spend on their belief in saving the environment.

But they save on gas just the same. I'd buy an EV in a heartbeat if my building had charging stations and if I could make it far enough to visit family on a charge. Back in 2007/2008 I bought a Honda Civic because it got 45 mpg on the highway and saved me a ton of money.

The point is that EVs are by and large more expensive than your average gas vehicle, and the price point is too high for most. Plus, the battery of an EV is very expensive to replace and dies after like 7-10 years, so used EVs aren't necessarily the greatest option. People who have fewer spare dollars aren't going to spend it to feel good about their environmental commitment. EVs are still a luxury good.

Plus, as you've noted, they don't quite fit in the market widely yet because of the low range per charge (particularly for the cheaper ones) and a lack of charging infrastructure.

The average new car costs $40,000; there are plenty of EVs for that price or less, and most of them also get a $7,500 federal tax credit. So if you can afford a new car, you can afford an electric one. Yes, some of them are very expensive, but that’s the case with gas cars, too. Simply being electric doesn’t make a car a luxury good anymore.

EVs are still horribly expensive. People in the DMV and the 1-10% bubble need to realize that your median HHI is only $68,000 per year, yet now you you want people to fork over $40k+ for a car, which is nearly 60% of their entire income on a car? You are also quoting 'averages' for car prices, but what is the actual median sales price? The average numbers get skewed too much by all of the idiots buying Mercedes, bmws, Porsches, volvos, etc.

Here are the top most popular cars: https://www.edmunds.com/most-popular-cars/

The base price for F150s and Silverados is only around $30k. Cars like corollas and civics come in below $25k. Mazda is one of the most reliable brands. You can buy many models below $25k and even closer to $20k. EVs are just too expensive for the median HHI. It's the difference between a $325/mo car payment for a Corolla vs. a $700+ per mo. payment for.many EVs. Just too expensive. Many people will have to wait until they come down in price or used inventory builds up of EVs. 4-6 year old used cars is generally the sweet spot for balancing age with pricing in depreciation. Maybe EVs will become more affordable in 2030.

I am with you. Our Camry will be paid off in 5 months. We will enjoy a payment free period of at least five years. Why should we spend $40K for a EV? It is wasteful. The biggest environment unfriendly behaviors in the US is consistently wanting new things and a lots of them.

I spend 20 dollars a month extra on our electric bill, you spend 200/month on gas.

I will drive my now-four-year-old electric car for another fifteen years without doing much more than replacing the tires, you will be spending more than that.

I will be idling in traffic emissions-free, you pollute every time you sit in a school pickup line. Enjoy.

How much did that new EV cost you? It is far cheaper keeping an older car that doesn't need a lot of maintenance vs. a new car.

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I for one think gas should be priced to the heavens. It keeps the tree huggers happy forcing suppressed consumption and it puts the cars back in the hands of Leisure class to enjoy them for the last couple of decades they are around. No one who buys a great car or truck cars about MPG, emissions or saving on practical economy. People who think they are going to get maintenance free 15 years with electric cars are naive

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Recent study suggests that EV owners don't buy EVs to save on gas, but rather because they have expendable income to spend on their belief in saving the environment.

But they save on gas just the same. I'd buy an EV in a heartbeat if my building had charging stations and if I could make it far enough to visit family on a charge. Back in 2007/2008 I bought a Honda Civic because it got 45 mpg on the highway and saved me a ton of money.

The point is that EVs are by and large more expensive than your average gas vehicle, and the price point is too high for most. Plus, the battery of an EV is very expensive to replace and dies after like 7-10 years, so used EVs aren't necessarily the greatest option. People who have fewer spare dollars aren't going to spend it to feel good about their environmental commitment. EVs are still a luxury good.

Plus, as you've noted, they don't quite fit in the market widely yet because of the low range per charge (particularly for the cheaper ones) and a lack of charging infrastructure.

The average new car costs $40,000; there are plenty of EVs for that price or less, and most of them also get a $7,500 federal tax credit. So if you can afford a new car, you can afford an electric one. Yes, some of them are very expensive, but that’s the case with gas cars, too. Simply being electric doesn’t make a car a luxury good anymore.

EVs are still horribly expensive. People in the DMV and the 1-10% bubble need to realize that your median HHI is only $68,000 per year, yet now you you want people to fork over $40k+ for a car, which is nearly 60% of their entire income on a car? You are also quoting 'averages' for car prices, but what is the actual median sales price? The average numbers get skewed too much by all of the idiots buying Mercedes, bmws, Porsches, volvos, etc.

Here are the top most popular cars: https://www.edmunds.com/most-popular-cars/

The base price for F150s and Silverados is only around $30k. Cars like corollas and civics come in below $25k. Mazda is one of the most reliable brands. You can buy many models below $25k and even closer to $20k. EVs are just too expensive for the median HHI. It's the difference between a $325/mo car payment for a Corolla vs. a $700+ per mo. payment for.many EVs. Just too expensive. Many people will have to wait until they come down in price or used inventory builds up of EVs. 4-6 year old used cars is generally the sweet spot for balancing age with pricing in depreciation. Maybe EVs will become more affordable in 2030.

I am with you. Our Camry will be paid off in 5 months. We will enjoy a payment free period of at least five years. Why should we spend $40K for a EV? It is wasteful. The biggest environment unfriendly behaviors in the US is consistently wanting new things and a lots of them.

I spend 20 dollars a month extra on our electric bill, you spend 200/month on gas.

I will drive my now-four-year-old electric car for another fifteen years without doing much more than replacing the tires, you will be spending more than that.

I will be idling in traffic emissions-free, you pollute every time you sit in a school pickup line. Enjoy.

Good luck with that, lol. 15 years? Get back to us in 5 and let us know how things are going.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Recent study suggests that EV owners don't buy EVs to save on gas, but rather because they have expendable income to spend on their belief in saving the environment.

But they save on gas just the same. I'd buy an EV in a heartbeat if my building had charging stations and if I could make it far enough to visit family on a charge. Back in 2007/2008 I bought a Honda Civic because it got 45 mpg on the highway and saved me a ton of money.

The point is that EVs are by and large more expensive than your average gas vehicle, and the price point is too high for most. Plus, the battery of an EV is very expensive to replace and dies after like 7-10 years, so used EVs aren't necessarily the greatest option. People who have fewer spare dollars aren't going to spend it to feel good about their environmental commitment. EVs are still a luxury good.

Plus, as you've noted, they don't quite fit in the market widely yet because of the low range per charge (particularly for the cheaper ones) and a lack of charging infrastructure.

The average new car costs $40,000; there are plenty of EVs for that price or less, and most of them also get a $7,500 federal tax credit. So if you can afford a new car, you can afford an electric one. Yes, some of them are very expensive, but that’s the case with gas cars, too. Simply being electric doesn’t make a car a luxury good anymore.

EVs are still horribly expensive. People in the DMV and the 1-10% bubble need to realize that your median HHI is only $68,000 per year, yet now you you want people to fork over $40k+ for a car, which is nearly 60% of their entire income on a car? You are also quoting 'averages' for car prices, but what is the actual median sales price? The average numbers get skewed too much by all of the idiots buying Mercedes, bmws, Porsches, volvos, etc.

Here are the top most popular cars: https://www.edmunds.com/most-popular-cars/

The base price for F150s and Silverados is only around $30k. Cars like corollas and civics come in below $25k. Mazda is one of the most reliable brands. You can buy many models below $25k and even closer to $20k. EVs are just too expensive for the median HHI. It's the difference between a $325/mo car payment for a Corolla vs. a $700+ per mo. payment for.many EVs. Just too expensive. Many people will have to wait until they come down in price or used inventory builds up of EVs. 4-6 year old used cars is generally the sweet spot for balancing age with pricing in depreciation. Maybe EVs will become more affordable in 2030.

I am with you. Our Camry will be paid off in 5 months. We will enjoy a payment free period of at least five years. Why should we spend $40K for a EV? It is wasteful. The biggest environment unfriendly behaviors in the US is consistently wanting new things and a lots of them.

THIS +1 million

My 10 year old manual transmission Toyota Corolla is still working fine and gets damn good gas mileage.

I’m not causing global warming. I use an ancient iPhone and thrift for the kids clothes.

It’s the people who need the latest and greatest car/cell phone/random kitchen appliance/trendy furniture who are destroying the planet. One air fryer at a time.

[Anonymous]

Bwhahaha. No. Off to pick up my new gas guzzling SUV. I may just idle it in the parking lot for fun.