HS swim teams
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Anonymous
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To my shame, I have no idea about high school swim teams and why one needs to enroll into them, as we are on year-round swim team doing USA swimming official meets.
Lets say, a swimmer has time cuts for his desired college team at 16-18 already from PVS championships/sectionals. Does he need to compete at METROS or apply for "scholar athlete" designation, or colleges only look at your time cuts? |
Anonymous
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You should swim for your school team because it is your school team. You know, pride, loyalty, friends, and the fun 'high school team' experience.
What does your son want to do? He's a bit old for you to make this choice even though you say "we" are on the team. |
Anonymous
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He is in the middle school, so it's more of a practical, going forward question. Our private school swim team is pretty slow comparing to his best times. He is much younger, but already faster than their fastest 16 y.o. (by a huge margin, would lap on hundreds). He was asking if he had to attend the workouts with his school team if he was to join, and how his workouts would look like with such speed discrepancy. Kids in year-round swimming are worked to the limit, and he can't afford slow workouts before school. He badly needs sleep.
What does it give in practical terms to participate in meets for your HS, but not doing any workouts with them? He can socialize with his classmates anyway, outside pool. |
Anonymous
| NP. I think it is really fun to be on a HS sports team (I was on one myself) but it seems we have differing world views on that point. |
Anonymous
Gotcha. Our high school team and others we visited just asked that he please attend at least one team practice a week (it is a very short season), but to please also keep up his regular training schedule. So in the end it amounted to one extra practice that was "fun" and a handful of spirited school meets. |
Anonymous
But my guess is they might work with on the workout point if he’s attending other practices. My guess is that colleges don’t care - they care about the times. |
Anonymous
| Every team is different and you need to speak to the school. My understanding is the outside team took priority with training but you still did some with the school. |
Anonymous
| My DS swims competitively year round. Every one of his friends from his club team also swims for their HS team. They all go to their club practice and show up at their HS practice once a week - more for the social aspect and not the actual practice. They will miss a HS meet for a championship meet (NCAP Invite for example has always conflicted with a HS dual meet and the club swimmers skip the HS meet in favor of NCAP Invite.) One of my son's HS teammates was the VA State Champ in her event. It was a huge deal for her to compete in HS order to qualify for the state meet and win the state championship. Also, HS teams keep records. If your son is really good, he might be able to break a HS record. And HS swimming is fun! |
Anonymous
But your middle school ages son doesn’t have this yet so why are you asking? |
Anonymous
| Katie Ledecky swam for her high school team when she was at Stone Ridge. She’s faster than most women swimmers in the world. Her team members spoke highly of her and how supportive she was of her teammates. She probably missed meets for national competitions but she stayed on her HS team until graduation. |
Anonymous
There is visability you will not receive at nationals which you will have as a state meet champion for college scholarships. |
Anonymous
Good God no. No one cares about state champs. We saw at least 2 PVS swimmers in A finals at nationals this week. Phoebe Bacon and Tori Huske will get any D1 college scholarship they want even if they never attend another HS meet. |
Anonymous
+1 Colleges care about time. They do not care about state championships. It is not cross country running where course is different. Swimmers with A heat times at Metros are going to be more highly recruited that many state champions. |
Anonymous
| You are talking about the top schools and participating in finals at nationals (not just qualifying for prelims). Do what you want, but you give too much credit to money losing college swimming recruitment. |
Anonymous
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But aren’t swimmers participating in Metros representing their HS teams not year round clubs? Do you have to be on HS team to compete at Metros?
I was just curious as our HS swim team trainer is already asking my son if he would be interested to join and we don’t want to commit verbally until we know what it entails |