If Affirmative Action goes, legacy will fall.

[Anonymous]

https://www.propublica.org/article/affirmative-action-how-the-fight-against-at-harvard-could-threaten-rich-whites

Many student groups across the ivy league have started groups asking for legacy admissions to be banned.

Great article here - i found this interesting.

Indeed, the best protection for affirmative action may be the threat that its elimination would pose to legacy preference. “Were this court to have the courage to forbid the use of racial discrimination in admissions, legacy preferences (and similar practices) might quickly become less popular — a possibility not lost, I am certain, on the elites” supporting affirmative action, Justice Clarence Thomas — not a fan of either race-based or legacy preferences — observed in 2003.

[Anonymous]

Well I think there's an argument to be made that legacy admissions most strongly benefit rich white people so it's only fair that if affirmative action goes away, so does legacy preference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well I think there's an argument to be made that legacy admissions most strongly benefit rich white people so it's only fair that if affirmative action goes away, so does legacy preference.

But only one is constitutionally suspect as a disparate impact claim against legacy admissions would almost certainly fail. And it will likely take a lot more than some student protests for schools to completely move away from legacy preferences because of the benefits to the school.

[Anonymous]

I would like to see accidents of birth removed from admissions consideration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.propublica.org/article/affirmative-action-how-the-fight-against-at-harvard-could-threaten-rich-whites

Many student groups across the ivy league have started groups asking for legacy admissions to be banned.

Great article here - i found this interesting.

Indeed, the best protection for affirmative action may be the threat that its elimination would pose to legacy preference. “Were this court to have the courage to forbid the use of racial discrimination in admissions, legacy preferences (and similar practices) might quickly become less popular — a possibility not lost, I am certain, on the elites” supporting affirmative action, Justice Clarence Thomas — not a fan of either race-based or legacy preferences — observed in 2003.

I'm against AA as well as legacy and athletic preferences. Legacy preference is about the only way my kid would get into my highly competitive alma mater, but she really shouldn't be taking the place of a more highly qualified non-legacy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would like to see accidents of birth removed from admissions consideration.

Like natural intelligence?

[Anonymous]

Are Asians the only group that actually gets in because of merit now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are Asians the only group that actually gets in because of merit now?

And non-legacy whites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.propublica.org/article/affirmative-action-how-the-fight-against-at-harvard-could-threaten-rich-whites

Many student groups across the ivy league have started groups asking for legacy admissions to be banned.

Great article here - i found this interesting.

Indeed, the best protection for affirmative action may be the threat that its elimination would pose to legacy preference. “Were this court to have the courage to forbid the use of racial discrimination in admissions, legacy preferences (and similar practices) might quickly become less popular — a possibility not lost, I am certain, on the elites” supporting affirmative action, Justice Clarence Thomas — not a fan of either race-based or legacy preferences — observed in 2003.

I'm against AA as well as legacy and athletic preferences. Legacy preference is about the only way my kid would get into my highly competitive alma mater, but she really shouldn't be taking the place of a more highly qualified non-legacy.

is you kid dumber than you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are Asians the only group that actually gets in because of merit now?

And non-legacy whites.

non-legacy gentile whites. fixed it for you.

[Anonymous]

Let the private universities/colleges continue to practice legacy preferences if they choose. But revoke non-profit designation for them and they should pay taxes like any for-profit corporation. Also the federal and state governments should stop funding research projects at those universities/colleges. I wounder whether even the mighty Harvard will choose to practice legacy preferences under those circumstances. If it does, many faculty members will choose to move to other universities to continue their research activities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.propublica.org/article/affirmative-action-how-the-fight-against-at-harvard-could-threaten-rich-whites

Many student groups across the ivy league have started groups asking for legacy admissions to be banned.

Great article here - i found this interesting.

Indeed, the best protection for affirmative action may be the threat that its elimination would pose to legacy preference. “Were this court to have the courage to forbid the use of racial discrimination in admissions, legacy preferences (and similar practices) might quickly become less popular — a possibility not lost, I am certain, on the elites” supporting affirmative action, Justice Clarence Thomas — not a fan of either race-based or legacy preferences — observed in 2003.

I'm against AA as well as legacy and athletic preferences. Legacy preference is about the only way my kid would get into my highly competitive alma mater, but she really shouldn't be taking the place of a more highly qualified non-legacy.

is you kid dumber than you?

Nope. Less motivated though. Plus it's more competitive now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would like to see accidents of birth removed from admissions consideration.

Like natural intelligence?

Or being born to parents who value education and know how to provide reading and math experiences from an early age?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would like to see accidents of birth removed from admissions consideration.

Good luck with that.

[Anonymous]

There’s absolutely zero reason for wealthy white parents of any political persuasion to oppose affirmative action as long as their kids are still able to gain admission to elite institutions. The social stigma attached to bring an opponent of affirmative action is severe. But taking away legacy preference would be a first step.