WISC not great, scores all over the place - include in appeal?

[Anonymous]

I am appealing whether I include the WISC report or not because I am confident DC can handle the curriculum and needs the challenge.
The question is should I include the WISC report or not? The psychologist who did the assessment did not seem optimistic at all.

FSIQ 125
VCI 124
VSI 147
FRI 112
WMI 120
PSI 92

No NNAT
Cogat 127
GBRS 13
DRA 50 (grade 4)
Reading SOL 528
Math SOL 552

[Anonymous]

What did the psychologist say about the large discrepancy between PSI and VSI? What other tests did they perform to tease that out?

[Anonymous]

No other tests, to my knowledge. She thought he might be tired toward the end of the test.

[Anonymous]

Would your child be switching schools to go into AAP in 5th grade?

[Anonymous]

I would not include the WISC. It won't do anything to help your case. Has your child won any significant awards, like in math olympiad, science olympiad, spelling bee, etc.? Do you have some good work samples? Were his iready scores high?

I would appeal with any awards, letters of recommendation, and work samples. If his iready scores were above grade level, I'd also include those.

Then, write a parent letter and focus specifically on how your child's needs are not being met in his gen ed classroom, and how they would be better met in an AAP classroom. Don't talk about him being bored or being ready for more challenge. Instead, perhaps talk about subjects in which he'd love to delve deeper, but can't in gen ed. Or talk about how your child needs the hands-on and more interactive teaching style in AAP. Or talk about how your child needs access to the academic extracurriculars available at the center but not at your base school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No other tests, to my knowledge. She thought he might be tired toward the end of the test.

I would look for another evaluator and get more testing done to figure out what is going on. That gap will cause problems as your child gets into MS and HS. The evaluator should have had ideas beyond , "she seemed tired at the end".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No other tests, to my knowledge. She thought he might be tired toward the end of the test.

I would look for another evaluator and get more testing done to figure out what is going on. That gap will cause problems as your child gets into MS and HS. The evaluator should have had ideas beyond , "she seemed tired at the end".

Get a full educational-psychological evaluation and not just the WISC. In the mean time, look up 2E (twice exceptional).

[Anonymous]

If your child is otherwise doing well in school, I wouldn't leap to 2E issues. An exceptionally high VSI could just mean that your child is quite gifted in visual spatial tasks, but not in other tasks. The lower PSI is still considered average. The Digit Span subscore is one of the bigger red flags for ADHD, but your son's must have been okay since the WMI was decent. Unless there have been other signs of ADHD or 2E issues, I wouldn't sink the money into a full evaluation.

My kid had a comparable gap between his highest index score and the PSI (which was average). It was not considered a red flag for anything. Often, kids who tend to be a bit more meticulous or perfectionistic will get lower PSI scores, since these kids are prioritizing accuracy over speed.

[Anonymous]

Having a low PSI is common seen with gifted kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Having a low PSI is common seen with gifted kid.

Sorry to hijack...but I hadn't heard this. Can you tell me
more? My DC had FSIQ of 133 but PSI was 90. We would often joke that he is s-l-o-w to do everything!!! (But it wasn't in a mean way...but then after we got the WISC results I felt guilty bc I was like "oh!!! So maybe this is a thing--and not just that he dawdles like a turtle?)

Why is PSI common in gifted kids?

[Anonymous]

OP here. What is iReady? I don’t remember receiving anything pertaining to this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. What is iReady? I don’t remember receiving anything pertaining to this.

It's the universal screener test that the kids took in the fall and again in the winter. Ask your school for a score report.

[Anonymous]

Also, we are not looking to change schools. His school has local level 4. He is already receiving level 3 services including math in the target immersion language. The level 3 language arts program is intermittent.

[Anonymous]

I would submit based on high VSI and also include that low Psi is a concern that you are looking into. Also, what is GAI?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having a low PSI is common seen with gifted kid.

Sorry to hijack...but I hadn't heard this. Can you tell me
more? My DC had FSIQ of 133 but PSI was 90. We would often joke that he is s-l-o-w to do everything!!! (But it wasn't in a mean way...but then after we got the WISC results I felt guilty bc I was like "oh!!! So maybe this is a thing--and not just that he dawdles like a turtle?)

Why is PSI common in gifted kids?

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