What is the wildest conspiracy theory you actually believe?

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Sometimes I think the Ancient Aliens folks might be onto something.

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Anonymous wrote:Not an anti vaxxer, but i'm also of the position that it is near impossible that vaccines don't have *some* permanent ill effects for *some* people. Whether it is one in a million that it causes autism, or other auto immune diseases, etc.... The claim that "we know vaccines are totally safe!" seems BS, because you can't claim the absence of things that have been studied. As in, if no one has ever studied whether, say, people who themselves had the MMR vaccine as kids are more likely to give birth to a kid with ASD or thyroid disease or whatever.... then it can't be ruled out.

DP. I think the vaccine-autism debate is a red herring. I suspect the real reason for the huge rise in autism and other developmental disorders is the widespread use of fertility treatments, often in situations that are high risk to start with (AMA, family history, etc). I don't think there's a conspiracy theory surrounding the issue, but I think there's a big push to avoid saying it.

I agree and thought I was the only person who took note of this. Every autistic child I know had a mom who did some kind of fertility treatment.

Don't you think they're studying this already? My anecdotal evidence actually is the opposite of yours.

I don't know a single parent of a child with autism who had fertility treatments. I have two friends whose daughters have autism, both had the girls as newlyweds in their 20s. My friend with an autistic son actually had an oops pregnancy with a FWB - again, no treatments. My three or four friends who did fertility treatments all have neurotypical children.

Has anyone explored the possibility that autism is simply diagnosed more often than it was 30+ years ago? Not because its prevalence has actually risen but because we better understand how to diagnose it?

Sure, but there is also a reason that we have the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986. And it's not because zero harm is ever done by vaccines. It's because TOO MANY vaccine injuries were proven and the lobbyists successfully convinced congress to protect them from lawsuits so that the vaccine manufacturers didn't have to worry too much about being accountable for it.

I don't think anyone has ever said vaccines are 100% safe and there is zero risk of injury. What has been said is that the vaccine-autism link was debunked because no one could actually replicate Andrew Wakefield's results, and because he did not disclose his study was specifically funded by individuals seeking to go against vaccine manufacturers.

Every medication has potential side effects. The likes of Tylenol, which most of us take and administer to sick babies, have been known to cause adverse reactions or even death. Vaccine brochures openly state there is a risk of an adverse reaction and include death in that listing - I've been given a pamphlet that lists the risks every single time.

People really should study the biochemistry of the "other ingredients" in vaccines before they determine that they only cause adverse side effects "sometimes". Aluminum, thimerisol, polysorbate 80, monosodium glutamate, squalene, formaldehyde, sorbitol, etc. injected directly into your body are not ok and anyone that can't see that is crazy.

So my conspiracy theory is that they are dangerous and causing disease and that no one will ever allow that evidence to come out so of course no one believes they are harmful...and no one will ever be able to "prove" it. In some people, they cause autism, learning disabilities, allergies, asthma, autoimmune disease, ADHD, depression, anxiety, behavior problems, cancer, etc. All of the things we have seen an immense rise in in the past 20 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Not an anti vaxxer, but i'm also of the position that it is near impossible that vaccines don't have *some* permanent ill effects for *some* people. Whether it is one in a million that it causes autism, or other auto immune diseases, etc.... The claim that "we know vaccines are totally safe!" seems BS, because you can't claim the absence of things that have been studied. As in, if no one has ever studied whether, say, people who themselves had the MMR vaccine as kids are more likely to give birth to a kid with ASD or thyroid disease or whatever.... then it can't be ruled out.

DP. I think the vaccine-autism debate is a red herring. I suspect the real reason for the huge rise in autism and other developmental disorders is the widespread use of fertility treatments, often in situations that are high risk to start with (AMA, family history, etc). I don't think there's a conspiracy theory surrounding the issue, but I think there's a big push to avoid saying it.

I agree and thought I was the only person who took note of this. Every autistic child I know had a mom who did some kind of fertility treatment.

Don't you think they're studying this already? My anecdotal evidence actually is the opposite of yours.

I don't know a single parent of a child with autism who had fertility treatments. I have two friends whose daughters have autism, both had the girls as newlyweds in their 20s. My friend with an autistic son actually had an oops pregnancy with a FWB - again, no treatments. My three or four friends who did fertility treatments all have neurotypical children.

Has anyone explored the possibility that autism is simply diagnosed more often than it was 30+ years ago? Not because its prevalence has actually risen but because we better understand how to diagnose it?

Sure, but there is also a reason that we have the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986. And it's not because zero harm is ever done by vaccines. It's because TOO MANY vaccine injuries were proven and the lobbyists successfully convinced congress to protect them from lawsuits so that the vaccine manufacturers didn't have to worry too much about being accountable for it.

I don't think anyone has ever said vaccines are 100% safe and there is zero risk of injury. What has been said is that the vaccine-autism link was debunked because no one could actually replicate Andrew Wakefield's results, and because he did not disclose his study was specifically funded by individuals seeking to go against vaccine manufacturers.

Every medication has potential side effects. The likes of Tylenol, which most of us take and administer to sick babies, have been known to cause adverse reactions or even death. Vaccine brochures openly state there is a risk of an adverse reaction and include death in that listing - I've been given a pamphlet that lists the risks every single time.

People really should study the biochemistry of the "other ingredients" in vaccines before they determine that they only cause adverse side effects "sometimes". Aluminum, thimerisol, polysorbate 80, monosodium glutamate, squalene, formaldehyde, sorbitol, etc. injected directly into your body are not ok and anyone that can't see that is crazy.

So my conspiracy theory is that they are dangerous and causing disease and that no one will ever allow that evidence to come out so of course no one believes they are harmful...and no one will ever be able to "prove" it. In some people, they cause autism, learning disabilities, allergies, asthma, autoimmune disease, ADHD, depression, anxiety, behavior problems, cancer, etc. All of the things we have seen an immense rise in in the past 20 years.

Moderna vax ingredients (from cdc.gov):
WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS IN THE MODERNA COVID-19 VACCINE?
The Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine contains the following ingredients: messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA), lipids (SM-102, polyethylene glycol [PEG] 2000 dimyristoyl glycerol [DMG], cholesterol, and 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine [DSPC]), tromethamine, tromethamine hydrochloride, acetic acid, sodium acetate, and sucrose.

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I don't believe the Qanon theory, but when people say that it is crazy to think Trump or one of his aides would be hanging out on 8kun and posting secret plans, I'm like, well have you seen these people? It wouldn't shock me if that part of the conspiracy were true. I mean, why WOULDN'T Trump, Giuliani or Steven Miller be hanging out on 8kun calling their political enemies child-eating pedophiles?

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Sometimes I believe we are living in a simulated universe. We are playthings for a higher being.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened Wednesday was a coup attempt with the tacit support of some elements of law enforcement.

THIS. no one was available to protect the capital? Defies belief.

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Anonymous wrote:The pandemic is a scam. I believe it's overblown and that schools should be 100% open for all kids up to age 12.

I believe in masks and vaccines but I think it's a scam that only rich kids who can afford private got to go back.

How do you think it is a scam? I am genuinely curious because clearly lots of people think the same thing. Do you think it was made up or that the death rates aren't high enough to warrant the alarm?

I don’t think any or most of the information about COVID is being reported accurately. It is a terrible disease among nursing home residents (who don’t have good health in the first place) but the death numbers among other groups are are exaggerated and so many have mild cases. Those who are benefiting from the lock down will keep it going for as long as they can. Many others have suffered more than they would have without it.

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Crazy long poster please stop. Open your own thread. You need to talk with a mental health professional.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened Wednesday was a coup attempt with the tacit support of some elements of law enforcement.

THIS. no one was available to protect the capital? Defies belief.

Well this is a fact, not a conspiracy.

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I want this thread to come back. What else ya got, people??

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Anonymous wrote:COVID-19 was a natural bat virus being studied at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and crappy safety protocols let it out. The Chinese knew about it for the whole fall of 2019 and covered it up.

I don’t believe this is a wild theory- I think it’s true.

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Anonymous wrote:The pandemic is a scam. I believe it's overblown and that schools should be 100% open for all kids up to age 12.

I believe in masks and vaccines but I think it's a scam that only rich kids who can afford private got to go back.

How do you think it is a scam? I am genuinely curious because clearly lots of people think the same thing. Do you think it was made up or that the death rates aren't high enough to warrant the alarm?

I don’t think any or most of the information about COVID is being reported accurately. It is a terrible disease among nursing home residents (who don’t have good health in the first place) but the death numbers among other groups are are exaggerated and so many have mild cases. Those who are benefiting from the lock down will keep it going for as long as they can. Many others have suffered more than they would have without it.

Agree. Why though? For what purpose? We are missing something.

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Anonymous wrote:Flight 93 was shot down by US military

Yes, I absolutely believe this.

No. It was diverted to another country for the reason I don't wish to tell. There are no survivors.

Maybe organ harvesting?

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Anonymous wrote:The pandemic is a scam. I believe it's overblown and that schools should be 100% open for all kids up to age 12.

I believe in masks and vaccines but I think it's a scam that only rich kids who can afford private got to go back.

How do you think it is a scam? I am genuinely curious because clearly lots of people think the same thing. Do you think it was made up or that the death rates aren't high enough to warrant the alarm?

I don’t think any or most of the information about COVID is being reported accurately. It is a terrible disease among nursing home residents (who don’t have good health in the first place) but the death numbers among other groups are are exaggerated and so many have mild cases. Those who are benefiting from the lock down will keep it going for as long as they can. Many others have suffered more than they would have without it.

Agree. Why though? For what purpose? We are missing something.

I'm going to say that a weak economy, a failed healthcare system, and the various markets surrounding healthcare and organizations being paid may have something to do with it. Mental health awareness, funding support, Affordable Care Act -- I am not suggesting the PP is right but it is a very coincidental storm of certain factors catapulting change broadly, and quickly. Think of how many stakeholders are impacted by our healthcare system, from doctors to patients to facilities to transportation to manufacturers to insurance to education. Covid-19 is requiring a lot of paused conversations to pick back up again. Also, it is a nice little plus tha this shut down could be the only way to cool our planet down from burning itself alive in the next 10 years. Of course no one would agree to cut 80% of energy output and disrupt another economy to do so.

Just wild conspiracy ramblings I am not so strong about them to say I believe it, but I do not put it past Big C.

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Anonymous wrote:The pandemic is a scam. I believe it's overblown and that schools should be 100% open for all kids up to age 12.

I believe in masks and vaccines but I think it's a scam that only rich kids who can afford private got to go back.

How do you think it is a scam? I am genuinely curious because clearly lots of people think the same thing. Do you think it was made up or that the death rates aren't high enough to warrant the alarm?

I don’t think any or most of the information about COVID is being reported accurately. It is a terrible disease among nursing home residents (who don’t have good health in the first place) but the death numbers among other groups are are exaggerated and so many have mild cases. Those who are benefiting from the lock down will keep it going for as long as they can. Many others have suffered more than they would have without it.

Agree. Why though? For what purpose? We are missing something.

I'm going to say that a weak economy, a failed healthcare system, and the various markets surrounding healthcare and organizations being paid may have something to do with it. Mental health awareness, funding support, Affordable Care Act -- I am not suggesting the PP is right but it is a very coincidental storm of certain factors catapulting change broadly, and quickly. Think of how many stakeholders are impacted by our healthcare system, from doctors to patients to facilities to transportation to manufacturers to insurance to education. Covid-19 is requiring a lot of paused conversations to pick back up again. Also, it is a nice little plus tha this shut down could be the only way to cool our planet down from burning itself alive in the next 10 years. Of course no one would agree to cut 80% of energy output and disrupt another economy to do so.

Just wild conspiracy ramblings I am not so strong about them to say I believe it, but I do not put it past Big C.

I definitely have been thinking about the decreased carbon emissions as a result of people working from home because of covid.