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Breaking quarantine is punishable by fines and/or imprisonment. Federal law enforced by states. http://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/aboutlawsregulationsquarantineisolation.html
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Anonymous wrote:So they rule put ebola based on her answering questions? Horse shit quarantine her for 21 days.


Wtf?! Are you going to quarantine everyone who vomits in public? She didn't meet the criteria.
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Point is he infected two people and one of them was extremely irresponsible. She wasn;t feeling well when she left for Akron and she certainly wasn't feeling well when she returned. She knew the risks of exposure and she decided her wants trumped the need to contain the virus. Dr. Nancy Snyderman acted in an equally selfish way but was lucky to have not contracted or spread the virus.


I'm with you on Snyderman, but Amber gets a pass. She asked the CDC what to do. They are at fault. Amber may be guilty of a foolish decision, but not, I believe, a selfish one.


I agree about Amber- she sought clearance from the CDC before she traveled. Snyderman, OTOH, was fucking irresponsible and what she did as a physician was borderline unethical.

Snyderman should have been fired by NBC.


Wasn't Snyderman in her own car the whole time? If she never got out of her car (except at home, obviously) how did she put anyone else at risk?


Snyderman was seen dining in a crowded NYC restaurant.

While the nurse checked with the CDC on her way home, she never should have gone to Akron. She wasn't feeling well and her wants trumped everyone else's needs.

Relax. Nobody is going to get sick from eating with Nancy Snyderman or flying to Akron because that's not how Ebola is spread.


Dude, look, while Nancy Snyderman doesn't have ebola, it's not a huge issue but she still acted irresponsibly and set a bad precedent. Now, the nurse who flew to Akron, could have infected someone. I think many of you are not fully understanding how it spread and what fluids transmit the disease. One symptom is profusive sweating and the sweat is a bodily fluid that contains the virus and is known to spread the virus. Sweaty sheets are contagious for 10 days after they have dried and have been known to cause others to become ill.

The stewardess could have touched the rim of the nurse's glass and then touched her face. Really, that's all it takes.
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Point is he infected two people and one of them was extremely irresponsible. She wasn;t feeling well when she left for Akron and she certainly wasn't feeling well when she returned. She knew the risks of exposure and she decided her wants trumped the need to contain the virus. Dr. Nancy Snyderman acted in an equally selfish way but was lucky to have not contracted or spread the virus.


I'm with you on Snyderman, but Amber gets a pass. She asked the CDC what to do. They are at fault. Amber may be guilty of a foolish decision, but not, I believe, a selfish one.


I agree about Amber- she sought clearance from the CDC before she traveled. Snyderman, OTOH, was fucking irresponsible and what she did as a physician was borderline unethical.

Snyderman should have been fired by NBC.


Wasn't Snyderman in her own car the whole time? If she never got out of her car (except at home, obviously) how did she put anyone else at risk?


Snyderman was seen dining in a crowded NYC restaurant.

While the nurse checked with the CDC on her way home, she never should have gone to Akron. She wasn't feeling well and her wants trumped everyone else's needs.


No, she was seen in her car outside a restaurant in Princeton, while someone in the car exited to pick up food from the takeout window.
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A light-hearted but nonetheless critical article about Nancy Snyderman's irresponsible behavior. To those who say that her breaking the quarantine was not a big deal, the state of NJ has made her quarantine mandatory.

What is striking is her unwillingness to accept personal responsibility for what transpired and NBC downplaying what she did.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-kass-met-1015-20141014-column.html

This woman is a fricking physician who goes on the air advising the public at large on health issues and then feels free to do what she wants in contravention of the usual quaratine protocols.
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Anonymous wrote:A light-hearted but nonetheless critical article about Nancy Snyderman's irresponsible behavior. To those who say that her breaking the quarantine was not a big deal, the state of NJ has made her quarantine mandatory.

What is striking is her unwillingness to accept personal responsibility for what transpired and NBC downplaying what she did.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-kass-met-1015-20141014-column.html

This woman is a fricking physician who goes on the air advising the public at large on health issues and then feels free to do what she wants in contravention of the usual quaratine protocols.[/quote

Hope that quack gets fired.
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Watching this tonight

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Point is he infected two people and one of them was extremely irresponsible. She wasn;t feeling well when she left for Akron and she certainly wasn't feeling well when she returned. She knew the risks of exposure and she decided her wants trumped the need to contain the virus. Dr. Nancy Snyderman acted in an equally selfish way but was lucky to have not contracted or spread the virus.


I'm with you on Snyderman, but Amber gets a pass. She asked the CDC what to do. They are at fault. Amber may be guilty of a foolish decision, but not, I believe, a selfish one.


I agree about Amber- she sought clearance from the CDC before she traveled. Snyderman, OTOH, was fucking irresponsible and what she did as a physician was borderline unethical.

Snyderman should have been fired by NBC.


Wasn't Snyderman in her own car the whole time? If she never got out of her car (except at home, obviously) how did she put anyone else at risk?



Snyderman was seen dining in a crowded NYC restaurant.

While the nurse checked with the CDC on her way home, she never should have gone to Akron. She wasn't feeling well and her wants trumped everyone else's needs.


It's people like you who are making shit up that contribute to the hysteria. She was not seen dining in an NYC restaurant. She drove in a car to a restaurant in Princeton, stayed in the car the whole time, as the driver of the car -- also under voluntary quarantine at the time -- ran in to pick up takeout.

I agree she was in the wrong and should not have gone. I honestly hope she is fined by the state and now she is under mandatory quarantine, but there's no reason to make stuff bigger than it is. Someone who didn't know the facts and read your post would be thinking that she was walking up and down the streets of midtown NYC or on the subway sweating all over the thousands of people on the sidewalk . . . .
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The first person under quarantine in Dallas has been cleared.

http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/hospital-workers-who-cared-for-countrys-first-ebola-patient-asked-to-limit-movement.html/

One of the first 48 people who came in contact with the country’s first Ebola patient has been cleared, Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings said Friday.

The man, who has not been identified, has shown no symptoms of the virus for 21 days and is no longer under quarantine. He came into direct contact with Thomas Eric Duncan, of Liberia, who died last week from the Ebola virus.

Rawlings said the man visited the Ivy Apartments where Duncan was staying. The man’s contact with Duncan came days before Duncan was rushed to a hospital on Sept. 28.

“This was the first contact they could trace,” Rawlings said, adding the man was in the apartment when Duncan was sick and then left.
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Ebola virus no match for US health care

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/17/ebola-hospital-cdc-expert-voices/17377223/

Ebola is Rollin's life. A top expert for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Rollin has studied the pathogen for nearly three decades and has combated it in the remotest corners of the globe. He recently returned from a two-month stint on the front lines of the Ebola fight in Liberia and Guinea.

Rollin is in Dallas reviewing the Ebola response at Texas Health Presbyterian hospital, where nurses Nina Pham and Amber Vinson recently contracted the virus while caring for Thomas Eric Duncan, a Liberian and the first person to die from Ebola in the USA.

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His time at the hospital has taught him a few things about Ebola in America: A) Hospital staffers need to be better trained to combat the virus, and B) Ebola doesn't stand a chance against the medical infrastructure of U.S. cities.

What happened at Texas Health Presbyterian hospital was the result of high-level gear and competent staff facing an unknown virus for the first time – not an irreversible collapse of competency, he said.
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Anonymous wrote:So they rule put ebola based on her answering questions? Horse shit quarantine her for 21 days.


Her employer said she has not left the country


Apparently, she made up the story about being in West Africa.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/10/17/sick-woman-causes-ebola-scare-at-pentagon-patient-being-evaluated/

A woman who caused an Ebola scare Friday and caused police to shut down a Pentagon entrance and a portion of the parking lot later confessed to hospital officials she had fabricated a story about recently traveling to West Africa, multiple government sources told Fox News.

At the same time, the Arlington County Health Department issued a statement saying medical authorities were confident she did not have Ebola.

A senior source familiar with the investigation told FoxNews.com that despite what she initially told police officers at the scene, there was no evidence she had recently left the country.

The woman, who got sick and threw up in a parking lot after a bus ride to a military event, was quarantined at INOVA Fairfax Hospital after telling officers she had been in Liberia two weeks ago, Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Tom Crosson said.

A military official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the woman, who has not been named, works for Total Spectrum, whose website says it is a lobbying and public relations firm. Managing Director Steve Gordon told The Associated Press the Pentagon had contacted him, and he claimed the woman had not been out of the Washington area.
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^^This probably should be updated to read:

"A military official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the woman, who has not been named, worked for Total Spectrum."
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Point is he infected two people and one of them was extremely irresponsible. She wasn;t feeling well when she left for Akron and she certainly wasn't feeling well when she returned. She knew the risks of exposure and she decided her wants trumped the need to contain the virus. Dr. Nancy Snyderman acted in an equally selfish way but was lucky to have not contracted or spread the virus.


I'm with you on Snyderman, but Amber gets a pass. She asked the CDC what to do. They are at fault. Amber may be guilty of a foolish decision, but not, I believe, a selfish one.


I agree about Amber- she sought clearance from the CDC before she traveled. Snyderman, OTOH, was fucking irresponsible and what she did as a physician was borderline unethical.

Snyderman should have been fired by NBC.


Wasn't Snyderman in her own car the whole time? If she never got out of her car (except at home, obviously) how did she put anyone else at risk?



Snyderman was seen dining in a crowded NYC restaurant.

While the nurse checked with the CDC on her way home, she never should have gone to Akron. She wasn't feeling well and her wants trumped everyone else's needs.


It's people like you who are making shit up that contribute to the hysteria. She was not seen dining in an NYC restaurant. She drove in a car to a restaurant in Princeton, stayed in the car the whole time, as the driver of the car -- also under voluntary quarantine at the time -- ran in to pick up takeout.

I agree she was in the wrong and should not have gone. I honestly hope she is fined by the state and now she is under mandatory quarantine, but there's no reason to make stuff bigger than it is. Someone who didn't know the facts and read your post would be thinking that she was walking up and down the streets of midtown NYC or on the subway sweating all over the thousands of people on the sidewalk . . . .


http://www.tmz.com/2014/10/15/dr-nancy-snyderman-maid-fired-ebola-quarantine/
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Hmmm, I guess she either said it as a joke, or because she knew it was a great way to get top quality medical attention. Or she is mentally unstable.
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Anonymous wrote:So they rule put ebola based on her answering questions? Horse shit quarantine her for 21 days.


Her employer said she has not left the country


Apparently, she made up the story about being in West Africa.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/10/17/sick-woman-causes-ebola-scare-at-pentagon-patient-being-evaluated/

A woman who caused an Ebola scare Friday and caused police to shut down a Pentagon entrance and a portion of the parking lot later confessed to hospital officials she had fabricated a story about recently traveling to West Africa, multiple government sources told Fox News.

At the same time, the Arlington County Health Department issued a statement saying medical authorities were confident she did not have Ebola.

A senior source familiar with the investigation told FoxNews.com that despite what she initially told police officers at the scene, there was no evidence she had recently left the country.

The woman, who got sick and threw up in a parking lot after a bus ride to a military event, was quarantined at INOVA Fairfax Hospital after telling officers she had been in Liberia two weeks ago, Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Tom Crosson said.

A military official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the woman, who has not been named, works for Total Spectrum, whose website says it is a lobbying and public relations firm. Managing Director Steve Gordon told The Associated Press the Pentagon had contacted him, and he claimed the woman had not been out of the Washington area.


She should be charged
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