ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The point is if ECNL goes SY and MLS does not then boys will go to ECNL to take advantage of the difference and thus close the gap and therefore strengthen ECNL altogether

As the kids get older, Q3/4 boys will lean towards ECNL and Q1/2 will lean towards MLSN.

MLSN doesn't/won't have much need for Q3/4 boys so ECNL will be filling a relatively untapped market with Q3/4 boys when they go school year.

RAE for boys could be less of an issue going forward.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From what I understand clubs also have complained to league reps about management of multiple age systems. So if the majority of youth soccer leagues are playing some type of school system cut off will clubs want to deal with MLSN for boys if they can join ECNL boys and everyone is in sync. Which also would potentially give their girls access to ECNL which means more money for the club.

Speaking that I saw a post by SD Surf that claimed to be the #1 ECNL boys side AND the #1 non-MLSN boys club. Interesting distinction imo.

LOL, MLSN Pay to Play clubs always try to pretend they are in the same group of MLS Academy teams, and seems one step above ECNL, which they are absolutely not.

The players pay to play MLSN players get looked at by MLS Academy coaches much more often than ECNL players. This is the hook.

How many 09 players from SD Surf ECNL went to MLS Academy? Possibly 6 players. How many 09 Albion and City combined MLS players went to Academy, maybe 3 or 4?

[Anonymous]

The problem for mlsnext is obvious.

If 20% or so of the current mlsnext kids — those with birthdays between August to December — decide being one of the top ECNL players is better than being a bench mlsnext player they shift leagues.

And, who replaces them on the mlsnext squad? The January - June birthday kids currently playing ECNL? No. There are reasons why they aren’t playing mlsnext currently.

That’s the mlsnext problem. They can lose 20% of their kids and not have good replacements. Suddenly the ECNL teams look much “better”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem for mlsnext is obvious.

If 20% or so of the current mlsnext kids — those with birthdays between August to December — decide being one of the top ECNL players is better than being a bench mlsnext player they shift leagues.

And, who replaces them on the mlsnext squad? The January - June birthday kids currently playing ECNL? No. There are reasons why they aren’t playing mlsnext currently.

That’s the mlsnext problem. They can lose 20% of their kids and not have good replacements. Suddenly the ECNL teams look much “better”.

Seriously stop trying to apply your girl logic to boys.

With boys all the top players play on MLS Academy teams. These players are all under contract through MLS and this is where college recruiters go first when looking for talent. Also with the boys there's much less college spots available so showcases don't carry the same weight as they do on the boys side.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem for mlsnext is obvious.

If 20% or so of the current mlsnext kids — those with birthdays between August to December — decide being one of the top ECNL players is better than being a bench mlsnext player they shift leagues.

And, who replaces them on the mlsnext squad? The January - June birthday kids currently playing ECNL? No. There are reasons why they aren’t playing mlsnext currently.

That’s the mlsnext problem. They can lose 20% of their kids and not have good replacements. Suddenly the ECNL teams look much “better”.

For MLSN teams without a deep bench, this would be an issue but if a team has say 16 of 22 being pretty good players, losing 3-4 kids off the bench/fringe starters, it won't matter much. But ECNL boys teams will certainly improve as the Q3/4 boys moving over will be now playing down a year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem for mlsnext is obvious.

If 20% or so of the current mlsnext kids — those with birthdays between August to December — decide being one of the top ECNL players is better than being a bench mlsnext player they shift leagues.

And, who replaces them on the mlsnext squad? The January - June birthday kids currently playing ECNL? No. There are reasons why they aren’t playing mlsnext currently.

That’s the mlsnext problem. They can lose 20% of their kids and not have good replacements. Suddenly the ECNL teams look much “better”.

Seriously stop trying to apply your girl logic to boys.

With boys all the top players play on MLS Academy teams. These players are all under contract through MLS and this is where college recruiters go first when looking for talent. Also with the boys there's much less college spots available so showcases don't carry the same weight as they do on the boys side.

If MLSN stays BY and ECNL goes SY, then MLSN kids are a bit misaligned for college recruiters if colleges want to take advantage of RAE. Will be interesting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem for mlsnext is obvious.

If 20% or so of the current mlsnext kids — those with birthdays between August to December — decide being one of the top ECNL players is better than being a bench mlsnext player they shift leagues.

And, who replaces them on the mlsnext squad? The January - June birthday kids currently playing ECNL? No. There are reasons why they aren’t playing mlsnext currently.

That’s the mlsnext problem. They can lose 20% of their kids and not have good replacements. Suddenly the ECNL teams look much “better”.

Seriously stop trying to apply your girl logic to boys.

With boys all the top players play on MLS Academy teams. These players are all under contract through MLS and this is where college recruiters go first when looking for talent. Also with the boys there's much less college spots available so showcases don't carry the same weight as they do on the boys side.

If MLSN stays BY and ECNL goes SY, then MLSN kids are a bit misaligned for college recruiters if colleges want to take advantage of RAE. Will be interesting.

MLS Next has biobanding so RAE doesn't matter. Also the top players on MLS Acadamies are usually playing up 1-2 years.

Your girl dad mind doesn't comprehend how MLS Acadamies function because there's no equivalent for a true Acadamy club on the girls side. (In the US)

For boys college teams are FULL of 24 year old freshman that just recently washed out of XYZ foreign Academy. This is who American youth soccer players are competing for roster spots with on college teams. RAE doesn't matter in this type of environment after u14. You can play in a regular MLS Next club and do biobanding but once you hit puberty it's done. Either you're the next top player or you don't matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem for mlsnext is obvious.

If 20% or so of the current mlsnext kids — those with birthdays between August to December — decide being one of the top ECNL players is better than being a bench mlsnext player they shift leagues.

And, who replaces them on the mlsnext squad? The January - June birthday kids currently playing ECNL? No. There are reasons why they aren’t playing mlsnext currently.

That’s the mlsnext problem. They can lose 20% of their kids and not have good replacements. Suddenly the ECNL teams look much “better”.

Ridiculous wishful thinking

Leave the best league to play in a lower league

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem for mlsnext is obvious.

If 20% or so of the current mlsnext kids — those with birthdays between August to December — decide being one of the top ECNL players is better than being a bench mlsnext player they shift leagues.

And, who replaces them on the mlsnext squad? The January - June birthday kids currently playing ECNL? No. There are reasons why they aren’t playing mlsnext currently.

That’s the mlsnext problem. They can lose 20% of their kids and not have good replacements. Suddenly the ECNL teams look much “better”.

Seriously stop trying to apply your girl logic to boys.

With boys all the top players play on MLS Academy teams. These players are all under contract through MLS and this is where college recruiters go first when looking for talent. Also with the boys there's much less college spots available so showcases don't carry the same weight as they do on the boys side.

If MLSN stays BY and ECNL goes SY, then MLSN kids are a bit misaligned for college recruiters if colleges want to take advantage of RAE. Will be interesting.

Colleges are prioritizing MLSN over ECNL for boys no matter what.

[Anonymous]

ECNL for Boys = GA for Girls
MLSN for Boys = ENCL for Girls
GA2 or ECNL-RL for both genders = money makers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem for mlsnext is obvious.

If 20% or so of the current mlsnext kids — those with birthdays between August to December — decide being one of the top ECNL players is better than being a bench mlsnext player they shift leagues.

And, who replaces them on the mlsnext squad? The January - June birthday kids currently playing ECNL? No. There are reasons why they aren’t playing mlsnext currently.

That’s the mlsnext problem. They can lose 20% of their kids and not have good replacements. Suddenly the ECNL teams look much “better”.

Seriously stop trying to apply your girl logic to boys.

With boys all the top players play on MLS Academy teams. These players are all under contract through MLS and this is where college recruiters go first when looking for talent. Also with the boys there's much less college spots available so showcases don't carry the same weight as they do on the boys side.

If MLSN stays BY and ECNL goes SY, then MLSN kids are a bit misaligned for college recruiters if colleges want to take advantage of RAE. Will be interesting.

MLS Next has biobanding so RAE doesn't matter. Also the top players on MLS Acadamies are usually playing up 1-2 years.

Your girl dad mind doesn't comprehend how MLS Acadamies function because there's no equivalent for a true Acadamy club on the girls side. (In the US)

For boys college teams are FULL of 24 year old freshman that just recently washed out of XYZ foreign Academy. This is who American youth soccer players are competing for roster spots with on college teams. RAE doesn't matter in this type of environment after u14. You can play in a regular MLS Next club and do biobanding but once you hit puberty it's done. Either you're the next top player or you don't matter.

Makes you wonder why MLSN was threatened enough to try to block the other leagues from going to SY. And why are MLSN rosters mostly Q1 and 2 kids again?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The point is if ECNL goes SY and MLS does not then boys will go to ECNL to take advantage of the difference and thus close the gap and therefore strengthen ECNL altogether

As the kids get older, Q3/4 boys will lean towards ECNL and Q1/2 will lean towards MLSN.

MLSN doesn't/won't have much need for Q3/4 boys so ECNL will be filling a relatively untapped market with Q3/4 boys when they go school year.

RAE for boys could be less of an issue going forward.

Great theory. Not why people choose a platform though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The point is if ECNL goes SY and MLS does not then boys will go to ECNL to take advantage of the difference and thus close the gap and therefore strengthen ECNL altogether

As the kids get older, Q3/4 boys will lean towards ECNL and Q1/2 will lean towards MLSN.

MLSN doesn't/won't have much need for Q3/4 boys so ECNL will be filling a relatively untapped market with Q3/4 boys when they go school year.

RAE for boys could be less of an issue going forward.

Great theory. Not why people choose a platform though.

The platform chooses the people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ECNL for Boys = GA for Girls
MLSN for Boys = ENCL for Girls
GA2 or ECNL-RL for both genders = money makers

This is a stupid statement. Have been in 2 MLSN clubs, and I am not impressed. Most starters will be on the bench of the 3 ECNL teams in my area. I will switch to ECNL next season.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ECNL for Boys = GA for Girls
MLSN for Boys = ENCL for Girls
GA2 or ECNL-RL for both genders = money makers

Yup. Spot on.