Who would assume the liability of an armed teacher’s actions?

[Anonymous]

Say arming teachers happens.

Say another shooting happens and before the teacher can get to their weapon, 5 kids are shot. Or the gun jams. Or the teacher freezes up. Or they’re just a lousy shot.

Will the parents of the kids who were shot sue the school system or the individual teacher?

You can’t tell me if not every child made it out alive that parents wouldn’t sue.

[Anonymous]

Or the teacher attempts to shoot the shooter and hits/kills another student by accident. The whole ideai is just ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

It’s a non starter. Just a distraction to get people riled up and wait til news cycle passes. Totally cynical. Don’t take the bait.

[Anonymous]

Possibly a good question.

Im sure though, that this won't happen. Trump will arm teachers who are adept at these things. Such as former military people who left the military.

Or something like that.

[Anonymous]

Not a good idea. The teacher might be trained and really good at it. But I'm not confident that the teacher is trained to handle chaos situation. Don't try to be a hero with your gun in school. That's not your place. Just teach.

[Anonymous]

Not your worry

[Anonymous]

I only want combat veterans to become armed teachers. That would be really good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I only want combat veterans to become armed teachers. That would be really good.

Because having been in combat in Iraq or Afghanistan (or wherever) trains you to react appropriately to a school shooter in the school you're teaching in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I only want combat veterans to become armed teachers. That would be really good.

Because having been in combat in Iraq or Afghanistan (or wherever) trains you to react appropriately to a school shooter in the school you're teaching in?

No, because the PTSD really gives them that edge.

Actual combat vets I know have been posting about what a terrible idea this is, talking about the realities of a firefight in a building--the confusion, the crossfire, the noise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I only want combat veterans to become armed teachers. That would be really good.

Because having been in combat in Iraq or Afghanistan (or wherever) trains you to react appropriately to a school shooter in the school you're teaching in?

No, because the PTSD really gives them that edge.

Actual combat vets I know have been posting about what a terrible idea this is, talking about the realities of a firefight in a building--the confusion, the crossfire, the noise.

I can't imagine a combat vet with PTSD even wanting to conceal carry in a school. They might teach in the school knowing that the likelihood of a school shooting is small but they shouldn't ever be put in the position of carrying a weapon in the school.

I can see how a person with training as a police officer, MP, FBI agent, etc might be good to have in the schools in a non-distracting, not so obvious way. Just knowing that there might be school staff with that sort of highly skilled training within the school might be reassuring to the students and the rest of the staff It also might serve as a deterrent to these shooters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I only want combat veterans to become armed teachers. That would be really good.

Because having been in combat in Iraq or Afghanistan (or wherever) trains you to react appropriately to a school shooter in the school you're teaching in?

No, because the PTSD really gives them that edge.

Actual combat vets I know have been posting about what a terrible idea this is, talking about the realities of a firefight in a building--the confusion, the crossfire, the noise.

I can't imagine a combat vet with PTSD even wanting to conceal carry in a school. They might teach in the school knowing that the likelihood of a school shooting is small but they shouldn't ever be put in the position of carrying a weapon in the school.

I can see how a person with training as a police officer, MP, FBI agent, etc might be good to have in the schools in a non-distracting, not so obvious way. Just knowing that there might be school staff with that sort of highly skilled training within the school might be reassuring to the students and the rest of the staff It also might serve as a deterrent to these shooters.

Like the officers who stood outside the school in Florida while mass carnage was taking place inside?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Possibly a good question.

Im sure though, that this won't happen. Trump will arm teachers who are adept at these things. Such as former military people who left the military.

Or something like that.

The ex-military people I know go into consulting after leaving the service. It pays a heck of a lot more than teaching and they're able to maintain their clearance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I only want combat veterans to become armed teachers. That would be really good.

Because having been in combat in Iraq or Afghanistan (or wherever) trains you to react appropriately to a school shooter in the school you're teaching in?

No, because the PTSD really gives them that edge.

Actual combat vets I know have been posting about what a terrible idea this is, talking about the realities of a firefight in a building--the confusion, the crossfire, the noise.

I’m an actual combat vet (who, like most fellow combat vets, does not have PTSD and who also knows that civilian rates of PTSD are actually higher than military rates). But that aside, this is a HORRIBLE idea. I would be fine with a national service of competent professionals that protect schools, like a school version of Air Marshals. I would also be extremely comfortable with security screening at entrances of schools. If a combat vet wanted to become a teacher (and like a pp said, it so unlikely that the sort of vet you’d want to be armed in a school would take the low salaries since they command high salaries in consulting) it could possibly be marginally helpful. But there wouldn’t be enough *competent* takers to make a dent.

[Anonymous]

Recently there was a legal decision around Baltimore (forgive me, I can't recall where) that made it possible for "victims" to sue (and win) against police officers for damages & we're not talking only about malicious brutality, just anything that could happen in a tense and fluid environment.

I would expect that if you're asking teachers to act like police officers and arm themselves in a similar fashion, the same would be true. Terrible.

[Anonymous]

Oh, please.

You are posting on here like they are going to go out and issue guns to teachers. I don't think anyone has suggested that.

They are talking about arming those who are already proficient and providing additional training. That coach who gave his life was a gun owner. I think we all should wish he had had a gun.