when schools focus on the wrong things (from a teacher)

Anonymous
I have been teaching for 15 years and I've seen ideas and practices come and go during that time. What I really don't understand is why the people who haven't actually stepped foot in a classroom in years, or have never actually taught core academic subjects are the ones coming up with the ideas that suck up the time.

Why don't they understand that spending time doing an exercise where we are asked to create questions we can ask each other about our data (after we've spent the time collecting and transferring it to their preferred format) is very low on the list of priorities of how we could best use our planning time? Being asked to meet with your team and create a list of ways to quantify feedback when you still need to pee and scarf down lunch before you have to get your kids from recess is not the way to ensure that the afternoon lessons will run smoothly because you didn't end up having time to provision supplies needed for your engaging math lesson you had planned. Instead you were trying to figure out what they wanted you to say so you could just get it done and sent to admin.

I feel like most of the time spent in these meetings is just trying to figure out what they want to hear so you can put it on an exit card or shared Google doc and get the hell out of there. Whatever point they might have been trying to make is lost because all teachers are thinking about is the "real" work they have to get done after the meeting is finally over. Sitting in those meetings doesn't help engaging lessons get planned. What they do is ensure that there won't be enough time to spend on planning lessons or prepping materials, so that has to take a seat on the back burner.

Why do meetings and endless exercises in futility take precedence over working with students, creating and prepping materials, planning engaging lessons, having time to provide meaningful feedback to students and collaborating in a meaningful way with colleagues (not just covering what's on admin's collaborative planning template that they force you to use so they can send it to their boss and show evidence of collaboration)?

Then they have the audacity to tell you that you're responsible for not meeting students' needs when they've wasted so much of your time with bullshit.

Every day is like triage--what is the most pressing need at this moment? Sending a list of ways that feedback can be quantified is not the most pressing need today, or likely any day.

Just let me use my planning time to, you know, actually plan. Do they really believe this stuff is of utmost importance? How out of touch can they be? How is it that people can work in a school and not realize what teaching actually entails on a day to day basis, so they think that you have time to sit with your team and create bullshit lists and questions that most likely will never be seen or heard about again? How are people who have never taught math, reading, writing, science and social students the ones making these decisions when they're related to teaching content areas? And if it's coming from their bosses in central office, how have they lost touch so badly with the reality of what's going on in our schools and what students and teachers need in order to be successful? Hint--it's not spending time pontificating about ways to quantify feedback.

Can you tell what kind of week it's been already?

This is really obviously mostly a vent, but if anyone has legitimate answers I would love to hear them.
Anonymous
You have just described my life to a T. 20+ year veteran here. I could do more for my students if 80% of my prep time and after school time wasn't taken up by meetings that have nothing to do with instruction. I would like to leave the profession because of it, but I can't because there is nothing else I can do that will pay me this much, with so much vacation time and a pension. 8 more years and I'm out. I'll do something else when I retire, but education is a train wreck.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You have just described my life to a T. 20+ year veteran here. I could do more for my students if 80% of my prep time and after school time wasn't taken up by meetings that have nothing to do with instruction. I would like to leave the profession because of it, but I can't because there is nothing else I can do that will pay me this much, with so much vacation time and a pension. 8 more years and I'm out. I'll do something else when I retire, but education is a train wreck.


So it’s not just my school? Ha, of course it’s not. I’ve heard it’s not as bad in some schools but I am concerned that I’ll make the move and it will be just as bad. It doesn’t help matters that my principal literally threw a temper tantrum this week when she felt like people weren’t responding to her quickly enough. Does she really think that we’re sitting in front of our computers all day waiting to respond to ridiculous requests in lieu of actually teaching? It’s a Catch 22 because if she walked in to our rooms and we were returning an email with students in the room she’d write us up.
-OP
Anonymous
I'm a parent who pays close attention-not even a teacher-and I see it and think this is insanity. Every politician promises to change things too and nothing happens. I don't understand how we get out of this mess. People will say run for school board. I follow the meetings. What a massive waste of time so many of those meetings are.

OP, I wish i could wave a magic want and make all this time consuming BS go away.
Anonymous
Well said, OP. From an elementary teacher in FCPS
Anonymous
I could've written this myself. I am about to start a meeting at another school so there is a sub covering my classes until I get back. Then I have another meeting for the last hour of the day about God only knows what. This is what happens when business people get involved in education. They try to replicate their work environment in schools. Our district's "new" initiatives" are the same ones from 4 years ago but they just renamed them. Just let me plan, teach and grade!
Anonymous
This is the kind of BS that is taking teachers away from teaching and planning? For what purpose?
Anonymous
Not a teacher but you've basically described my work life too. We're in an age where everything revolves around quantifiable results even in areas where you can't really quantify. It's all stupid busywork made up by consultants charging tons of money to figure out how to get the best ROI - which over and over again with every new idea just proves to be a timesuck.
Anonymous
Print it out. Send it anonymously to the Superintendent.
Anonymous
I have a feeling we work in the same district. How does it make sense that 2 out of 5 people on my school's core team (one of whom is the principal) taught PE or art and have never taught the subjects they're supposedly "experts" on?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: I'm a parent who pays close attention-not even a teacher-and I see it and think this is insanity. Every politician promises to change things too and nothing happens. I don't understand how we get out of this mess. People will say run for school board. I follow the meetings. What a massive waste of time so many of those meetings are.

OP, I wish i could wave a magic want and make all this time consuming BS go away.


Also a parent and agree that it’s terrible. I have volunteered in MCPS for years and am close with many fantastic Teachers. Hear this complaint over and over.
Anonymous
Can you give me an example of what you are talking about?
Anonymous
I just love to go meetings to "unpack the standards " and then "drill into the data" to discover that Johnny can't subtract as well as Bobby can. I knew that in the first hour of math instruction in September. But, I must learn how to differentiate my teaching and use a project based assessment to show that kids are achieving so the stakeholders will be happy. Don't forget to "jot your thought" on a sticky note and share it with your "elbow partner" before taking a "gallery walk" to see other' ideas posted on the "parking lot" large sheets of paper (which will never see the light of day again).
Anonymous
I could've written this myself. I am about to start a meeting at another school so there is a sub covering my classes until I get back. Then I have another meeting for the last hour of the day about God only knows what. This is what happens when business people get involved in education. They try to replicate their work environment in schools. Our district's "new" initiatives" are the same ones from 4 years ago but they just renamed them. Just let me plan, teach and grade!


And, they wonder why there is a sub shortage to boot!

Here is a suggestion to administrators and politicians:

Let the teachers teach.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I just love to go meetings to "unpack the standards " and then "drill into the data" to discover that Johnny can't subtract as well as Bobby can. I knew that in the first hour of math instruction in September. But, I must learn how to differentiate my teaching and use a project based assessment to show that kids are achieving so the stakeholders will be happy. Don't forget to "jot your thought" on a sticky note and share it with your "elbow partner" before taking a "gallery walk" to see other' ideas posted on the "parking lot" large sheets of paper (which will never see the light of day again).


You want to know what I'm tired of? Teachers that complain but never do so to their bosses. No parent knows about meetings that you have and no taxpayer really wants to fund them. If they are ineffective step up and say something about it. Teachers are among the top five types of employees in the country. How is it possible that you have no say in your own meetings?

Also, don't act like you really check whether Johnny is achieving whether you know his skills the first week or the 100th. Weeks go by and you probably haven't checked a single paper. Teachers don't grade papers at home or after work anymore and are just as on board with getting rid of worksheets and any proof of learning as the admin.
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