Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

There is a really unhappy Ward 3 resident repeatedly making some stupid comments on this thread.

I'm not the PP but am quite happy with my kids Ward 3 school options. The schools are large but none are actually overcrowded. Even Wilson is much smaller than most suburban high schools. And my kids can walk to all 3 of their schools.

I'm a lot more concerned about the planet they are inheriting and whether or not it will be inhabitable and the affordability of the city we live in than whether or not my privileged upper middle class white kids who attend a very good set of public schools will get a good education or not.
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I suspect the person repeatedly making this clumsy point is not even a current public school parent.

Troll. But you have already exercised your privilege and live in an area where you can walk to three schools without worrying about the quality of the school. Congratulations.

The rest of your statement is patently made up. If you brought your kids into this world to sacrifice them on the alter of your wokeness then you should probably have your kids taken away. But licensing parenting is a few steps down the road for the Density Bros once they figure out that their school system is tapped out in this city (Easier than fixing the system).

DC Density Bros don’t tend to have kids. More likely, many Bros are still virgins.

[Anonymous]

It’s hard to accept a lecture on density when the vanguard of the Democratic Party have decamped from their 4000 sq/ft Manhattan condos for big houses on big lots in the Hamptons and on the Vineyard. The Democratic nominee is slumming in his 5000 sq/ft beach house because it has a better view than his 7000 sq/ft Wilmington mansion (that he shares with one other human being). But, you’re coming after my 1900 sq/ft AU Park colonial on a postage stamp sized lot?

[Anonymous]

Yes, some of us who live in Ward 3 and realize how lucky we are to be able to live somewhere where our kids can walk to excellent schools also believe the city should make it easier for more people to do this. I don't work for development interests; if it were up to me, the city would be building public housing in Ward 3, not merely loosening zoning regulations to make it easier to build more densely. I am quite certain that adding some kids to the excellent schools here — even (gasp!) poor kids — will not "sacrifice" them on any altar.

If this poster lived in DC they would know that Ward 3 schools do not cater exclusively to Ward 3 kids. Even a DC private school parent know how the DC school zoning and lottery system works and certainly knows that Wilson HS draws from across the city. But alas, they seem to want to make a point by invoking wokeness for 'poor' kid. So go ahead, publicly support your densification projects. I will see you at the meetings and look forward to this exchange IRL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s hard to accept a lecture on density when the vanguard of the Democratic Party have decamped from their 4000 sq/ft Manhattan condos for big houses on big lots in the Hamptons and on the Vineyard. The Democratic nominee is slumming in his 5000 sq/ft beach house because it has a better view than his 7000 sq/ft Wilmington mansion (that he shares with one other human being). But, you’re coming after my 1900 sq/ft AU Park colonial on a postage stamp sized lot?

From the other side, it’s hard to accept a lecture on density in Northwest by a seasoned GOP operative who has been engaged with (or by?) the DC development lobby. The operative’s specialty is selling controversial issues for his clients using message testing to present them in more palatable terms to the public and regulators (“gentle density”?). This Trump pollster sells more height and density by invoking “equity, inclusion, affordable housing, and fighting climate change.” Hilarious.

[Anonymous]

The folks pushing density are primarily developers and white families who are priced out of single family homes WOTP. They cloak themselves in the banner of equity. It’s pretty pathetic. We know who you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, some of us who live in Ward 3 and realize how lucky we are to be able to live somewhere where our kids can walk to excellent schools also believe the city should make it easier for more people to do this. I don't work for development interests; if it were up to me, the city would be building public housing in Ward 3, not merely loosening zoning regulations to make it easier to build more densely. I am quite certain that adding some kids to the excellent schools here — even (gasp!) poor kids — will not "sacrifice" them on any altar.

If this poster lived in DC they would know that Ward 3 schools do not cater exclusively to Ward 3 kids. Even a DC private school parent know how the DC school zoning and lottery system works and certainly knows that Wilson HS draws from across the city. But alas, they seem to want to make a point by invoking wokeness for 'poor' kid. So go ahead, publicly support your densification projects. I will see you at the meetings and look forward to this exchange IRL.

Most of the Ward 3 elementary schools are virtually impossible to get into from out of bounds, but go on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is a really unhappy Ward 3 resident repeatedly making some stupid comments on this thread.

I'm not the PP but am quite happy with my kids Ward 3 school options. The schools are large but none are actually overcrowded. Even Wilson is much smaller than most suburban high schools. And my kids can walk to all 3 of their schools.

I'm a lot more concerned about the planet they are inheriting and whether or not it will be inhabitable and the affordability of the city we live in than whether or not my privileged upper middle class white kids who attend a very good set of public schools will get a good education or not.

I suspect the person repeatedly making this clumsy point is not even a current public school parent.

Troll. But you have already exercised your privilege and live in an area where you can walk to three schools without worrying about the quality of the school. Congratulations.

The rest of your statement is patently made up. If you brought your kids into this world to sacrifice them on the alter of your wokeness then you should probably have your kids taken away. But licensing parenting is a few steps down the road for the Density Bros once they figure out that their school system is tapped out in this city (Easier than fixing the system).

Yes, some of us who live in Ward 3 and realize how lucky we are to be able to live somewhere where our kids can walk to excellent schools also believe the city should make it easier for more people to do this. I don't work for development interests; if it were up to me, the city would be building public housing in Ward 3, not merely loosening zoning regulations to make it easier to build more densely. I am quite certain that adding some kids to the excellent schools here — even (gasp!) poor kids — will not "sacrifice" them on any altar.

DC just opened a family shelter in Ward 3. Additional, real affordable housing and public housing requires that DC make make investments at sites that the District owns. While there aren’t many such sites in the ward, when they built the Tenley library DC spent a million extra $ for a reinforced structure to support the future addition of several floor of housing on top. It might require a repurposing of a small piece of the Janney playground to make it work. If you’re really an AU Park public school parent, why not step forward and start a petition effort to add public housing at the library/Janney site?

I'd be in favor of that. I'm not naive enough to think many of my neighbors would, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, some of us who live in Ward 3 and realize how lucky we are to be able to live somewhere where our kids can walk to excellent schools also believe the city should make it easier for more people to do this. I don't work for development interests; if it were up to me, the city would be building public housing in Ward 3, not merely loosening zoning regulations to make it easier to build more densely. I am quite certain that adding some kids to the excellent schools here — even (gasp!) poor kids — will not "sacrifice" them on any altar.

If this poster lived in DC they would know that Ward 3 schools do not cater exclusively to Ward 3 kids. Even a DC private school parent know how the DC school zoning and lottery system works and certainly knows that Wilson HS draws from across the city. But alas, they seem to want to make a point by invoking wokeness for 'poor' kid. So go ahead, publicly support your densification projects. I will see you at the meetings and look forward to this exchange IRL.

Most of the Ward 3 elementary schools are virtually impossible to get into from out of bounds, but go on.

So what’s the plan in the mayor’s Comp Plan to build and pay for more school capacity to serve the increase in students resulting from all the density that she wants to add in Ward ?

Bowser? Bowser?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, some of us who live in Ward 3 and realize how lucky we are to be able to live somewhere where our kids can walk to excellent schools also believe the city should make it easier for more people to do this. I don't work for development interests; if it were up to me, the city would be building public housing in Ward 3, not merely loosening zoning regulations to make it easier to build more densely. I am quite certain that adding some kids to the excellent schools here — even (gasp!) poor kids — will not "sacrifice" them on any altar.

If this poster lived in DC they would know that Ward 3 schools do not cater exclusively to Ward 3 kids. Even a DC private school parent know how the DC school zoning and lottery system works and certainly knows that Wilson HS draws from across the city. But alas, they seem to want to make a point by invoking wokeness for 'poor' kid. So go ahead, publicly support your densification projects. I will see you at the meetings and look forward to this exchange IRL.

Most of the Ward 3 elementary schools are virtually impossible to get into from out of bounds, but go on.

Ding ding ding...you have now outed yourself as not even being from DC. You are density bro 'Astro Turf'.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is a really unhappy Ward 3 resident repeatedly making some stupid comments on this thread.

I'm not the PP but am quite happy with my kids Ward 3 school options. The schools are large but none are actually overcrowded. Even Wilson is much smaller than most suburban high schools. And my kids can walk to all 3 of their schools.

I'm a lot more concerned about the planet they are inheriting and whether or not it will be inhabitable and the affordability of the city we live in than whether or not my privileged upper middle class white kids who attend a very good set of public schools will get a good education or not.

I suspect the person repeatedly making this clumsy point is not even a current public school parent.

Troll. But you have already exercised your privilege and live in an area where you can walk to three schools without worrying about the quality of the school. Congratulations.

The rest of your statement is patently made up. If you brought your kids into this world to sacrifice them on the alter of your wokeness then you should probably have your kids taken away. But licensing parenting is a few steps down the road for the Density Bros once they figure out that their school system is tapped out in this city (Easier than fixing the system).

Yes, some of us who live in Ward 3 and realize how lucky we are to be able to live somewhere where our kids can walk to excellent schools also believe the city should make it easier for more people to do this. I don't work for development interests; if it were up to me, the city would be building public housing in Ward 3, not merely loosening zoning regulations to make it easier to build more densely. I am quite certain that adding some kids to the excellent schools here — even (gasp!) poor kids — will not "sacrifice" them on any altar.

DC just opened a family shelter in Ward 3. Additional, real affordable housing and public housing requires that DC make make investments at sites that the District owns. While there aren’t many such sites in the ward, when they built the Tenley library DC spent a million extra $ for a reinforced structure to support the future addition of several floor of housing on top. It might require a repurposing of a small piece of the Janney playground to make it work. If you’re really an AU Park public school parent, why not step forward and start a petition effort to add public housing at the library/Janney site?

The library operates as a day shelter. I can't imagine anyone wanting to live above it, unless it served as another shelter for the people who live in the library. I hope they have taken advantage of this shutdown to deep clean all the libraries.

[Anonymous]

The amazing thing is that the Astro Turfer that PP identified, did not even say anything and still outed themselves out as not being from DC. Classic form of arguing and not saying anything either. The 'go on' comment when you have nothing to say, cannot back your argument up, but hope that people will assume your disdain is some sort of knowledge.

So for the rest of the astro turfers on the thread, here is a little DCPS gouge, which you could have found had you ventured off of your Density Bros threads and into the even more exciting public school threads in this same forum.

Wilson HS has not 'accepted' out of bounds students, as a general policy, since the 2012-2013 ac year. However, its feeder school system comprises every zip code in the district guaranteeing it capacity classes without the need for participation in the lottery. Beyond that, its feeder schools do participate in the lottery and DC has a rule allowing a student to continue in his/her feeder school pipeline once accepted to that school.

So if you were to plot on a map where students from Woodrow Wilson HS, Alice Deal MS and Hardy MS, you would see that they are drawing from across the city from their individual feeder schools.

And to bring this full circle, this is one of the problems that has been identified with the cities return to business responding from COVID. These student need to get to school from across the city and many take public transportation which is appearing to be one of the least safe ways to travel in the time of COVID. We are not sure if we want to put a bunch of young kids (vectors) on the subways and busses from across the city twice a day every day. More work will need to be done to determine exactly what role children play in transferring the virus even if they do not potentially get sick from the virus. Right now the Ward 3 vs Ward 8 COVID disparity is startling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, some of us who live in Ward 3 and realize how lucky we are to be able to live somewhere where our kids can walk to excellent schools also believe the city should make it easier for more people to do this. I don't work for development interests; if it were up to me, the city would be building public housing in Ward 3, not merely loosening zoning regulations to make it easier to build more densely. I am quite certain that adding some kids to the excellent schools here — even (gasp!) poor kids — will not "sacrifice" them on any altar.

If this poster lived in DC they would know that Ward 3 schools do not cater exclusively to Ward 3 kids. Even a DC private school parent know how the DC school zoning and lottery system works and certainly knows that Wilson HS draws from across the city. But alas, they seem to want to make a point by invoking wokeness for 'poor' kid. So go ahead, publicly support your densification projects. I will see you at the meetings and look forward to this exchange IRL.

Most of the Ward 3 elementary schools are virtually impossible to get into from out of bounds, but go on.

Ding ding ding...you have now outed yourself as not even being from DC. You are density bro 'Astro Turf'.

How is this outing them? My kid’s PK4 class has one student in it that doesn’t have sibling preference, much less being out of bounds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The amazing thing is that the Astro Turfer that PP identified, did not even say anything and still outed themselves out as not being from DC. Classic form of arguing and not saying anything either. The 'go on' comment when you have nothing to say, cannot back your argument up, but hope that people will assume your disdain is some sort of knowledge.

So for the rest of the astro turfers on the thread, here is a little DCPS gouge, which you could have found had you ventured off of your Density Bros threads and into the even more exciting public school threads in this same forum.

Wilson HS has not 'accepted' out of bounds students, as a general policy, since the 2012-2013 ac year. However, its feeder school system comprises every zip code in the district guaranteeing it capacity classes without the need for participation in the lottery. Beyond that, its feeder schools do participate in the lottery and DC has a rule allowing a student to continue in his/her feeder school pipeline once accepted to that school.

So if you were to plot on a map where students from Woodrow Wilson HS, Alice Deal MS and Hardy MS, you would see that they are drawing from across the city from their individual feeder schools.

And to bring this full circle, this is one of the problems that has been identified with the cities return to business responding from COVID. These student need to get to school from across the city and many take public transportation which is appearing to be one of the least safe ways to travel in the time of COVID. We are not sure if we want to put a bunch of young kids (vectors) on the subways and busses from across the city twice a day every day. More work will need to be done to determine exactly what role children play in transferring the virus even if they do not potentially get sick from the virus. Right now the Ward 3 vs Ward 8 COVID disparity is startling.

Speaking as a high-risk Ward 3 resident (with elementary school kids, not HS, but still) I do not want the city to try to prevent kids from other neighborhoods going to school here once schools reopen out of some attempt to protect us. Which seems to be what you’re suggesting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The amazing thing is that the Astro Turfer that PP identified, did not even say anything and still outed themselves out as not being from DC. Classic form of arguing and not saying anything either. The 'go on' comment when you have nothing to say, cannot back your argument up, but hope that people will assume your disdain is some sort of knowledge.

So for the rest of the astro turfers on the thread, here is a little DCPS gouge, which you could have found had you ventured off of your Density Bros threads and into the even more exciting public school threads in this same forum.

Wilson HS has not 'accepted' out of bounds students, as a general policy, since the 2012-2013 ac year. However, its feeder school system comprises every zip code in the district guaranteeing it capacity classes without the need for participation in the lottery. Beyond that, its feeder schools do participate in the lottery and DC has a rule allowing a student to continue in his/her feeder school pipeline once accepted to that school.

So if you were to plot on a map where students from Woodrow Wilson HS, Alice Deal MS and Hardy MS, you would see that they are drawing from across the city from their individual feeder schools.

And to bring this full circle, this is one of the problems that has been identified with the cities return to business responding from COVID. These student need to get to school from across the city and many take public transportation which is appearing to be one of the least safe ways to travel in the time of COVID. We are not sure if we want to put a bunch of young kids (vectors) on the subways and busses from across the city twice a day every day. More work will need to be done to determine exactly what role children play in transferring the virus even if they do not potentially get sick from the virus. Right now the Ward 3 vs Ward 8 COVID disparity is startling.

Speaking as a high-risk Ward 3 resident (with elementary school kids, not HS, but still) I do not want the city to try to prevent kids from other neighborhoods going to school here once schools reopen out of some attempt to protect us. Which seems to be what you’re suggesting?

I'm a different poster, but have an inside view on education--but actually PP is on to something. Before schools can re-open , they are going to have to look closely at the all of it. Maybe a mix of live/virtual--where your kids goes on odd even days by house number. Looking at transport. Temperatures at door. Classrooms are not big/hygeinic enough for recommended social distancing. At all. A lot is going to change until/unless effective treatments or vaccines come on line. Public transport will certainly be a part of the conversation.
And let's look to Asia for self-cleaning and anti-viral technology for high touch surfaces--is ANY of that expected of developers in the Mayor's density plan? It should be in place for ANY new construction. It's a pity the 8 new shelters are already up; they should certainly be retro-fitted.

[Anonymous]

Speaking as a high-risk Ward 3 resident (with elementary school kids, not HS, but still) I do not want the city to try to prevent kids from other neighborhoods going to school here once schools reopen out of some attempt to protect us. Which seems to be what you’re suggesting?

Ok, I am the PP that mentioned the AstroTurf not understanding Wilson out of bounds and then mentioned cross town transportation. Those issues were presented as two separate issues. I brought the cross town transportation in as this is a thread about COVID and density and not primarily a thread about school crowding or out of bounds schooling opportunities (there are hundreds of those on other threads though if you are interested.)

I am certainly not suggesting that a kid who is enrolled in a school not be allowed to attend because they take public transportation. I am suggesting that there is presumably work being put in right now by DCPS and DC Health to figure out the mechanism of reopening school safely in the fall.

Please do not infer things that were never said in a post.