Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

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Anonymous wrote:Of course Trump and his campaign staff broke rules, and social norms to politicize Arlington national cemetery. They are the worst of us.

But it’s deeply depressing to see families of our fallen soldiers encourage and defend the behavior for political purposes.
It’s really sad.


Do you think their children being killed is sad?

How sad do you think these families are?

How sad do you think these Marines felt as they were blown apart and lay dying Afghanistan?

Democrats are more concerned about Trump visiting the resting places of the Fallen than what happened to cause these Marines to fall. Democrats are the political animals.

They will disrespect these Gold Star families while attacking Trump for attacking Gold Star Families.


I would think my child being killed would be extremely sad.
I’d be too sad to try and score political points for my team.
But these guys go hard for the cult. The cult really does demand everything of them. It requires them to desecrate their own child’s grave and they do it gladly.
It’s really sad.


You have no clue what these families have experienced. How is a ceremony honoring the Fallen and Trump being invited by the families to participate in the ceremony desecration of the Fallen’s graves? Are these parents just supposed to pretend their children are sleeping and not talk about them anymore? Trump shows up because Biden won’t even say our dead Service Member’s names. Their dead children; their Commander in Chief won’t even say their names.


Trump showed up to film a commercial.


Link to commercial?


Hi “link to commercial” poster. Here you go.
https://www.tiktok.com/@realdonaldtrump/video/7407571442088430878


“We didn’t lose one person in 18 months. And then they took over that disaster.”


And that’s what happened?

Trump didn’t mention the election, his campaign, voting for him, etc.

The ceremony took place on the 3rd anniversary of the bombing. It wasn’t set up just so Trump could show up in Arlington.

Trump said zero about the upcoming election.


Did he show up last year? The year before? Is there a Presidential race going on this year?
Anonymous
My uncle (retired Marine) and aunt are buried in section 60. HBO did a documentary on ANC during the Iraq war and was filming a young wife whose husband died and buried about 200 yards from my Uncle at the time. The camera filmed my aunt from a distance as she visited his grave kneeling above the tombstone in a private moment. After she left the young woman and her friend went over to inspect the grave and there was my uncles tombstone. HBO never got my aunts permission to film her in a private moment at her husbands grave. When I showed her the video, she shrugged it off saying it was no big deal.

If only todays politicians would do the same....
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Anonymous wrote:Trump showed up to honor these fallen American soldiers killed in the Biden-Harris regime’s disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal. You know who wasn’t there? Either Biden or Harris, because they don’t care about these young Americans that were killed.


Showing up is fine. Showing up is helping these families. Don't make political ads in this section.


He didn’t make a political ad. It was a tik tok showing the wreath laying and his interaction with the families.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump showed up to honor these fallen American soldiers killed in the Biden-Harris regime’s disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal. You know who wasn’t there? Either Biden or Harris, because they don’t care about these young Americans that were killed.


Sure. 👍


The ceremony took place on the 3rd anniversary of the Abbey Gate bombing.

It honored the Fallen. Trump was invited and didn’t talk about the election or ask anyone to vote for him.



The ad. The political ad.
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Anonymous wrote:Trump showed up to honor these fallen American soldiers killed in the Biden-Harris regime’s disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal. You know who wasn’t there? Either Biden or Harris, because they don’t care about these young Americans that were killed.


Showing up is fine. Showing up is helping these families. Don't make political ads in this section.


He didn’t make a political ad. It was a tik tok showing the wreath laying and his interaction with the families.



Huh? It is released by his campaign.
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Anonymous wrote:Nothing to see here people... Trump is a menace!



Are you seriously comparing stock footage to this?
Seriously?


Stock photos of graves at Arlington?

There are no stock photos of graves in Arlington.


Get bent you liar https://www.shutterstock.com/search/arlington-cemetery


What? Anyone can just choose from thousands of photos of graves of fallen in Arlington? And use them for anything they want?

I thought using photos of Arlington was against the law?

WHO TOOK THESE PHOTOS?

Do the families know about these photos?

Have the families given explicit permission of the use of their loved ones graves?

It’s against the law to take pictures in Arlington!! Who is taking all these pictures and putting them online?


Are the rules different in different parts of the cemetery? There has been a lot of discussion about section 60 having very strict rules. Do other areas have different rules?


Yes. Have you not actually read any of the dozens of articles that have been published about this?


I have heard a lot about the strict rules in section 60. I don't hear much about the rules in other areas.


Link to rules about Section 60?


Ask the Trump campaign. They were given the rules in advance of their visit.


Link to the rules?


It’s federal law. You can’t campaign in ANC. They give you handout about it. From an npr article:

A handout for visitors on “Rules Governing Conduct” for Arlington National Cemetery clearly prohibits “political campaign or election-related activities within the cemeteries.” In a statement to NPR on Wednesday about the incident, the cemetery stressed that: “Federal law prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries, to include photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes, or in direct support of a partisan political candidate’s campaign.”


Trump’s tik tok said nothing about the election.


Who is the "they" in their commercial then?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump showed up to honor these fallen American soldiers killed in the Biden-Harris regime’s disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal. You know who wasn’t there? Either Biden or Harris, because they don’t care about these young Americans that were killed.


Sure. 👍


+1. This is the only way to respond to MAGA at this point. Stop trying to engage with their circular attempts at "logic". Same way VP shut down "turning black" during the cnn interview.

It's time to just nod politely and move on. They have about two months left of relevance
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump showed up to honor these fallen American soldiers killed in the Biden-Harris regime’s disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal. You know who wasn’t there? Either Biden or Harris, because they don’t care about these young Americans that were killed.


The families I saw interviewed were trump supporters. They wanted trump there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This thread has made me more convinced than ever that everyone should have to serve in the military or the government for a couple years. I can’t believe how ignorant so many Americans are about the rules feds have to follow.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of course Trump and his campaign staff broke rules, and social norms to politicize Arlington national cemetery. They are the worst of us.

But it’s deeply depressing to see families of our fallen soldiers encourage and defend the behavior for political purposes.
It’s really sad.


Do you think their children being killed is sad?

How sad do you think these families are?

How sad do you think these Marines felt as they were blown apart and lay dying Afghanistan?

Democrats are more concerned about Trump visiting the resting places of the Fallen than what happened to cause these Marines to fall. Democrats are the political animals.

They will disrespect these Gold Star families while attacking Trump for attacking Gold Star Families.


I would think my child being killed would be extremely sad.
I’d be too sad to try and score political points for my team.
But these guys go hard for the cult. The cult really does demand everything of them. It requires them to desecrate their own child’s grave and they do it gladly.
It’s really sad.


You have no clue what these families have experienced. How is a ceremony honoring the Fallen and Trump being invited by the families to participate in the ceremony desecration of the Fallen’s graves? Are these parents just supposed to pretend their children are sleeping and not talk about them anymore? Trump shows up because Biden won’t even say our dead Service Member’s names. Their dead children; their Commander in Chief won’t even say their names.


Trump showed up to film a commercial.


Link to commercial?


Hi “link to commercial” poster. Here you go.
https://www.tiktok.com/@realdonaldtrump/video/7407571442088430878


“We didn’t lose one person in 18 months. And then they took over that disaster.”


And that’s what happened?

Trump didn’t mention the election, his campaign, voting for him, etc.

The ceremony took place on the 3rd anniversary of the bombing. It wasn’t set up just so Trump could show up in Arlington.

Trump said zero about the upcoming election.


Did he show up last year? The year before? Is there a Presidential race going on this year?


So Trump should have told the Abbey Gate families to piss off, like Biden and Harris have?

If Trump had actually made a campaign ad out of the footage he would be wrong. But he didn’t. he accepted the invitation from the families, laid a wreath at THEIR request, and spent time with them. On the actual 3rd anniversary of the bombing and deaths of their loved ones.

I don’t know if the Abbey Gate families have held a ceremony at Arlington before. This might be the first year they could mentally have come to terms with the deaths of their children and arranged a ceremony. It takes time to mourn and grieve and accept the sudden, violent death of your child.

I am sure you have a great criticism of these families waiting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump showed up to honor these fallen American soldiers killed in the Biden-Harris regime’s disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal. You know who wasn’t there? Either Biden or Harris, because they don’t care about these young Americans that were killed.


You can keep posting this lie and pretending like you don’t understand and trying to deflect with your whatsboutism and false equivalencies.

It doesn’t change the fact that Trump broke the rules and acted dishonorably.

Patriotic Americans and really any American who even dimly respects our service members recognizes trump’s denigration of Arlington National Cemetery viscerally.

Your faux obtuseness cannot change that. Trump was wrong and just because he’s a psychopath doesn’t mean his behavior should be normalized.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump showed up to honor these fallen American soldiers killed in the Biden-Harris regime’s disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal. You know who wasn’t there? Either Biden or Harris, because they don’t care about these young Americans that were killed.


The families I saw interviewed were trump supporters. They wanted trump there.


Neither Biden nor Harris will say their children’s names.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump showed up to honor these fallen American soldiers killed in the Biden-Harris regime’s disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal. You know who wasn’t there? Either Biden or Harris, because they don’t care about these young Americans that were killed.


You can keep posting this lie and pretending like you don’t understand and trying to deflect with your whatsboutism and false equivalencies.

It doesn’t change the fact that Trump broke the rules and acted dishonorably.

Patriotic Americans and really any American who even dimly respects our service members recognizes trump’s denigration of Arlington National Cemetery viscerally.

Your faux obtuseness cannot change that. Trump was wrong and just because he’s a psychopath doesn’t mean his behavior should be normalized.


The Gold Star families posted in this thread absolutely disagree with you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of course Trump and his campaign staff broke rules, and social norms to politicize Arlington national cemetery. They are the worst of us.

But it’s deeply depressing to see families of our fallen soldiers encourage and defend the behavior for political purposes.
It’s really sad.


Do you think their children being killed is sad?

How sad do you think these families are?

How sad do you think these Marines felt as they were blown apart and lay dying Afghanistan?

Democrats are more concerned about Trump visiting the resting places of the Fallen than what happened to cause these Marines to fall. Democrats are the political animals.

They will disrespect these Gold Star families while attacking Trump for attacking Gold Star Families.


I would think my child being killed would be extremely sad.
I’d be too sad to try and score political points for my team.
But these guys go hard for the cult. The cult really does demand everything of them. It requires them to desecrate their own child’s grave and they do it gladly.
It’s really sad.


You have no clue what these families have experienced. How is a ceremony honoring the Fallen and Trump being invited by the families to participate in the ceremony desecration of the Fallen’s graves? Are these parents just supposed to pretend their children are sleeping and not talk about them anymore? Trump shows up because Biden won’t even say our dead Service Member’s names. Their dead children; their Commander in Chief won’t even say their names.


Trump showed up to film a commercial.


Link to commercial?


Hi “link to commercial” poster. Here you go.
https://www.tiktok.com/@realdonaldtrump/video/7407571442088430878


“We didn’t lose one person in 18 months. And then they took over that disaster.”


And that’s what happened?

Trump didn’t mention the election, his campaign, voting for him, etc.

The ceremony took place on the 3rd anniversary of the bombing. It wasn’t set up just so Trump could show up in Arlington.

Trump said zero about the upcoming election.


Did he show up last year? The year before? Is there a Presidential race going on this year?


So Trump should have told the Abbey Gate families to piss off, like Biden and Harris have?

If Trump had actually made a campaign ad out of the footage he would be wrong. But he didn’t. he accepted the invitation from the families, laid a wreath at THEIR request, and spent time with them. On the actual 3rd anniversary of the bombing and deaths of their loved ones.

I don’t know if the Abbey Gate families have held a ceremony at Arlington before. This might be the first year they could mentally have come to terms with the deaths of their children and arranged a ceremony. It takes time to mourn and grieve and accept the sudden, violent death of your child.

I am sure you have a great criticism of these families waiting.


So you're just making things up now? At least you're on-brand.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of course Trump and his campaign staff broke rules, and social norms to politicize Arlington national cemetery. They are the worst of us.

But it’s deeply depressing to see families of our fallen soldiers encourage and defend the behavior for political purposes.
It’s really sad.


Do you think their children being killed is sad?

How sad do you think these families are?

How sad do you think these Marines felt as they were blown apart and lay dying Afghanistan?

Democrats are more concerned about Trump visiting the resting places of the Fallen than what happened to cause these Marines to fall. Democrats are the political animals.

They will disrespect these Gold Star families while attacking Trump for attacking Gold Star Families.


I would think my child being killed would be extremely sad.
I’d be too sad to try and score political points for my team.
But these guys go hard for the cult. The cult really does demand everything of them. It requires them to desecrate their own child’s grave and they do it gladly.
It’s really sad.


You have no clue what these families have experienced. How is a ceremony honoring the Fallen and Trump being invited by the families to participate in the ceremony desecration of the Fallen’s graves? Are these parents just supposed to pretend their children are sleeping and not talk about them anymore? Trump shows up because Biden won’t even say our dead Service Member’s names. Their dead children; their Commander in Chief won’t even say their names.


Trump showed up to film a commercial.


Link to commercial?


Hi “link to commercial” poster. Here you go.
https://www.tiktok.com/@realdonaldtrump/video/7407571442088430878


“We didn’t lose one person in 18 months. And then they took over that disaster.”


And that’s what happened?

Trump didn’t mention the election, his campaign, voting for him, etc.

The ceremony took place on the 3rd anniversary of the bombing. It wasn’t set up just so Trump could show up in Arlington.

Trump said zero about the upcoming election.


Did he show up last year? The year before? Is there a Presidential race going on this year?


So Trump should have told the Abbey Gate families to piss off, like Biden and Harris have?

If Trump had actually made a campaign ad out of the footage he would be wrong. But he didn’t. he accepted the invitation from the families, laid a wreath at THEIR request, and spent time with them. On the actual 3rd anniversary of the bombing and deaths of their loved ones.

I don’t know if the Abbey Gate families have held a ceremony at Arlington before. This might be the first year they could mentally have come to terms with the deaths of their children and arranged a ceremony. It takes time to mourn and grieve and accept the sudden, violent death of your child.

I am sure you have a great criticism of these families waiting.

They desecrated the graves and memories of their children in service of a conman.
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