Study: "Discussions of D.C. public school options in an online forum" (yes, this one)

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Anonymous wrote:So basically, the two schools that prove the point of the research are Banneker and CMI. If you can't explain those, you must agree that white people are causing school segregation due to racism.

Where is a good analysis of these two schools, then? I do think that being in an under 5% minority at any school is going to turn a parent off, for better or worse. That rules out Banneker. Beyond that, CMI has been discussed on here ad nauseum, and I think that it has to do with education model and perhaps its facilities.

The real trend of parents of means (of all races) away from DCPS and toward a few select charters (outside UNW) is more interesting to analyze and would require a much better research plan.

The Waltons won’t fund research studying that question.

Because their goal is to help charters and harm DCPS (so rich people can profit.)

This is how Brookings taking money from anti-public-school people is distorting.

The Waltons will fund a study that divides DCPS based on race. They won’t fund studies that are likely to reflect poorly on charters.

Former CMI parent - I agree so much. None of the white parents who went there would admit it (so liberal), but many had good (if not better) IB schools, but because of the % of white kids, chose CMI.

Isn’t “better” kid-dependent? CMI and DCPS are different approaches.

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Anonymous wrote:It was a kind of fascinating read, partly because it did feel like they processed a lot but there were fundamentals they didn’t understand.

Probably because the authors of the study are children themselves. Not experienced educators, not experienced parents of kids in elementary or older, just some self-satisfied silly kids recording and listening in on informal anonymous conversations for nice big bucks from a prestigious think tank. Embarrassing for all involved.

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Anonymous wrote:It was a kind of fascinating read, partly because it did feel like they processed a lot but there were fundamentals they didn’t understand.

Probably because the authors of the study are children themselves. Not experienced educators, not experienced parents of kids in elementary or older, just some self-satisfied silly kids recording and listening in on informal anonymous conversations for nice big bucks from a prestigious think tank. Embarrassing for all involved.

yeah, no self-satisfied silly kids here!

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And now other articles are citing this dumb thing:
https://www.the74million.org/article/white-parents-horrified-by-george-floyd-video-still-go-to-great-lengths-to-keep-their-children-in-segregated-schools/?fbclid=IwAR0VGRcKzLny1kLmNBnAZa7oUsvS_hY2-1oKgrPsDOwUMvikw_1cd9YVJ_k

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Anonymous wrote:I think the point is that white parents should be seen and not heard. If you are WOTP, give up your IB preference and go EOTP to a DCPS. Don't join the PTA, but write large checks. Mouths shut, wallets open.

If you are EOTP, go to your IB. No charters. Mouths shut, wallets open.

Charters should for BIPOC children only.
Language immersion for BIPOC only.
TAG programming for BIPOC only.

Celebrate BIPOC excellence.
Acknowledge white mediocrity.
Coach your children to accept their own mediocrity and acknowledge BIPOC excellence.

If you play the lottery, you are a racist and segregationist.

If you go to school OOB to go to school WOTP, you are a racist and a segregationist.

If you allow your child to go to an IB WOTP school, and your child is white, you are a racist and a segregationist.

If you go private, you are a racist and a segregationist.

If you move to MoCo or NoVa, obvi racist and segregationist.

If you go to a majority BIPOC school. and advocate for TAG, immersion, special programming - you are a racist and a segregationist.

If you go to a majority BIPOC school and do not adhere to "mouths shut, wallets open" you are a racist and segregationist.

If you encourage others to attend high-performing schools dominated by BIPOC children, you are resource hoarding, because you are racist.

If you use the phrase "hidden gems," you are racist and encourage resource hoarding.

If any of this seems unfair - your white fragility is a fatal condition.

Everything you do is racist.

I'm an AfAm mom of a Pre-K bi-racial kid and I'm not sending my DS to DCPS schools going forward.
What we got a taste of with virtual learning from our so-okay IB school turned me off. The more I learned and researched what DCPS has to offer middle class POC boys the more pissed off I got. The reading scores and the math scores for POC boys is horrifying. It doesn't matter if Nice White Parents (a podcast I've hate-listened to along with the Integrated Schools podcast) show up or don't show up to our IB the responsibility of the suckitude of the school falls on DCPS.

And "Resource Hoarding" is utter BS. Apparently failure to handicap your kids, like DCPS is handicapping Black boys, is resource hoarding.

A comment and a question (as always I’m assuming you’re a real parent and not one of the conservative trolls that come here to divide us.)

First, virtual PreK has been a total joke for everyone. Give in person K a shot before you throw DCPS out. That said I agree DCPS Central really does not do a good job.

Question: when you say “DCPS handicaps Black boys”, what do you mean? That they don’t care about creating and supporting top schools?

Yes, I have a real live brown boy whose hobby is finding mommy's buttons and her last nerve. I'm so thankful my DH has more patience for virtual learning, because I was already wistfully looking at AfAm mom homeschooling vlogs and websites. I'm done. We eventually found a daycare that did PreK and sent him there. We are more happier and sane.

I can't remember the exact quote but I saw a video of Malcolm X speaking and he said something along the lines that system turns Black people off from education, probably as a way to keep them ignorant. Now how DCPS plays a part is in the abysmal ELA PARCC scores of black boys (girls do better). When we were looking for schools for the lottery (our IB school was *shrug* okay but I wanted to see if we could do better) I took particular interest in 3rd grade scores for Black boys (even though he's bi-racial). The scores for the nearby schools or schools along our commutes were either unimpressive or klaxon blaring bad.

Why scores matter to me? They aren't the best metric, but they are an available metric. And I'm not going to do the 'if you just went and visited the school' gaslighting tour. And my DS is sensitive to peer pressure, positive and negative. If the other boys around him aren't excelling, he's gonna catch the stupid.

Lastly, on handicapping. My dad barely graduated high school is is barely literate. Thank God Almighty for the Army where he learned a skill and was able to take that skill and start a business. But I saw how having poor reading and math skills could keep you back, even when you are your own boss. Somehow I feel real Black Empowerment hasn't been tried yet (like socialism) because we Black people as a group have too many members can't read well or do complicated math and DCPS isn't treating the problem like it's a house on fire. The schools that have the worst scores, they just throw money at and it doesn't make things better. Several schools with lousy scores got expensive brand new buildings, but the scores still suck. DCPS doesn't care about real results.

Cosigning, because that's some real shit you wrote.