FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

Wonder if the sixth graders in middle school is a red herring to distract. It sounds ridiculous to do this.

My sixth graders belonged in elementary school.

Has she thought about teacher certifications? Not every elementary teacher is cerrtified through 8th grade. Where are they going to get teachers?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Before any discussion of changing boundaries, the SB needs to eliminate ALL AAP centers and just ensure every school has AAP classes. The skewing and confusion of borders is due in large part to the absurd busing of certain students to center schools. At this point, the center model is redundant and wasteful and needs to end.

Boundaries should only be addressed if there is a need to do so AFTER all kids are back in their community schools.

Agreed. At the next BRAC meeting, they are reviewing a scenario of everyone returning to their zoned school. So many of these inflated schools are influenced by those they allow attend from other zone, and often those over-achievers looking for more!

Bring students back to their home zones, offer fair and enticing programming within all pyramids and then assess capacity issues. See how testing and scores level out before their next equity brigade.

Was not aware this option was being considered (returning everyone to their zoned school). I think this is what many of us wanted as a start point for this whole review process, very pleased it's being presented to the BRAC.

There are now just 2 options under consideration, but that might change again.

Option #1

Return everyone to their base school


Option #2

Move 6th grade from elementary school to middle school, which will require extensive rezoning in every neighborhood and school, including converting some elementary schools to middle schools and moving 6th graders as young as 10 years old into the secondary schools with students as old as 21.

Most of the oldest students will be 18/19 or younger, but if they are severely special needs or a recent migrant, they can attend high school until they are 21, as long as they are 20 years old the first day of school.

The significant expense of Option #2 was not accounted for in the most recent CIP, but it is now Dr. Reid's #1 priority by her own words at multiple community meetings, so logic and expense be damned.

If I were a Robinson, SoCo, or Lake Braddock zoned parent of elementary kids, I would be raising holy hell with my school board reps about this, before they finalize the move.

The 21 year old migrant and special needs high school students are federal law. I would also be raising hell with Tim Kaine, Connolly and Mark Warner about the 21 year old migrant men being allowed to attend traditional high school. The special needs students makes sense, but perfectly capable adult men allowed to be students in high schools and secondary schools does not.

If they are old enough to be charged with statuatory rape if they date anyone in their high school class, then they do not belong in traditional high school, especially if FCPS is moving 10 and 11 year old 6th graders into the building and school busses.

Option #2 is “nuclear”, per previous FCPS words. Totally understand and agree that 6-8 is very common throughout the country but FCPS facilities has not, nor is, built to support this. The fact Reid is even considering this shows she doesn’t understand the county’s limitations.

How would an elementary school become a middle school? If it were, it would be 6th grade only and all the reasons Reid gave for moving 6th graders are moot anyway. THe gyms are too small, the math teachers wouldn’t be able to talk to other math teachers. And you take away walk zones.

I think this is a a negotiation tactic. Get everyone riled up so when the real maps are revealed, it is less disruptive and everyone says ok.

THe impracticality of it is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Before any discussion of changing boundaries, the SB needs to eliminate ALL AAP centers and just ensure every school has AAP classes. The skewing and confusion of borders is due in large part to the absurd busing of certain students to center schools. At this point, the center model is redundant and wasteful and needs to end.

Boundaries should only be addressed if there is a need to do so AFTER all kids are back in their community schools.

Agreed. At the next BRAC meeting, they are reviewing a scenario of everyone returning to their zoned school. So many of these inflated schools are influenced by those they allow attend from other zone, and often those over-achievers looking for more!

Bring students back to their home zones, offer fair and enticing programming within all pyramids and then assess capacity issues. See how testing and scores level out before their next equity brigade.

Was not aware this option was being considered (returning everyone to their zoned school). I think this is what many of us wanted as a start point for this whole review process, very pleased it's being presented to the BRAC.

There are now just 2 options under consideration, but that might change again.

Option #1

Return everyone to their base school


Option #2

Move 6th grade from elementary school to middle school, which will require extensive rezoning in every neighborhood and school, including converting some elementary schools to middle schools and moving 6th graders as young as 10 years old into the secondary schools with students as old as 21.

Most of the oldest students will be 18/19 or younger, but if they are severely special needs or a recent migrant, they can attend high school until they are 21, as long as they are 20 years old the first day of school.

The significant expense of Option #2 was not accounted for in the most recent CIP, but it is now Dr. Reid's #1 priority by her own words at multiple community meetings, so logic and expense be damned.

If I were a Robinson, SoCo, or Lake Braddock zoned parent of elementary kids, I would be raising holy hell with my school board reps about this, before they finalize the move.

The 21 year old migrant and special needs high school students are federal law. I would also be raising hell with Tim Kaine, Connolly and Mark Warner about the 21 year old migrant men being allowed to attend traditional high school. The special needs students makes sense, but perfectly capable adult men allowed to be students in high schools and secondary schools does not.

If they are old enough to be charged with statuatory rape if they date anyone in their high school class, then they do not belong in traditional high school, especially if FCPS is moving 10 and 11 year old 6th graders into the building and school busses.

Option #2 is “nuclear”, per previous FCPS words. Totally understand and agree that 6-8 is very common throughout the country but FCPS facilities has not, nor is, built to support this. The fact Reid is even considering this shows she doesn’t understand the county’s limitations.

How would an elementary school become a middle school? If it were, it would be 6th grade only and all the reasons Reid gave for moving 6th graders are moot anyway. THe gyms are too small, the math teachers wouldn’t be able to talk to other math teachers. And you take away walk zones.

I think this is a a negotiation tactic. Get everyone riled up so when the real maps are revealed, it is less disruptive and everyone says ok.

THe impracticality of it is ridiculous.

6th -8th grade middle schools are the norm in many school district, and is the case in many local jurisdiction.

I would like to see more secondary schools. Shrink the boundaries and eliminate middle schools entirely. HS should be 7th - 12th. The 21yr old student is a silly argument. Most 21yr olds will be out earning a living in the trades/construction regardless of educational attainment.

The middle schools can be repurposed as HS too, but with much smaller boundaries.

The they are going to rape my daughter is so offensive on so many levels. It’s very Trumpian actually. Fear and hate are corrosive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Before any discussion of changing boundaries, the SB needs to eliminate ALL AAP centers and just ensure every school has AAP classes. The skewing and confusion of borders is due in large part to the absurd busing of certain students to center schools. At this point, the center model is redundant and wasteful and needs to end.

Boundaries should only be addressed if there is a need to do so AFTER all kids are back in their community schools.

Agreed. At the next BRAC meeting, they are reviewing a scenario of everyone returning to their zoned school. So many of these inflated schools are influenced by those they allow attend from other zone, and often those over-achievers looking for more!

Bring students back to their home zones, offer fair and enticing programming within all pyramids and then assess capacity issues. See how testing and scores level out before their next equity brigade.

Was not aware this option was being considered (returning everyone to their zoned school). I think this is what many of us wanted as a start point for this whole review process, very pleased it's being presented to the BRAC.

There are now just 2 options under consideration, but that might change again.

Option #1

Return everyone to their base school


Option #2

Move 6th grade from elementary school to middle school, which will require extensive rezoning in every neighborhood and school, including converting some elementary schools to middle schools and moving 6th graders as young as 10 years old into the secondary schools with students as old as 21.

Most of the oldest students will be 18/19 or younger, but if they are severely special needs or a recent migrant, they can attend high school until they are 21, as long as they are 20 years old the first day of school.

The significant expense of Option #2 was not accounted for in the most recent CIP, but it is now Dr. Reid's #1 priority by her own words at multiple community meetings, so logic and expense be damned.

If I were a Robinson, SoCo, or Lake Braddock zoned parent of elementary kids, I would be raising holy hell with my school board reps about this, before they finalize the move.

The 21 year old migrant and special needs high school students are federal law. I would also be raising hell with Tim Kaine, Connolly and Mark Warner about the 21 year old migrant men being allowed to attend traditional high school. The special needs students makes sense, but perfectly capable adult men allowed to be students in high schools and secondary schools does not.

If they are old enough to be charged with statuatory rape if they date anyone in their high school class, then they do not belong in traditional high school, especially if FCPS is moving 10 and 11 year old 6th graders into the building and school busses.

Option #2 is “nuclear”, per previous FCPS words. Totally understand and agree that 6-8 is very common throughout the country but FCPS facilities has not, nor is, built to support this. The fact Reid is even considering this shows she doesn’t understand the county’s limitations.

How would an elementary school become a middle school? If it were, it would be 6th grade only and all the reasons Reid gave for moving 6th graders are moot anyway. THe gyms are too small, the math teachers wouldn’t be able to talk to other math teachers. And you take away walk zones.

I think this is a a negotiation tactic. Get everyone riled up so when the real maps are revealed, it is less disruptive and everyone says ok.

THe impracticality of it is ridiculous.

From how I understand it, some larger elementary schools (~1000 seat capacity) would be converted to 6-8 middle schools. That way many pyramids would be fed by two middle schools. This seems impossible to accomplish in 2 years because these schools would have to be renovated to bring them up to middle school standards (larger gym, auditorium, athletic fields…)

I’m not sure how this model would apply to secondary schools, unless they had a collocated elementary school to convert as a satellite campus. Robinson and Hayfield have this, but Lake Braddock does not. The other option is to shrink their boundaries and offload one or two elementary schools to neighboring pyramids. They could also potentially convert some under-enrolled high schools to secondary schools to open up middle school space, but unfortunately that only really works for Mount Vernon.

This rushed scenario seems like such a disaster, I’m fascinated to see how they think they can do it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Before any discussion of changing boundaries, the SB needs to eliminate ALL AAP centers and just ensure every school has AAP classes. The skewing and confusion of borders is due in large part to the absurd busing of certain students to center schools. At this point, the center model is redundant and wasteful and needs to end.

Boundaries should only be addressed if there is a need to do so AFTER all kids are back in their community schools.

Agreed. At the next BRAC meeting, they are reviewing a scenario of everyone returning to their zoned school. So many of these inflated schools are influenced by those they allow attend from other zone, and often those over-achievers looking for more!

Bring students back to their home zones, offer fair and enticing programming within all pyramids and then assess capacity issues. See how testing and scores level out before their next equity brigade.

Was not aware this option was being considered (returning everyone to their zoned school). I think this is what many of us wanted as a start point for this whole review process, very pleased it's being presented to the BRAC.

There are now just 2 options under consideration, but that might change again.

Option #1

Return everyone to their base school


Option #2

Move 6th grade from elementary school to middle school, which will require extensive rezoning in every neighborhood and school, including converting some elementary schools to middle schools and moving 6th graders as young as 10 years old into the secondary schools with students as old as 21.

Most of the oldest students will be 18/19 or younger, but if they are severely special needs or a recent migrant, they can attend high school until they are 21, as long as they are 20 years old the first day of school.

The significant expense of Option #2 was not accounted for in the most recent CIP, but it is now Dr. Reid's #1 priority by her own words at multiple community meetings, so logic and expense be damned.

If I were a Robinson, SoCo, or Lake Braddock zoned parent of elementary kids, I would be raising holy hell with my school board reps about this, before they finalize the move.

The 21 year old migrant and special needs high school students are federal law. I would also be raising hell with Tim Kaine, Connolly and Mark Warner about the 21 year old migrant men being allowed to attend traditional high school. The special needs students makes sense, but perfectly capable adult men allowed to be students in high schools and secondary schools does not.

If they are old enough to be charged with statuatory rape if they date anyone in their high school class, then they do not belong in traditional high school, especially if FCPS is moving 10 and 11 year old 6th graders into the building and school busses.

Option #2 is “nuclear”, per previous FCPS words. Totally understand and agree that 6-8 is very common throughout the country but FCPS facilities has not, nor is, built to support this. The fact Reid is even considering this shows she doesn’t understand the county’s limitations.

How would an elementary school become a middle school? If it were, it would be 6th grade only and all the reasons Reid gave for moving 6th graders are moot anyway. THe gyms are too small, the math teachers wouldn’t be able to talk to other math teachers. And you take away walk zones.

I think this is a a negotiation tactic. Get everyone riled up so when the real maps are revealed, it is less disruptive and everyone says ok.

THe impracticality of it is ridiculous.

From how I understand it, some larger elementary schools (~1000 seat capacity) would be converted to 6-8 middle schools. That way many pyramids would be fed by two middle schools. This seems impossible to accomplish in 2 years because these schools would have to be renovated to bring them up to middle school standards (larger gym, auditorium, athletic fields…)

I’m not sure how this model would apply to secondary schools, unless they had a collocated elementary school to convert as a satellite campus. Robinson and Hayfield have this, but Lake Braddock does not. The other option is to shrink their boundaries and offload one or two elementary schools to neighboring pyramids. They could also potentially convert some under-enrolled high schools to secondary schools to open up middle school space, but unfortunately that only really works for Mount Vernon.

This rushed scenario seems like such a disaster, I’m fascinated to see how they think they can do it.

This just fits with one of the primary 8130 goals of creating as many split feeders as they can.

[Anonymous]

There are now just 2 options under consideration, but that might change again.

Option #1

Return everyone to their base school

What does this mean?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are now just 2 options under consideration, but that might change again.

Option #1

Return everyone to their base school

What does this mean?

Eliminate AAP centers and close AP/IB/language transfers.

[Anonymous]

I read somewhere in the old boundary forum that "Fairhill ES will also be moved into Fairfax" but I can't find the history on this. Is this one of the suggestion on the boundary study? Thx.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are now just 2 options under consideration, but that might change again.

Option #1

Return everyone to their base school

What does this mean?

Eliminate AAP centers and close AP/IB/language transfers.

Then I vote for this, adding eliminating IB in favor of AP and doing a one-time residency check, followed by checking residency for every school change (i.e. when you go to middle school and when you go to high school) just like you prove residency when starting kindergarten or whenever you join an elementary school.

Then, maybe, they can look at whether some of those bigger elementary schools that have been housing AAP centers could house a 6-8 middle school.

There is no need for AAP centers for 7-8 graders.

[Anonymous]

Impossible to complete in 2 years? It’s actually only 1! Crazy this is all for fall 2026!!

[Anonymous]

With alll the insane crap going on in our country and a looming great depression 2---mvoing forward with this seems really crazy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Before any discussion of changing boundaries, the SB needs to eliminate ALL AAP centers and just ensure every school has AAP classes. The skewing and confusion of borders is due in large part to the absurd busing of certain students to center schools. At this point, the center model is redundant and wasteful and needs to end.

Boundaries should only be addressed if there is a need to do so AFTER all kids are back in their community schools.

Agreed. At the next BRAC meeting, they are reviewing a scenario of everyone returning to their zoned school. So many of these inflated schools are influenced by those they allow attend from other zone, and often those over-achievers looking for more!

Bring students back to their home zones, offer fair and enticing programming within all pyramids and then assess capacity issues. See how testing and scores level out before their next equity brigade.

Was not aware this option was being considered (returning everyone to their zoned school). I think this is what many of us wanted as a start point for this whole review process, very pleased it's being presented to the BRAC.

There are now just 2 options under consideration, but that might change again.

Option #1

Return everyone to their base school


Option #2

Move 6th grade from elementary school to middle school, which will require extensive rezoning in every neighborhood and school, including converting some elementary schools to middle schools and moving 6th graders as young as 10 years old into the secondary schools with students as old as 21.

Most of the oldest students will be 18/19 or younger, but if they are severely special needs or a recent migrant, they can attend high school until they are 21, as long as they are 20 years old the first day of school.

The significant expense of Option #2 was not accounted for in the most recent CIP, but it is now Dr. Reid's #1 priority by her own words at multiple community meetings, so logic and expense be damned.

If I were a Robinson, SoCo, or Lake Braddock zoned parent of elementary kids, I would be raising holy hell with my school board reps about this, before they finalize the move.

The 21 year old migrant and special needs high school students are federal law. I would also be raising hell with Tim Kaine, Connolly and Mark Warner about the 21 year old migrant men being allowed to attend traditional high school. The special needs students makes sense, but perfectly capable adult men allowed to be students in high schools and secondary schools does not.

If they are old enough to be charged with statuatory rape if they date anyone in their high school class, then they do not belong in traditional high school, especially if FCPS is moving 10 and 11 year old 6th graders into the building and school busses.

Option #2 is “nuclear”, per previous FCPS words. Totally understand and agree that 6-8 is very common throughout the country but FCPS facilities has not, nor is, built to support this. The fact Reid is even considering this shows she doesn’t understand the county’s limitations.

How would an elementary school become a middle school? If it were, it would be 6th grade only and all the reasons Reid gave for moving 6th graders are moot anyway. THe gyms are too small, the math teachers wouldn’t be able to talk to other math teachers. And you take away walk zones.

I think this is a a negotiation tactic. Get everyone riled up so when the real maps are revealed, it is less disruptive and everyone says ok.

THe impracticality of it is ridiculous.

6th -8th grade middle schools are the norm in many school district, and is the case in many local jurisdiction.

I would like to see more secondary schools. Shrink the boundaries and eliminate middle schools entirely. HS should be 7th - 12th. The 21yr old student is a silly argument. Most 21yr olds will be out earning a living in the trades/construction regardless of educational attainment.

The middle schools can be repurposed as HS too, but with much smaller boundaries.

The they are going to rape my daughter is so offensive on so many levels. It’s very Trumpian actually. Fear and hate are corrosive.

Omg no. I don’t want 17-18 year olds around my 12 year old. You are effing nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are now just 2 options under consideration, but that might change again.

Option #1

Return everyone to their base school

What does this mean?

Where is the source for this? The latest BRAC e-mail described them as the first two scenarios, meaning there would be more options presented at subsequent meetings:

Dr. Reid welcomed the group and reminded the committee that at the next meetings the first two scenarios will be reviewed, to include evaluation of 6th grade in middle school, and a scenario that assumes all students attend the school that they are zoned to attend based on the current boundary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Before any discussion of changing boundaries, the SB needs to eliminate ALL AAP centers and just ensure every school has AAP classes. The skewing and confusion of borders is due in large part to the absurd busing of certain students to center schools. At this point, the center model is redundant and wasteful and needs to end.

Boundaries should only be addressed if there is a need to do so AFTER all kids are back in their community schools.

Agreed. At the next BRAC meeting, they are reviewing a scenario of everyone returning to their zoned school. So many of these inflated schools are influenced by those they allow attend from other zone, and often those over-achievers looking for more!

Bring students back to their home zones, offer fair and enticing programming within all pyramids and then assess capacity issues. See how testing and scores level out before their next equity brigade.

Was not aware this option was being considered (returning everyone to their zoned school). I think this is what many of us wanted as a start point for this whole review process, very pleased it's being presented to the BRAC.

There are now just 2 options under consideration, but that might change again.

Option #1

Return everyone to their base school


Option #2

Move 6th grade from elementary school to middle school, which will require extensive rezoning in every neighborhood and school, including converting some elementary schools to middle schools and moving 6th graders as young as 10 years old into the secondary schools with students as old as 21.

Most of the oldest students will be 18/19 or younger, but if they are severely special needs or a recent migrant, they can attend high school until they are 21, as long as they are 20 years old the first day of school.

The significant expense of Option #2 was not accounted for in the most recent CIP, but it is now Dr. Reid's #1 priority by her own words at multiple community meetings, so logic and expense be damned.

If I were a Robinson, SoCo, or Lake Braddock zoned parent of elementary kids, I would be raising holy hell with my school board reps about this, before they finalize the move.

The 21 year old migrant and special needs high school students are federal law. I would also be raising hell with Tim Kaine, Connolly and Mark Warner about the 21 year old migrant men being allowed to attend traditional high school. The special needs students makes sense, but perfectly capable adult men allowed to be students in high schools and secondary schools does not.

If they are old enough to be charged with statuatory rape if they date anyone in their high school class, then they do not belong in traditional high school, especially if FCPS is moving 10 and 11 year old 6th graders into the building and school busses.

Option #2 is “nuclear”, per previous FCPS words. Totally understand and agree that 6-8 is very common throughout the country but FCPS facilities has not, nor is, built to support this. The fact Reid is even considering this shows she doesn’t understand the county’s limitations.

How would an elementary school become a middle school? If it were, it would be 6th grade only and all the reasons Reid gave for moving 6th graders are moot anyway. THe gyms are too small, the math teachers wouldn’t be able to talk to other math teachers. And you take away walk zones.

I think this is a a negotiation tactic. Get everyone riled up so when the real maps are revealed, it is less disruptive and everyone says ok.

THe impracticality of it is ridiculous.

A friend who teaches 6th grade in FCPS said this hasn’t been brought up to the teachers yet. And it’s beyond ridiculous because many aren’t certified to switch nor WANT that completely changed approach. Most wouldn’t be able to test and certify by Fall 2026.

I agree that they are using it as a distraction and then will say “fine, we won’t move 6th grade yet. You win that, but here’s the new boundaries so take it”

[Anonymous]

Reid is the biggest idiot ever to become superintendent in FCPS. She doesn’t know the district she’s ostensibly supposed to lead, she can’t read a room to save her life, and all she knows how to do is toss out bad ideas that she picked up leading a tiny, homogeneous school district on the west coast.

Someone needs to step up and remove this woman from her responsibilities before she totally screws up FCPS. The school board is full of useless morons so it won’t lift a finger, but the board of supervisors or Youngkin need to step up. FCPS needs to be placed in receivership.