FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:Sure would be nice if the Timber Lane crew gave other communities the chance to have their voices heard tonight!


Top comments continue to be "don't do this" and "start by checking residency." I think the vibe of the community is coming through fine.


Anyone else notice a pattern from literally every community feedback session that they’ve done over the last seven months. No matter the pyramid, every stop is filled with parents who oppose the boundary changes.
that is the norm for nearly every boundary change that ever was. People do not like change.


True. This one seems like a particularly self-inflicted political wound, and it’s not like they hadn’t heard from the community by the time they really started down this path.

We really have to do better electing school board members who represent the community’s views.
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Anonymous wrote:Poplar Heights and Donna Lee Gardens should be lobbying to move to Shrevewood in place of the apartments off Hollywood Rd. This would eliminate the risk of Shrevewood becoming an over capacity Title I school. They’d also be guaranteed their consolation pyramid (Kilmer/Marshall) and they’d physically share a border with the McLean HS boundary should the Shrevewood split feeder proposal stick.


Shrevewood parents crap all over their current poor kids (off Route 29 and outside the Beltway) so they probably aren't going to be very nice to the kids west of Hollywood Road, either. They want so bad to be Haycock South and instead the school is turning into Timber Lane West.


Shrevewood parents have given up on that community and school. Most families have taken their UMC kids to Lemon Road and it seems like most (all) would be happy to be redistricted to MHS. Pathetic little community of virtue signalers.

Aw, I'm sorry that you lost out on the house you put an offer on in Falls Hill, sweetie! Better luck next time!

The vibe at Poplar Heights pool with the proposed changes to Shrevewood and Timber Lane hanging over the community is going to be TENSE this summer.


It will be not be tense. Your wording “hanging over the community” is dramatic. There are FCC and St James families at the pool as well.


NP. Current member of the PH pool here. Have been three times in the last two weeks. Not one fellow member has talked to me about it once. Everybody just wants to live their life.


That person is clearly someone who is jealous that they can't buy a house in the area. There's no other reason.

Also we literally don't know anyone at the pool with kids at Timber Lane. Those neighborhoods are closer to the Lee-Graham pool, which is easier to get into and cheaper.


I know quite a few with kids currently at Timber Lane. The neighborhood immediately south and adjacent to the pool is zoned to Timber Lane. Wonderful families.
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At what point does the school board get concerned that the outrage is intense enough that it starts to put their reelection in jeopardy?

I’d argue they’ve been playing with fire on this and at least a few of them are now vulnerable.

Even if one seat flips with an accompanying focus from that new board member on accountability it’d be fascinating to see what additional scandals might surface.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure would be nice if the Timber Lane crew gave other communities the chance to have their voices heard tonight!


Top comments continue to be "don't do this" and "start by checking residency." I think the vibe of the community is coming through fine.


Anyone else notice a pattern from literally every community feedback session that they’ve done over the last seven months. No matter the pyramid, every stop is filled with parents who oppose the boundary changes.
that is the norm for nearly every boundary change that ever was. People do not like change.


+1

FCPS should make boundary changes more often so the community understands that it is a normal process for growing communities. They waited too long and now everyone is being a big fat whiny baby about it.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure would be nice if the Timber Lane crew gave other communities the chance to have their voices heard tonight!


Top comments continue to be "don't do this" and "start by checking residency." I think the vibe of the community is coming through fine.


Anyone else notice a pattern from literally every community feedback session that they’ve done over the last seven months. No matter the pyramid, every stop is filled with parents who oppose the boundary changes.
that is the norm for nearly every boundary change that ever was. People do not like change.


+1

FCPS should make boundary changes more often so the community understands that it is a normal process for growing communities. They waited too long and now everyone is being a big fat whiny baby about it.



Oh yeah, the best way to stop screwing over your constituents is to screw them over so much that they get used to it.

You aren’t a serious person.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure would be nice if the Timber Lane crew gave other communities the chance to have their voices heard tonight!


Top comments continue to be "don't do this" and "start by checking residency." I think the vibe of the community is coming through fine.


Anyone else notice a pattern from literally every community feedback session that they’ve done over the last seven months. No matter the pyramid, every stop is filled with parents who oppose the boundary changes.
that is the norm for nearly every boundary change that ever was. People do not like change.


+1

FCPS should make boundary changes more often so the community understands that it is a normal process for growing communities. They waited too long and now everyone is being a big fat whiny baby about it.



+1. The best way to get these clowns out of office is to have them double down on stupid.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:At what point does the school board get concerned that the outrage is intense enough that it starts to put their reelection in jeopardy?

I’d argue they’ve been playing with fire on this and at least a few of them are now vulnerable.

Even if one seat flips with an accompanying focus from that new board member on accountability it’d be fascinating to see what additional scandals might surface.



SB chair Karl Frisch had a political war-chest of over $400,000 during the last election, while every other candidate (D or R) had about $50,000. Karl donated most of his donations to other candidates, including disgraced Kyle McDaniel.

Karl only needs a simple majority on the Board to steam-roll through whatever changes he wants.

Your Board does not care what you think because they know they are invincible in FFX simply by virtue of the “D “ behind their name.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure would be nice if the Timber Lane crew gave other communities the chance to have their voices heard tonight!


Top comments continue to be "don't do this" and "start by checking residency." I think the vibe of the community is coming through fine.


Anyone else notice a pattern from literally every community feedback session that they’ve done over the last seven months. No matter the pyramid, every stop is filled with parents who oppose the boundary changes.
that is the norm for nearly every boundary change that ever was. People do not like change.


+1

FCPS should make boundary changes more often so the community understands that it is a normal process for growing communities. They waited too long and now everyone is being a big fat whiny baby about it.



Growing communities? Perhaps.

FCPS has flat enrollment and is looking at enrollment declines.

The fact is that these boundary changes are a farce, and county residents repeatedly give them an opportunity to pull the plug on this idiocy.

They have completely failed to make the case that these changes would provide tangible benefits.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure would be nice if the Timber Lane crew gave other communities the chance to have their voices heard tonight!


Top comments continue to be "don't do this" and "start by checking residency." I think the vibe of the community is coming through fine.


Anyone else notice a pattern from literally every community feedback session that they’ve done over the last seven months. No matter the pyramid, every stop is filled with parents who oppose the boundary changes.
that is the norm for nearly every boundary change that ever was. People do not like change.


True. This one seems like a particularly self-inflicted political wound, and it’s not like they hadn’t heard from the community by the time they really started down this path.

We really have to do better electing school board members who represent the community’s views.


When a couple of elementary schools send forth hundreds of parents to show up or vote en masse, that is not an accurate representation of the community's views. There are 140+ elementary schools in FCPS, and feedback is being submitted virtually in favor of changes.
Any smart analyst would know that a few dozen responses across FCPS regions is far more valuable than 500 responses from one elementary school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure would be nice if the Timber Lane crew gave other communities the chance to have their voices heard tonight!


Top comments continue to be "don't do this" and "start by checking residency." I think the vibe of the community is coming through fine.


Anyone else notice a pattern from literally every community feedback session that they’ve done over the last seven months. No matter the pyramid, every stop is filled with parents who oppose the boundary changes.
that is the norm for nearly every boundary change that ever was. People do not like change.


+1

FCPS should make boundary changes more often so the community understands that it is a normal process for growing communities. They waited too long and now everyone is being a big fat whiny baby about it.



BS.

The majority of school districts across the country do not rezone in the way FCPS is attempting to do because stability for kids is crucial.

The vast majority of school districts across the country only rezone when new schools are built or when schools are closed.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:At what point does the school board get concerned that the outrage is intense enough that it starts to put their reelection in jeopardy?

I’d argue they’ve been playing with fire on this and at least a few of them are now vulnerable.

Even if one seat flips with an accompanying focus from that new board member on accountability it’d be fascinating to see what additional scandals might surface.



SB chair Karl Frisch had a political war-chest of over $400,000 during the last election, while every other candidate (D or R) had about $50,000. Karl donated most of his donations to other candidates, including disgraced Kyle McDaniel.

Karl only needs a simple majority on the Board to steam-roll through whatever changes he wants.

Your Board does not care what you think because they know they are invincible in FFX simply by virtue of the “D “ behind their name.


Karl Frisch does not have kids, does not have a background in education, received the majority of his financial support from California, and planned to use his original election as a one term step to higher office.

With all of this public knowledge, it is astonishing that his constituents reelected him, and even crazier that he will probably win again by large margins.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure would be nice if the Timber Lane crew gave other communities the chance to have their voices heard tonight!


Top comments continue to be "don't do this" and "start by checking residency." I think the vibe of the community is coming through fine.


Anyone else notice a pattern from literally every community feedback session that they’ve done over the last seven months. No matter the pyramid, every stop is filled with parents who oppose the boundary changes.
that is the norm for nearly every boundary change that ever was. People do not like change.


True. This one seems like a particularly self-inflicted political wound, and it’s not like they hadn’t heard from the community by the time they really started down this path.

We really have to do better electing school board members who represent the community’s views.


When a couple of elementary schools send forth hundreds of parents to show up or vote en masse, that is not an accurate representation of the community's views. There are 140+ elementary schools in FCPS, and feedback is being submitted virtually in favor of changes.
Any smart analyst would know that a few dozen responses across FCPS regions is far more valuable than 500 responses from one elementary school.


It’s very easy to sign up for their boundary meetings, participate virtually, and anonymously submit comments expressing your support for either specific boundary changes or the proposed boundary changes in general.

No one will know it’s your comment and no one can downvote your comment, only upvote your comment.

But you know what? They are getting next to no comments of this nature, much less comments that get broad support, because they have not convinced people these changes are needed or will provide benefits worth the disruption.

I don’t think they’ll desist because if they cancel this review it’s an admission that they and their hand-picked superintendent are abject failures. But there is incredibly little enthusiasm for what they are doing. They haven’t shown it is either necessary or beneficial.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure would be nice if the Timber Lane crew gave other communities the chance to have their voices heard tonight!


Top comments continue to be "don't do this" and "start by checking residency." I think the vibe of the community is coming through fine.


Anyone else notice a pattern from literally every community feedback session that they’ve done over the last seven months. No matter the pyramid, every stop is filled with parents who oppose the boundary changes.
that is the norm for nearly every boundary change that ever was. People do not like change.


True. This one seems like a particularly self-inflicted political wound, and it’s not like they hadn’t heard from the community by the time they really started down this path.

We really have to do better electing school board members who represent the community’s views.


When a couple of elementary schools send forth hundreds of parents to show up or vote en masse, that is not an accurate representation of the community's views. There are 140+ elementary schools in FCPS, and feedback is being submitted virtually in favor of changes.
Any smart analyst would know that a few dozen responses across FCPS regions is far more valuable than 500 responses from one elementary school.


The comments in favor of rezoning are few and far between.

Resoning is not popular.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure would be nice if the Timber Lane crew gave other communities the chance to have their voices heard tonight!


Top comments continue to be "don't do this" and "start by checking residency." I think the vibe of the community is coming through fine.


Anyone else notice a pattern from literally every community feedback session that they’ve done over the last seven months. No matter the pyramid, every stop is filled with parents who oppose the boundary changes.
that is the norm for nearly every boundary change that ever was. People do not like change.


True. This one seems like a particularly self-inflicted political wound, and it’s not like they hadn’t heard from the community by the time they really started down this path.

We really have to do better electing school board members who represent the community’s views.


When a couple of elementary schools send forth hundreds of parents to show up or vote en masse, that is not an accurate representation of the community's views. There are 140+ elementary schools in FCPS, and feedback is being submitted virtually in favor of changes.
Any smart analyst would know that a few dozen responses across FCPS regions is far more valuable than 500 responses from one elementary school.


You mean like the dozens of community meetings that have been held across the country over the last year where the community EVERY time says they are against the boundary changes?

Are all those meetings representative? Like the overwhelming outrage focused on these boundary changes at every opportunity given to the community?

The SB has a real mess of their own making on their hands.
Anonymous
No matter how FCPS got here (poor planning, bad data, gerrymandering), there are very real issues with the boundaries that need to be fixed. For example, the intense overcrowding at Coates and the (single/double) split feeders that endanger students mental health. It is not right to cancel the whole review when some communities need changes. However, FCPS is going about this in the worst way possible. If they offered grandfathering, then they could make changes without sacrificing an entire generation of kids. Lots of families would be fine being rezoned, but wouldn’t be fine with their child having to switch after already attending a certain school. These kids are already a mess after Covid shutdowns. It’s so frustrating that FCPS seems to not care about the children and families when that should be their main focus.
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