If you make <36,000 or >81,000, You Aren't Middle Class. Or "Upper" Middle Class.

[Anonymous]

http://money.cnn.com/calculator/pf/income-rank/index.html

Mathematically, the middle 1/3rd of HHI falls between 36k and 81k. If you make less, you're working / labor / poor. If you make more, you're upper / wealthy / rich. You're allowed to "feel" however you want (there are plenty of threads here with people with 700k+ incomes calling themselves "middle" class), but in the reality-based world, you're not middle class. Or "upper" middle class. Above 81k, you're no longer middle class. And no, knowing people who make more than you doesn't make you middle class, unless the people you know represent more than 1/3rd (but less than 2/3rds) of the country.

[Anonymous]

Truth. We make ~100k and we're well aware that we're rich compared to most in the US, and even most in DC, seeing as the median HHI here (the most precise definition of "middle" that exists) is 73k, or 30k less than we make.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Truth. We make ~100k and we're well aware that we're rich compared to most in the US, and even most in DC, seeing as the median HHI here (the most precise definition of "middle" that exists) is 73k, or 30k less than we make.

+1. Most people aren't going to want to hear this because they're busy hand-wringing about how little they have left over after stuffing tens of thousands of dollars into retirement each year, private school, overseas vacations, or other luxuries, but the math (unlike people) doesn't lie. The fact that someone with 300k manages to spend 250k each year does not mean they live the same life as someone making 50k.

[Anonymous]

yup people are comparing to other people in their neighborhood or who they know which is not representative of even the rest of the DC metro

[Anonymous]

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I am an educated, professional, middle-aged woman earning $100,000 who was repeatedly called, among other things, (1) way below average, a) a loser, c) a failure in my career, and d) practically eligible for welfare right here on a DCUM forum. Nice to see reality intrude.

[Anonymous]

Class and income are correlated but not the same thing.

You may be upper/lower/middle income, but it doesn't mean you're automatically upper/working/middle class.

[Anonymous]

31K - 81K is middle-to-upper class in Atlanta. It's struggling in D.C.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Truth. We make ~100k and we're well aware that we're rich compared to most in the US, and even most in DC, seeing as the median HHI here (the most precise definition of "middle" that exists) is 73k, or 30k less than we make.

The median HHI in the DC metro area is $93k, the highest in the country. Basicallyl, you have a median HHI.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2016/09/21/the-dc-area-has-the-highest-median-income-in-the-us-again/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you, thank you, thank you! I am an educated, professional, middle-aged woman earning $100,000 who was repeatedly called, among other things, (1) way below average, a) a loser, c) a failure in my career, and d) practically eligible for welfare right here on a DCUM forum. Nice to see reality intrude.

The median HHI in the DC metro area is $93k. You're basically making the median income. You're average.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:31K - 81K is middle-to-upper class in Atlanta. It's struggling in D.C.

LOL please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you, thank you, thank you! I am an educated, professional, middle-aged woman earning $100,000 who was repeatedly called, among other things, (1) way below average, a) a loser, c) a failure in my career, and d) practically eligible for welfare right here on a DCUM forum. Nice to see reality intrude.

The median HHI in the DC metro area is $93k. You're basically making the median income. You're average.

But that's HHI, and most couples both work. An individual salary of $100K is clearly above average.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you, thank you, thank you! I am an educated, professional, middle-aged woman earning $100,000 who was repeatedly called, among other things, (1) way below average, a) a loser, c) a failure in my career, and d) practically eligible for welfare right here on a DCUM forum. Nice to see reality intrude.

Hmmm, based on how you describe yourself if you are attractive and single please contact me!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you, thank you, thank you! I am an educated, professional, middle-aged woman earning $100,000 who was repeatedly called, among other things, (1) way below average, a) a loser, c) a failure in my career, and d) practically eligible for welfare right here on a DCUM forum. Nice to see reality intrude.

Hmmm, based on how you describe yourself if you are attractive and single please contact me!

Are you a single, educated, professional, middle-aged male? I'm listening!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you, thank you, thank you! I am an educated, professional, middle-aged woman earning $100,000 who was repeatedly called, among other things, (1) way below average, a) a loser, c) a failure in my career, and d) practically eligible for welfare right here on a DCUM forum. Nice to see reality intrude.

The median HHI in the DC metro area is $93k. You're basically making the median income. You're average.

These are not the same thing. By far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you, thank you, thank you! I am an educated, professional, middle-aged woman earning $100,000 who was repeatedly called, among other things, (1) way below average, a) a loser, c) a failure in my career, and d) practically eligible for welfare right here on a DCUM forum. Nice to see reality intrude.

The median HHI in the DC metro area is $93k. You're basically making the median income. You're average.

These are not the same thing. By far.

We had an entire thread on this topic. Basically, you've got to distinguish between HHI (which consists of two people about half the time) and individual salaries. I'd say $100,000 is above average for a single income, even in DC.