should a child be tested every time they do an reevaluation?

[Anonymous]

my ADHD DD was only giving the Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children in 4th grade. She graduated from high school, and is going to enter NOVA in the fall. Today when she meet with the disability counselor she told me that she needs to be re tested, and last time she was tested was in 4th grade. When I attend the IEP meetings I didn't know she had to be tested every 3 years, because in the re evlal they would say that she needs special education services so I wasn't aware about that... If you have an DC with IEP are they retested every time they are evaluated if they fail to re test do you ask someone else other than the case manager? MY other DD is a 4th grader so when is her time to do I don't want to make mistake like I did with my oldest one.

[Anonymous]

Testing carries the risk that your child could be disqualified for services, so no you don't test if you don't need to. But if there is a need for more information, then, of course, you test.

[Anonymous]

To get accommodations as an adult in college, testing must have been given when she was 16 or older - on the 'adult' version of the evaluations.

So she wouldn't need to have necessarily had done it every 3 years but you will need one now.

[Anonymous]

Our DC was complicated and we ended up privately retesting every 3-4 years. Additional issues bubbled up the first two times we had DC retested.

It really doesn't matter how often your DC was tested if she was getting the appropriate services for her issues. So you are fine on that front. The PP is correct that colleges require recent testing after age 16. This is because the tests change slightly as the child age and the tests given after age 16 are adult versions of the tests and because student's needs can change as they age into adulthood.

[Anonymous]

No, a child doesn't need to be re-tested for the triennial review to determine eligibility. I have 2 kids with IEPs in HS now. In the early elementary years, testing (school and private) were more frequent as we strove to understand our kids' challenges and areas of need. As they got older, we did less testing because we (us and the school team) didn't feel additional information was needed. I will say that one DS has a math disability and took a specific assessment for math almost every year because that was an ongoing area of concern and we needed to know how much he was able to generalize.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, a child doesn't need to be re-tested for the triennial review to determine eligibility. I have 2 kids with IEPs in HS now. In the early elementary years, testing (school and private) were more frequent as we strove to understand our kids' challenges and areas of need. As they got older, we did less testing because we (us and the school team) didn't feel additional information was needed. I will say that one DS has a math disability and took a specific assessment for math almost every year because that was an ongoing area of concern and we needed to know how much he was able to generalize.

thanks, MY DD was pissed off saying the school system sucks and they failed and all that .... I guess they didn't do anything wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, a child doesn't need to be re-tested for the triennial review to determine eligibility. I have 2 kids with IEPs in HS now. In the early elementary years, testing (school and private) were more frequent as we strove to understand our kids' challenges and areas of need. As they got older, we did less testing because we (us and the school team) didn't feel additional information was needed. I will say that one DS has a math disability and took a specific assessment for math almost every year because that was an ongoing area of concern and we needed to know how much he was able to generalize.

thanks, MY DD was pissed off saying the school system sucks and they failed and all that .... I guess they didn't do anything wrong.

They are required to re-test every three years unless the team (which includes you) agrees that testing isn't necessary. That should have been a discussion in IEP meetings.

[Anonymous]

I don't believe that it is generally accepted by the neuropsychologists that the IQ test should be done more than once. In fact, the 2nd-4th grade age range is considered the best time to do it as IQ is considered most stable.

But there are other tests that can be redone or as updates, such as academic achievement tests and the various scales done for anxiety, ADHD, Autism, etc. Are you sure that's not what the counselor wants to see?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, a child doesn't need to be re-tested for the triennial review to determine eligibility. I have 2 kids with IEPs in HS now. In the early elementary years, testing (school and private) were more frequent as we strove to understand our kids' challenges and areas of need. As they got older, we did less testing because we (us and the school team) didn't feel additional information was needed. I will say that one DS has a math disability and took a specific assessment for math almost every year because that was an ongoing area of concern and we needed to know how much he was able to generalize.

thanks, MY DD was pissed off saying the school system sucks and they failed and all that .... I guess they didn't do anything wrong.

+1. It's very common for public schools to try to avoid doing actual achievement and other testimg every three years because it means that there is no objective evidence about progress; you are for ed to accept their non-standardized, non-normed assessment as to whether your child is at, above or below grade level and what kind of remediation should occur.

Yes, on rare occassions, testing means a child loses qualification for IEP, but much more often not testing means that a child is likely missing out on important instruction and support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, a child doesn't need to be re-tested for the triennial review to determine eligibility. I have 2 kids with IEPs in HS now. In the early elementary years, testing (school and private) were more frequent as we strove to understand our kids' challenges and areas of need. As they got older, we did less testing because we (us and the school team) didn't feel additional information was needed. I will say that one DS has a math disability and took a specific assessment for math almost every year because that was an ongoing area of concern and we needed to know how much he was able to generalize.

thanks, MY DD was pissed off saying the school system sucks and they failed and all that .... I guess they didn't do anything wrong.

+1. It's very common for public schools to try to avoid doing actual achievement and other testimg every three years because it means that there is no objective evidence about progress; you are for ed to accept their non-standardized, non-normed assessment as to whether your child is at, above or below grade level and what kind of remediation should occur.

Yes, on rare occassions, testing means a child loses qualification for IEP, but much more often not testing means that a child is likely missing out on important instruction and support.

m


I agree, her last re evl was in 10th grade, would you ask your DC teacher to ask them in their last re evl in high school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't believe that it is generally accepted by the neuropsychologists that the IQ test should be done more than once. In fact, the 2nd-4th grade age range is considered the best time to do it as IQ is considered most stable.

But there are other tests that can be redone or as updates, such as academic achievement tests and the various scales done for anxiety, ADHD, Autism, etc. Are you sure that's not what the counselor wants to see?

That may be true for neurotypical children, but frequently in children with special needs, that is a time when those special needs are still being teased out and many can interfere with an IQ test. I know with my DC, the IQ test was ruled invalid because of the results. It wasn't until he was in 8th grade when they finally were able to have a valid IQ test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, a child doesn't need to be re-tested for the triennial review to determine eligibility. I have 2 kids with IEPs in HS now. In the early elementary years, testing (school and private) were more frequent as we strove to understand our kids' challenges and areas of need. As they got older, we did less testing because we (us and the school team) didn't feel additional information was needed. I will say that one DS has a math disability and took a specific assessment for math almost every year because that was an ongoing area of concern and we needed to know how much he was able to generalize.

thanks, MY DD was pissed off saying the school system sucks and they failed and all that .... I guess they didn't do anything wrong.

There is some gray area here. It would have been helpful and prudent to do testing after she turned 16 so that she could use it for college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:my ADHD DD was only giving the Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children in 4th grade. She graduated from high school, and is going to enter NOVA in the fall. Today when she meet with the disability counselor she told me that she needs to be re tested, and last time she was tested was in 4th grade. When I attend the IEP meetings I didn't know she had to be tested every 3 years, because in the re evlal they would say that she needs special education services so I wasn't aware about that... If you have an DC with IEP are they retested every time they are evaluated if they fail to re test do you ask someone else other than the case manager? MY other DD is a 4th grader so when is her time to do I don't want to make mistake like I did with my oldest one.

Testing every three years is only required if the team needs to determine whether a student continues to qualify for services, requires a change of code, or when additional conditions are suspected. Testing can be done at any time for these reasons---they do not need to wait for the 3 year mark.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, a child doesn't need to be re-tested for the triennial review to determine eligibility. I have 2 kids with IEPs in HS now. In the early elementary years, testing (school and private) were more frequent as we strove to understand our kids' challenges and areas of need. As they got older, we did less testing because we (us and the school team) didn't feel additional information was needed. I will say that one DS has a math disability and took a specific assessment for math almost every year because that was an ongoing area of concern and we needed to know how much he was able to generalize.

thanks, MY DD was pissed off saying the school system sucks and they failed and all that .... I guess they didn't do anything wrong.

+1. It's very common for public schools to try to avoid doing actual achievement and other testimg every three years because it means that there is no objective evidence about progress; you are for ed to accept their non-standardized, non-normed assessment as to whether your child is at, above or below grade level and what kind of remediation should occur.

Yes, on rare occassions, testing means a child loses qualification for IEP, but much more often not testing means that a child is likely missing out on important instruction and support.

m


I agree, her last re evl was in 10th grade, would you ask your DC teacher to ask them in their last re evl in high school?

The teacher doesn't do the testing or make the decision to test. And if IEP services aren't at issue, you'd have a hard time convincing them to test now. But it doesn't hurt to ask your LEA (special ed coordinator).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To get accommodations as an adult in college, testing must have been given when she was 16 or older - on the 'adult' version of the evaluations.

So she wouldn't need to have necessarily had done it every 3 years but you will need one now.

True, but this isn't necessarily the school district's responsibility. The parents may be out of pocket for this.