Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not linking to that giant comment, but the movie made over $350 million dollars! Everyone should be paying Blake Lively to help with the wardrobe on their movies going forward! Most movies like this are lucky to make $50 million, and $100 million would have been a huge success! The wardrobe stuff obviously created buzz that translated into ticket sales.

I’m just noting that the mean moms calling Lively fat are hypocrites, which I’m allowed to do, just like you’re allowed to focus on the parts of this saga that are boring to me. To each her own.

It would have made $500 million starring an actress with talent, who doesn't repel audiences and co-stars.

Movies centered on female characters and life experiences almost never gross $500 or more. The only recent one I can think of was Inside Out 2, which grossed $1.7b worldwide. But that's an animated movie, it was a sequel of a very popular first movie, and it had a G rating and a family focus. It also cost 200m to make, as opposed to 25m for IEWU. A movie rated PG-13, focused on a female lead, containing heavy themes including DV? No way. You could put the tippy top a-list actress in that role and it would never make that much. You can't get audiences to do see movies like that in those numbers.

For comparison:
The Girl on the Train, starring Emily Blunt, made $173.2m worldwide, on a $45m budget
Gone Girl, starring Ben Affleck and Rosamund Pike, made $168m worldwide, on a $61m budget

IEWU was a monster success, super cheap to make, and way, way, way outperformed expectations. Sorry.

Amazing how a scum mom just happens to have those facts on hand to dispute any anti BL claims. Yep, either a well connected dcum mom, or paid pr!

As we’ve all been saying, they exist on this thread!

[Anonymous]

I man, what dcum mom doesn’t have movie revenue facts on hand to shut down stuff?

You guys and gals are unbelievable, infiltrating our mommy site.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not linking to that giant comment, but the movie made over $350 million dollars! Everyone should be paying Blake Lively to help with the wardrobe on their movies going forward! Most movies like this are lucky to make $50 million, and $100 million would have been a huge success! The wardrobe stuff obviously created buzz that translated into ticket sales.

I’m just noting that the mean moms calling Lively fat are hypocrites, which I’m allowed to do, just like you’re allowed to focus on the parts of this saga that are boring to me. To each her own.

But it’s disingenuous to say Blake lively made the movie $350 million. She clearly contributed to that, but the movie was coming in with a huge fan base. Colleen Hoover is one of the best selling authors to ever exist in the world. Of the top 20 best sellers in the last year, 8 of those are Colleen Hoover books. That is pretty unprecedented and IEWU is one of her most popular and it has a sequel so people were really excited for this franchise.

Absolutely agree that she contributed to why this movie did so well I’m not trying to take away from that, but what annoys me about this is Justin and his team had been working on this since 2019. They fought for the rights, They secured financing, they hired a screenwriter to adapt the book for the screen and got Colleen Hoover’s approval on that. They set up a whole world which took years of work and Blake stepped in and wanted to make some changes and call it her movie.

Also, with a movie with so many built-in fans, she didn’t treat them very respectfully. She constantly had her lawyer threaten her walking away from the movie which she could’ve easily done since she never signed her contract. That would have caused the production company millions and no doubt tank this movie and it would likely not have been made for many years. The utter disrespect and just overall gall is absurd.

I don’t totally disagree with some of what you say but to pretend this is about her disrespect of HIM after surprisingly trying to have her naked for the delivery scene and mansplaining to her (mother of 4) what a “normal woman” looked like in childbirth is a little much for me. The problems started with him.

Nobody mansplained anything to her. They were trying to direct a scene in the movie about a woman giving birth. They actually were not trying to coach Blake through her fourth birth.

If what you described is mansplaining, any female who has ever given birth in real life and gave birth in a movie, or has ever become a mom in real life and plays a mom in a movie, has been mansplained by a director. Let’s not act like all women are so fragile they can’t actually play a character.

[Anonymous]

Folks, I want to share a secret with you.

Go to Google or your search engine of choice and type in the name of literally any movie and the words "gross" or "how much did it earn" or "how much did it cost to make" and you will get these numbers instantly. Like within seconds.

I thought most people knew that but apparently it is coming as a real surprise to some of you. You're welcome!

[Anonymous]

The movie completely unexpectedly made $350 million dollars but “she screwed up” is a position I do not understand. $350 million with a no name director Lively and Slate being the only somewhat big names is a miracle. Everyone should be hiring BL and JB to feud through another movie tif they somehow banked $350m out of a romantic drama where the two leads break up and the family splits apart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not linking to that giant comment, but the movie made over $350 million dollars! Everyone should be paying Blake Lively to help with the wardrobe on their movies going forward! Most movies like this are lucky to make $50 million, and $100 million would have been a huge success! The wardrobe stuff obviously created buzz that translated into ticket sales.

I’m just noting that the mean moms calling Lively fat are hypocrites, which I’m allowed to do, just like you’re allowed to focus on the parts of this saga that are boring to me. To each her own.

It would have made $500 million starring an actress with talent, who doesn't repel audiences and co-stars.

Movies centered on female characters and life experiences almost never gross $500 or more. The only recent one I can think of was Inside Out 2, which grossed $1.7b worldwide. But that's an animated movie, it was a sequel of a very popular first movie, and it had a G rating and a family focus. It also cost 200m to make, as opposed to 25m for IEWU. A movie rated PG-13, focused on a female lead, containing heavy themes including DV? No way. You could put the tippy top a-list actress in that role and it would never make that much. You can't get audiences to do see movies like that in those numbers.

For comparison:
The Girl on the Train, starring Emily Blunt, made $173.2m worldwide, on a $45m budget
Gone Girl, starring Ben Affleck and Rosamund Pike, made $168m worldwide, on a $61m budget

IEWU was a monster success, super cheap to make, and way, way, way outperformed expectations. Sorry.

You handpicked a few movies that that were average at best, leaving off a whole slew of female centered movies that have done ridiculously good. Barbie anyone? Pretty sure that grossed over 1 billion. Anna Kendrick movies alone have grossed over $400 billion. You really don’t know what you’re talking about.

I would argue gone girl was a Ben Affleck movie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not linking to that giant comment, but the movie made over $350 million dollars! Everyone should be paying Blake Lively to help with the wardrobe on their movies going forward! Most movies like this are lucky to make $50 million, and $100 million would have been a huge success! The wardrobe stuff obviously created buzz that translated into ticket sales.

I’m just noting that the mean moms calling Lively fat are hypocrites, which I’m allowed to do, just like you’re allowed to focus on the parts of this saga that are boring to me. To each her own.

But it’s disingenuous to say Blake lively made the movie $350 million. She clearly contributed to that, but the movie was coming in with a huge fan base. Colleen Hoover is one of the best selling authors to ever exist in the world. Of the top 20 best sellers in the last year, 8 of those are Colleen Hoover books. That is pretty unprecedented and IEWU is one of her most popular and it has a sequel so people were really excited for this franchise.

Absolutely agree that she contributed to why this movie did so well I’m not trying to take away from that, but what annoys me about this is Justin and his team had been working on this since 2019. They fought for the rights, They secured financing, they hired a screenwriter to adapt the book for the screen and got Colleen Hoover’s approval on that. They set up a whole world which took years of work and Blake stepped in and wanted to make some changes and call it her movie.

Also, with a movie with so many built-in fans, she didn’t treat them very respectfully. She constantly had her lawyer threaten her walking away from the movie which she could’ve easily done since she never signed her contract. That would have caused the production company millions and no doubt tank this movie and it would likely not have been made for many years. The utter disrespect and just overall gall is absurd.

I don’t totally disagree with some of what you say but to pretend this is about her disrespect of HIM after surprisingly trying to have her naked for the delivery scene and mansplaining to her (mother of 4) what a “normal woman” looked like in childbirth is a little much for me. The problems started with him.

Nobody mansplained anything to her. They were trying to direct a scene in the movie about a woman giving birth. They actually were not trying to coach Blake through her fourth birth.

If what you described is mansplaining, any female who has ever given birth in real life and gave birth in a movie, or has ever become a mom in real life and plays a mom in a movie, has been mansplained by a director. Let’s not act like all women are so fragile they can’t actually play a character.

Blake alleges that Baldoni said it was "not normal" for women to remain in a hospital gown while giving birth. This is both (1) wrong) and (2) mansplaining. He wasn't saying that he believed this particular character would be nude during childbirth (something that based on my understanding of the character, I also think is wrong -- she'd 100% be wearing a hospital gown), he was saying that women in general don't wear hospital gowns while giving birth. And he was basing this on his narrow experience of watching his own wife give birth, not on having done any research into common practices of women in childbirth. If he had done literally ANY research on the subject, like say talk to an L&D nurse in the same kind of hospital the character is supposed to be giving birth in, he would discover that it's incredibly normal for women to wear hospital gowns during birth. So, this is actually classic mansplaining.

Likewise, Heath is alleged to said, after Lively declined to watch the video of his wife's birth and asked him if his wife had given permission for him to show it, that his wife "isn't weird about this stuff." The "stuff" he's referring to is childbirth. The implication is that Lively was "weird" for not wanting to watch the birth video of another woman.

Also, Heath showed Lively the video AFTER they'd filmed the birth scene, and there is no indication that they had plans to re-shoot it. So it had nothing to do with directing her or telling her what they wanted in the birth scene. He just really wanted to show Lively a video of his wife giving birth for some reason.

Anyway, this is all classic mansplaining, a couple of men assuming a level of knowledge and expertise about a subject that the woman they are talking to actually has more firsthand experience with, and then lecturing her about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Folks, I want to share a secret with you.

Go to Google or your search engine of choice and type in the name of literally any movie and the words "gross" or "how much did it earn" or "how much did it cost to make" and you will get these numbers instantly. Like within seconds.

I thought most people knew that but apparently it is coming as a real surprise to some of you. You're welcome!

lol, exactly! This is what I did too but I guess The Google is magic to PP! Weird how they manage to find all the worst Lively stories and takes without The Google.

[Anonymous]

The take that Gerwig’s Barbie (starring Margot Robbie and Ryan Reynolds) is a good match up comparison film for IEWU is priceless. Keep digging that hole, PP!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was a clip of her standing on stage at the premiere in Copenhagen, clearly stating, “ this is not a movie about domestic violence.”

She wanted so badly to do a big Barbie like romcom. It’s very strange, her whole approach.

Also, someone shared footage of January 5, 2024, first day back on set after the strike, Ryan Reynolds just standing behind her as she filmed a scene. So weird that he was there.

These people live in their own reality.

It makes sense he was there at that point -- Lively was on record as feeling very uncomfortable about behavior on set and had refused to return to set unless precautions were taken to ensure cast safety. So it makes perfect sense that her husband would come hang out on the set both to make her feel more comfortable and as a witness to any problematic behavior.

Baldoni's wife was also on set a lot, and appears in the movie.

I disagree that it makes sense and I think people are really over justifying Reynolds role in this because she felt uncomfortable. Blake wanted to come into this film and have her ideas taken seriously, and keep saying she wants to produce and take charge, yet the very first thing her husband does is text the director and asked to delay production by two weeks so they could protect their family time. Seems very unprofessional to me.

Don’t get me started on all the meetings at their apartment with Ryan, which were incredibly unprofessional, especially the one where they blindsided Wayfair with the inappropriate behaviors list, which was not supposed to be a meeting about that at all, and Ryan screamed at him. Completely unprofessional and let’s call it what it is, harassment.

If Blake felt uncomfortable, she already had a Sony representative and she had a team of managers and lawyers. She did not need her husband coming on set acting as if that is in any way normal.

During the marketing of the film, when Blake was not going to get the final cut, her last threat was “any goodwill between us is gone.” This was in the summer of 2024. I find it puzzling that if she was so uncomfortable with Justin that she literally could not be on set without her husband standing behind her, that they had goodwill? Nothing about this adds up.

At times, she acts as if she is being harassed and has no power, at other times her behavior is bordering on harassment and she is playing every power card at her disposal. The timeline doesn’t add up she seems to switch back-and-forth. Having Ryan around so much really muddies the water given his power and his deep connections to Sony.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The take that Gerwig’s Barbie (starring Margot Robbie and Ryan Reynolds) is a good match up comparison film for IEWU is priceless. Keep digging that hole, PP!

Barbie did not at all star Ryan Reynolds, but go on…?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not linking to that giant comment, but the movie made over $350 million dollars! Everyone should be paying Blake Lively to help with the wardrobe on their movies going forward! Most movies like this are lucky to make $50 million, and $100 million would have been a huge success! The wardrobe stuff obviously created buzz that translated into ticket sales.

I’m just noting that the mean moms calling Lively fat are hypocrites, which I’m allowed to do, just like you’re allowed to focus on the parts of this saga that are boring to me. To each her own.

It would have made $500 million starring an actress with talent, who doesn't repel audiences and co-stars.

Movies centered on female characters and life experiences almost never gross $500 or more. The only recent one I can think of was Inside Out 2, which grossed $1.7b worldwide. But that's an animated movie, it was a sequel of a very popular first movie, and it had a G rating and a family focus. It also cost 200m to make, as opposed to 25m for IEWU. A movie rated PG-13, focused on a female lead, containing heavy themes including DV? No way. You could put the tippy top a-list actress in that role and it would never make that much. You can't get audiences to do see movies like that in those numbers.

For comparison:
The Girl on the Train, starring Emily Blunt, made $173.2m worldwide, on a $45m budget
Gone Girl, starring Ben Affleck and Rosamund Pike, made $168m worldwide, on a $61m budget

IEWU was a monster success, super cheap to make, and way, way, way outperformed expectations. Sorry.

You handpicked a few movies that that were average at best, leaving off a whole slew of female centered movies that have done ridiculously good. Barbie anyone? Pretty sure that grossed over 1 billion. Anna Kendrick movies alone have grossed over $400 billion. You really don’t know what you’re talking about.

I would argue gone girl was a Ben Affleck movie.

I didn't cherry pick movies -- I was looking for movies that centered on women and addressed serious issues. So I intentionally excluded comedies and romcoms, as well as musicals, because that's a different kind of movie and it tends to make more money. That's because audiences tend to like lighter movies and it's a harder sell to get audiences to buy tickets to watch a movie about domestic violence, alcoholism, etc., in the movie theater. So I chose two movies in recent years that are (1) about serious subjects, and (2) are largely about the female lead's experience. I also picked movies based on best selling books, since IEWU was also based on a best selling novel.

Agree Gone Girl really has co-leads, which is why I listed Affleck. But even that makes my point -- Ben Affleck is a huge star with a ton of box office pull, and that movie STILL didn't touch IEWU numbers. I would argue Gone Girl was darker than IEWU, so it's not a perfect match.

Anyway, you can't compare IEWU to Kendrick movies like Pitch Perfect or a Simple Favor (also starring Lively), though I'll note that neither of those movies made as much as IEWU. Pitch Perfect is Kendrick's highest grossing movie and it made $287m worldwide. A great showing but still less than IEWU. A Simple Favor made $97m. Again, a successful film and they were thrilled with that. Less than a third what IEWU made.

Could we just all agree that IEWU was a huge box office hit and move on? It was, especially considering the kind of movie it is. It's really not up for debate. It's hard to make more money than that with a theater release if you are making a movie that isn't a comedy or an action film, and even a lot of comedies and action films don't make that much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The take that Gerwig’s Barbie (starring Margot Robbie and Ryan Reynolds) is a good match up comparison film for IEWU is priceless. Keep digging that hole, PP!

Margie Robbie has done plenty of bombs. Her being in a movie doesn’t automatically mean it’s going to be a success. Anymore then Blake being in a movie means it’s going to be a success. Rhythm section was the biggest theatrical bomb in cinematic history. Blake starred.

It is a bit of a crapshoot. I think people wanted to see Blake in this film and showed up for it, but there were clearly other factors at play, I think that is the only point people are trying to make and not sure why we’re arguing about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The movie completely unexpectedly made $350 million dollars but “she screwed up” is a position I do not understand. $350 million with a no name director Lively and Slate being the only somewhat big names is a miracle. Everyone should be hiring BL and JB to feud through another movie tif they somehow banked $350m out of a romantic drama where the two leads break up and the family splits apart.

Love that you left off the Colleen Hoover factor here. The film only had a built-in fan base of tens of millions of people who couldn’t wait for it before Blake was even cast lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The take that Gerwig’s Barbie (starring Margot Robbie and Ryan Reynolds) is a good match up comparison film for IEWU is priceless. Keep digging that hole, PP!

Barbie did not at all star Ryan Reynolds, but go on…?

Right — the other, handsomer Ryan who made La La Land and can dance! Keep digging!