Super Bowl 59

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Anonymous wrote:They really need to stop it with the rap and hip hop artists. They just do not appeal to a mass audience, and I don't think they are young kid friendly, when the super bowl should be a family friendly event. I don't want my 5 year old watching something so intertwined with rape and violence, and I don't need to listen to some guy's petty personal feud with another rapper and calling out pedophilia. Why is it so hard to understand that none of this is appealing? People just want to be entertained and by happy for that one night.

My 70 old parents don't watch much football and don't know anything about modern music but they thoroughly enjoyed Lady Gaga's halftime show a few years back. Ever since then, their reactions are pretty much wtf am I watching. And no, they are not white.



Did they find the commercials with bad words appealing? I was not happy to hear cursing during the ads. I didn’t expect it so I couldn’t mute it in time so my kids heard the words

The rap? Unless you know the words how would you have been able to follow? I didn’t hear any bad words for that performance. I had already sent my kids to bed anyway but I didn’t hear any bad words in the rapper’s performance …but I did hear cursing on the commercials while my kids were watching…I wish people were more upset about that then a rapper reciting words that they
couldn’t understand. The outrage is interesting and backwards in my opinion.


Love the way Kendrick’s music usually includes the “N” word. Great message for my kids; just great.

Really irrelevant he scrubbed the Superbowl show of the “N” word last night because every tween and teen in America is looking up his N-word songs on YouTube this morning.

Again - great message, NFL.



Are your kids also looking up the words grab them by….spoken by our very own President? Are you at all concerned about the wonderful role model that he is? Please. You are trying so hard to justify why you are mad about the show. Simply say you didn’t like it and move on. Bringing the whole “save the kids” argument regarding the ht show that was performed last night is just silly and a reach.



So you are fine with the “N” word then, right?
Great! Glad we clarified that.

So you also agree your whole DEI-farce was just that: a farce; just more racism masquerading as virtue.



One of many problems. However, the show was just bad which is receiving a lot of blow back.


According to whom? The show's gotten great reviews from every one except maga. The WSJ even gave it a great review!


Exactly, I’ve seen mixed reviews – people that are only seeing one side are clearly functioning in an echo chamber.


The divided American flag was a great symbol is the show. Two different sides drifting farther apart by the day into our own echo chambers.


The revolution will be televised. Right moment, wrong guy.


Protest entertainment at its best. MAGA hating it just adds to the brilliance.
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Anonymous wrote:Why no white people in his performance? I did notice this since we have all been conditioned to notice when diversity is lacking. Other than that, show was ok. Plenty of other black artists that would have appealed to more people. But he won a couple Grammys so there’s that.



Why is it only white people that you care about having included in the performance? This country has other races. Really think about that pp. I know you have been conditioned to think of only black and white people but there are SO many more people that belong to other races in this country besides those two races. Also ask yourself if you would be bothered or asking the same question had the show been all white? I am not coming down on you, just want to give you some food for thought.


DP.

Why is it diversity only works one way?

Do you seriously believe if the halftime show had been as large, but all-white instead of all-BIPOC, there would not have been demands for DIVERSITY ?

Where is your DEI now, PP ?


I don’t follow.


This poster wanted white acts and backup dancers. Strange - does DEi bring us more talent or force us to hire subpar folks? This poster likely thinks b so I don’t know why he wants subpar acts/dancers at the Super Bowl.


It's not a white or black issue. The issue is having a good show which once again they failed to produce.


I honestly wonder if the budgets have been cut back on the shows. I liked the performance, but we aren’t seeing massive spectacles with intense sets any more like the Katy Perry or the Lady Gaga show. The artists don’t get paid but the NFL pays for the production.

The sponsorship changed from Pepsi to Apple Music a few years back, that may have something to do with it.
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Anonymous wrote:Must read about Kendrick Lamar. People really fail to understand his reach and intelligence:

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/kendrick-lamar-super-bowl-halftime-show-rcna191319


You're using msnbc, lol. No thank you, but KL is no rocket scientist by any means.


He’s won a Pulitzer and 22 Grammies so he’s light years ahead of you.


Do you mean Grammys? That's not associated with I.Q. btw. That doesn't matter, he still didn't put on a good show. Furthermore, the halftime should not be about politics.


Everything is about politics you fool. Play or get played.
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Anonymous wrote:Must read about Kendrick Lamar. People really fail to understand his reach and intelligence:

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/kendrick-lamar-super-bowl-halftime-show-rcna191319


You're using msnbc, lol. No thank you, but KL is no rocket scientist by any means.


He’s won a Pulitzer and 22 Grammies so he’s light years ahead of you.


Do you mean Grammys? That's not associated with I.Q. btw. That doesn't matter, he still didn't put on a good show. Furthermore, the halftime should not be about politics.


Everything is about politics you fool. Play or get played.


You prove why the Dems lost. Most are tired of it in sports and yes the Superbowl.
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Anonymous wrote:They really need to stop it with the rap and hip hop artists. They just do not appeal to a mass audience, and I don't think they are young kid friendly, when the super bowl should be a family friendly event. I don't want my 5 year old watching something so intertwined with rape and violence, and I don't need to listen to some guy's petty personal feud with another rapper and calling out pedophilia. Why is it so hard to understand that none of this is appealing? People just want to be entertained and by happy for that one night.

My 70 old parents don't watch much football and don't know anything about modern music but they thoroughly enjoyed Lady Gaga's halftime show a few years back. Ever since then, their reactions are pretty much wtf am I watching. And no, they are not white.



Did they find the commercials with bad words appealing? I was not happy to hear cursing during the ads. I didn’t expect it so I couldn’t mute it in time so my kids heard the words

The rap? Unless you know the words how would you have been able to follow? I didn’t hear any bad words for that performance. I had already sent my kids to bed anyway but I didn’t hear any bad words in the rapper’s performance …but I did hear cursing on the commercials while my kids were watching…I wish people were more upset about that then a rapper reciting words that they
couldn’t understand. The outrage is interesting and backwards in my opinion.


Love the way Kendrick’s music usually includes the “N” word. Great message for my kids; just great.

Really irrelevant he scrubbed the Superbowl show of the “N” word last night because every tween and teen in America is looking up his N-word songs on YouTube this morning.

Again - great message, NFL.



Are your kids also looking up the words grab them by….spoken by our very own President? Are you at all concerned about the wonderful role model that he is? Please. You are trying so hard to justify why you are mad about the show. Simply say you didn’t like it and move on. Bringing the whole “save the kids” argument regarding the ht show that was performed last night is just silly and a reach.



So you are fine with the “N” word then, right?
Great! Glad we clarified that.

So you also agree your whole DEI-farce was just that: a farce; just more racism masquerading as virtue.



One of many problems. However, the show was just bad which is receiving a lot of blow back.


According to whom? The show's gotten great reviews from every one except maga. The WSJ even gave it a great review!


Exactly, I’ve seen mixed reviews – people that are only seeing one side are clearly functioning in an echo chamber.


The divided American flag was a great symbol is the show. Two different sides drifting farther apart by the day into our own echo chambers.


The revolution will be televised. Right moment, wrong guy.


Protest entertainment at its best. MAGA hating it just adds to the brilliance.


How do you come up with MAGA lol. No, many simply didn't like it. It was a lazy production with bad sound.
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Anonymous wrote:There was a lot of symbolism that probably went over MAGA because they are simple minded, but here are some:


⁠"clown car" at the beginning with the people coming out in red, white and blue

Samuel L Jackson as Uncle Sam chastising the black man for being too loud, noisy, and ghetto and praising him for being calm and quiet later on.

at one point there were only female dancers, all dressed in red. I think this was referencing handmaid's tale

Kendrick said "the revolution will be televised. But you picked the wrong guy"

"Turn off the TV"

The American flag was divided

⁠at one point there were dancers in white laying on the floor like they had been shot. Almost looked like those chalk drawings on crime shows


I’m not MAGA but I didn’t get all the symbolism either. I knew it was against America.

Someone said it also showed America was built on the backs of black people. I disagree.
Black people can hoop and holler all they want about this but if you don’t come out and vote, you get what we got. A racist in the White House and his racist buddies running three country. Democrats may not do as much as blacks would want, but at least they try.

Thank you for the explanation on the half time show.


Black people are 12 percent of the population and overwhelmingly voted democrat, what are you talking about?


More blacks came out in 2020 and voted for Biden. The numbers were not there for Kamala.
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Anonymous wrote:Must read about Kendrick Lamar. People really fail to understand his reach and intelligence:

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/kendrick-lamar-super-bowl-halftime-show-rcna191319


You're using msnbc, lol. No thank you, but KL is no rocket scientist by any means.


He’s won a Pulitzer and 22 Grammies so he’s light years ahead of you.


Do you mean Grammys? That's not associated with I.Q. btw. That doesn't matter, he still didn't put on a good show. Furthermore, the halftime should not be about politics.


Everything is about politics you fool. Play or get played.


You prove why the Dems lost. Most are tired of it in sports and yes the Superbowl.


We are tired of it everywhere, but that's how it is. People thinking there is a safe time to not be political is naive, that goes for all political parties. They want you to be naive.
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Anonymous wrote:There was a lot of symbolism that probably went over MAGA because they are simple minded, but here are some:


⁠"clown car" at the beginning with the people coming out in red, white and blue

Samuel L Jackson as Uncle Sam chastising the black man for being too loud, noisy, and ghetto and praising him for being calm and quiet later on.

at one point there were only female dancers, all dressed in red. I think this was referencing handmaid's tale

Kendrick said "the revolution will be televised. But you picked the wrong guy"

"Turn off the TV"

The American flag was divided

⁠at one point there were dancers in white laying on the floor like they had been shot. Almost looked like those chalk drawings on crime shows


I’m not MAGA but I didn’t get all the symbolism either. I knew it was against America.

Someone said it also showed America was built on the backs of black people. I disagree.
Black people can hoop and holler all they want about this but if you don’t come out and vote, you get what we got. A racist in the White House and his racist buddies running three country. Democrats may not do as much as blacks would want, but at least they try.

Thank you for the explanation on the half time show.


Look up seven generations healing and try to understand what generational healing is. This wasn’t just about broken brain maga. It was a celebration of culture.

Black voters work harder than many to make to the polls and struggle through really ridiculous obstacles Election Day.


I found it utterly beautiful.





- GenX perimenopausal Caucasian Lady.


More blacks came out in 2020 and voted for Biden. The numbers were not there for Kamala.

And agree, laws have come about to make it difficult for blacks and minorities to vote. BUT they need to come out for EVERY election, local, state and federal. Otherwise those laws will never change.
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Anonymous wrote:This is the best summary of the performance that I have read:

“Kendrick told the story of Black male unadulterated authenticity. The iconography alone was brilliant.

Black men in durags.
Black men in formation of the American flag.
Black men in dreads, and golds singing du wop.
Black men not presented in a safe lense.

Samuel L. Jackson AKA “Uncle Sam” (The Ring Master), it was at that moment, the characters were set. Samuel represents the “Safe, Performative, Docile” negro. He’s pleading with him to make white America comfortable. Kendrick is clearly the antithesis of that.

Kendrick is clearly in a defiant mood and performs squabble up.

Uncle Sam responds by screaming at him to “Stop being so loud and ghetto!”

Kendrick responds by playing “Humble”
‘Be humble, sit down’. It’s noticeable that Black men are the American flag as he performs this acquiescence.

Then he remembers himself plays “DNA”.
“Royalty & Loyalty in my DNA”

This is when the crowd lights up with the message “Warning, wrong way”

Then he plays Euphoria. Cries out… “I’m reaping what I sow, okay?!!”

Transitioning into “Man in the Garden” where he recites how he deserves it all….the success and the criticism that comes with it. In the midst of it all trying to remain authentic.….hence why Samuel L. Jackson says….

“Oh I see you brought your Homeboys with you. Score keeper deduct one life!”

K Dot then leans into album favorite Peakaboo…I think it’s important to note the line that embodies that song “What they talking about, they talking about nuthin…”. His defiance is evident, even as he realizes the fakeness of it all.

At this point he ushers in SZA and embarks on what Uncle Sam lauds him for performing nice and easy “This is what America wants to see….”

Kendrick smiles in the camera and plays the controversial song that garnered him acclaim….with Record & Song of the year….so the question is….isn’t this what America wanted?!?

Not Like Us is performed. Including the verse that has ruined Drake’s entire life.

He then ends with TV off. With the message being

“Game Over”

Essentially telling us the ‘Game’ that he was expected to play…is over….he didn’t do what was expected…and yet he sort of did.

He literally told us before NLU was performed that “This is Bigger than the music” and I have people on the timeline arguing about the music.

Truth be told. This performance may not be everyone’s cup of tea. That’s okay. I believe a message was sent to make people, particularly white America uncomfortable. Not an easily digestible show.

He was reclaiming the idea of Black male identity on a white stage. He did that tenfold. In the face of Uncle Sam, in the face of the sitting President who attempted to use Black men to divide our race-in which he was mildly successful in that. Kendrick addressed this with only a subtle gesture of someone who thinks before he speaks.

I appreciate a show that required me to focus in and peel back what was being done.

He told you that the revolution will be televised. You picked the right time. But the wrong guy. He meant that.

Special shout out to Serena Williams who made a special appearance, crip walking- an obvious nod to when she did this after a victory and was immediately lambasted by media for being “To Ghetto, Too Black”. Obviously Serena being from the same neighborhood of Kendrick and also shot at Drake.”


Biggest problem was trying to understand what he was even saying. And the CC couldn’t keep up with him so the message and the symbolism didn’t match up.
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Anonymous wrote:They really need to stop it with the rap and hip hop artists. They just do not appeal to a mass audience, and I don't think they are young kid friendly, when the super bowl should be a family friendly event. I don't want my 5 year old watching something so intertwined with rape and violence, and I don't need to listen to some guy's petty personal feud with another rapper and calling out pedophilia. Why is it so hard to understand that none of this is appealing? People just want to be entertained and by happy for that one night.

My 70 old parents don't watch much football and don't know anything about modern music but they thoroughly enjoyed Lady Gaga's halftime show a few years back. Ever since then, their reactions are pretty much wtf am I watching. And no, they are not white.



Did they find the commercials with bad words appealing? I was not happy to hear cursing during the ads. I didn’t expect it so I couldn’t mute it in time so my kids heard the words

The rap? Unless you know the words how would you have been able to follow? I didn’t hear any bad words for that performance. I had already sent my kids to bed anyway but I didn’t hear any bad words in the rapper’s performance …but I did hear cursing on the commercials while my kids were watching…I wish people were more upset about that then a rapper reciting words that they
couldn’t understand. The outrage is interesting and backwards in my opinion.


Love the way Kendrick’s music usually includes the “N” word. Great message for my kids; just great.

Really irrelevant he scrubbed the Superbowl show of the “N” word last night because every tween and teen in America is looking up his N-word songs on YouTube this morning.

Again - great message, NFL.


I guarantee your kids hear that word every day without having to look up KL lyrics. Unclutch.


True. But if you don’t want non-POC to use it then don’t use it yourself. Make it disappear from everyone’s vocabulary.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m just watching it for the liberal meltdown that will come after the cheers for Trump overtake the stadium.


Well that didn’t happen - lotta boos and crude finger gestures towards his box window doe - despite Fix News continuing its propaganda about how well liked DT is


No those were saved for Taylor. DT is well liked, why he also won the popular vote. Nice try.


Again, he did not win the popular vote. If he had it would be over 50% of the votes. He got 49.8%. The other three candidates together got the remaining 50.2% of votes.


Trumps popular win vote was the first in 20 years for Republicans fyi.


Again, didn’t get half of America to vote for him.
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Fans are so disappointed with Lamar’s performance.
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Anonymous wrote:They really need to stop it with the rap and hip hop artists. They just do not appeal to a mass audience, and I don't think they are young kid friendly, when the super bowl should be a family friendly event. I don't want my 5 year old watching something so intertwined with rape and violence, and I don't need to listen to some guy's petty personal feud with another rapper and calling out pedophilia. Why is it so hard to understand that none of this is appealing? People just want to be entertained and by happy for that one night.

My 70 old parents don't watch much football and don't know anything about modern music but they thoroughly enjoyed Lady Gaga's halftime show a few years back. Ever since then, their reactions are pretty much wtf am I watching. And no, they are not white.



Did they find the commercials with bad words appealing? I was not happy to hear cursing during the ads. I didn’t expect it so I couldn’t mute it in time so my kids heard the words

The rap? Unless you know the words how would you have been able to follow? I didn’t hear any bad words for that performance. I had already sent my kids to bed anyway but I didn’t hear any bad words in the rapper’s performance …but I did hear cursing on the commercials while my kids were watching…I wish people were more upset about that then a rapper reciting words that they
couldn’t understand. The outrage is interesting and backwards in my opinion.


Love the way Kendrick’s music usually includes the “N” word. Great message for my kids; just great.

Really irrelevant he scrubbed the Superbowl show of the “N” word last night because every tween and teen in America is looking up his N-word songs on YouTube this morning.

Again - great message, NFL.


I guarantee your kids hear that word every day without having to look up KL lyrics. Unclutch.


True. But if you don’t want non-POC to use it then don’t use it yourself. Make it disappear from everyone’s vocabulary.


No, it’s very easy to explain to white kids that this is not our word to use. You don’t get to police when and how black people use it.
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Anonymous wrote:They really need to stop it with the rap and hip hop artists. They just do not appeal to a mass audience, and I don't think they are young kid friendly, when the super bowl should be a family friendly event. I don't want my 5 year old watching something so intertwined with rape and violence, and I don't need to listen to some guy's petty personal feud with another rapper and calling out pedophilia. Why is it so hard to understand that none of this is appealing? People just want to be entertained and by happy for that one night.

My 70 old parents don't watch much football and don't know anything about modern music but they thoroughly enjoyed Lady Gaga's halftime show a few years back. Ever since then, their reactions are pretty much wtf am I watching. And no, they are not white.



Did they find the commercials with bad words appealing? I was not happy to hear cursing during the ads. I didn’t expect it so I couldn’t mute it in time so my kids heard the words

The rap? Unless you know the words how would you have been able to follow? I didn’t hear any bad words for that performance. I had already sent my kids to bed anyway but I didn’t hear any bad words in the rapper’s performance …but I did hear cursing on the commercials while my kids were watching…I wish people were more upset about that then a rapper reciting words that they
couldn’t understand. The outrage is interesting and backwards in my opinion.


Love the way Kendrick’s music usually includes the “N” word. Great message for my kids; just great.

Really irrelevant he scrubbed the Superbowl show of the “N” word last night because every tween and teen in America is looking up his N-word songs on YouTube this morning.

Again - great message, NFL.


I guarantee your kids hear that word every day without having to look up KL lyrics. Unclutch.


True. But if you don’t want non-POC to use it then don’t use it yourself. Make it disappear from everyone’s vocabulary.

This is a dumb train of thought.
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Anonymous wrote:Fans are so disappointed with Lamar’s performance.

You mean fans of maga?
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