Capitol Hill families - If you moved to NW or burbs for school, do you have any regrets?

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Anonymous wrote:The answer to this question is: move to Glover Park. You get the walkability (or close to it) of Capitol Hill, without the downsides of crime. You avoid long commutes from the boring suburbs. And you don't have to worry about school quality.

I'm not buying any of this. Last time I checked, Glover Park isn't short on crime because DC isn't. We have friends there whose house was broken into a few months ago. Don't have to worry about school qualify for Hardy or MacArthur? Ridiculous. I'm told that the seriously incompetent Hardy principal was pushed out a month before the end of this past school year, by....furious parents.

PP, if you don't want to live in the city, you don't have to live in the city. I gather you don't, and it sounds like you wouldn't want to. That's OK - this post is not for you.

But if you want to live in the city, but not worry as much about crime and schools as you would on Capitol Hill, and don't want to live in a suburb, then Glover Park is a nice option for you.

It does not have zero crime (nowhere does!) Its schools aren't perfect (nowhere does! just check out the complaints on this board about the MoCo schools!). But Glover Park is a pretty great place to live. It does not have all of the upsides of Capitol Hill - but it also does not have the two big downsides (crime and bad schools) either.

Bizarre response. We've lived on CH Hill for almost 30 years and don't worry about crime day to day.

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Anonymous wrote:No, 2 kids to Brent, 8 years each. They walked to school together without parents from when eldest was in 3rd grade, from East Cap. We took the self-release-walk-home-independently option for them at school for 4th and 5th, like many other families in their peer groups. We gave them whistles, reflective vests and LED lights for helmets and on bikes and scooters and watch phones to call or 911 us if need be. We taught them to cross streets safely and to be aware of their surroundings. The youngest just graduated in May. Never had any kind of problem in all weather.

Well, this is great for you, but very few parents would be comfortable doing this. I say that as a Hill resident.

+1, I live on the Hill with no intention of leaving and no one I know does this. I do think there is an older cohort of parents whose kids were/are more free range, but the culture has changed. Newer families moving to the Hill are higher income, more likely to have nannies even once their kids are school age (also lots of people with family living with them or nearby), and their kids don't do this. The old guard on the Hill was more likely to be dual feds or even one fed, one SAHP, Gen X hippies/hipsters where having more free range kids in the city made sense to them. Newer folks are more risk averse.

It's a cultural shift that I think the PP, whose kids are clearly now older, may not realize it's happened because they don't socialize with the people who now have kids in elementary. This Hill is less free range now.

I'm one of the older parents. If what you're saying is true, that makes me really sad. What is the point of living in CH if your kids can't walk to school/the park/to their friends' house?

I know that CH people love to look down on upper NW but AU Park has this in spades - many kids start walking on their own to Janney in 4th or 5th grade. And they can easily walk to the park, library, ice cream, friends houses, etc. And middle and hs kids take the bus or metro or bike to Georgetown, Bethesda, Dupont, or even a Nats game

Great, please give me $1.5 mil so I can move from the Hill to AU Park. Sounds nice!

Do glover park instead. you have all the same things and similar schools, but prices in Glover Park are very similar to Cap Hill, as is the housing stock.

again, no - the Hill is cheaper. I don’t see anything under $1 mil in Glover Park. And of course many of us have 3% mortgages too.

Fair point about the 3% rate, but this is just a block from Glover Park: https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/3719-S-St-NW-20007/home/9935956

That house is an outdated dump. For something decent in Glover Park, you are probably paying $1.2 million. The reason the Hill is cheaper is because of schools and crime.

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Anonymous wrote:The answer to this question is: move to Glover Park. You get the walkability (or close to it) of Capitol Hill, without the downsides of crime. You avoid long commutes from the boring suburbs. And you don't have to worry about school quality.

I'm not buying any of this. Last time I checked, Glover Park isn't short on crime because DC isn't. We have friends there whose house was broken into a few months ago. Don't have to worry about school qualify for Hardy or MacArthur? Ridiculous. I'm told that the seriously incompetent Hardy principal was pushed out a month before the end of this past school year, by....furious parents.

PP, if you don't want to live in the city, you don't have to live in the city. I gather you don't, and it sounds like you wouldn't want to. That's OK - this post is not for you.

But if you want to live in the city, but not worry as much about crime and schools as you would on Capitol Hill, and don't want to live in a suburb, then Glover Park is a nice option for you.

It does not have zero crime (nowhere does!) Its schools aren't perfect (nowhere does! just check out the complaints on this board about the MoCo schools!). But Glover Park is a pretty great place to live. It does not have all of the upsides of Capitol Hill - but it also does not have the two big downsides (crime and bad schools) either.

Bizarre response. We've lived on CH Hill for almost 30 years and don't worry about crime day to day.

PP, crime is lower in Glover Park than it is on the Hill. I love the Hill, but that's an objective fact.

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Anonymous wrote:No, 2 kids to Brent, 8 years each. They walked to school together without parents from when eldest was in 3rd grade, from East Cap. We took the self-release-walk-home-independently option for them at school for 4th and 5th, like many other families in their peer groups. We gave them whistles, reflective vests and LED lights for helmets and on bikes and scooters and watch phones to call or 911 us if need be. We taught them to cross streets safely and to be aware of their surroundings. The youngest just graduated in May. Never had any kind of problem in all weather.

Well, this is great for you, but very few parents would be comfortable doing this. I say that as a Hill resident.

+1, I live on the Hill with no intention of leaving and no one I know does this. I do think there is an older cohort of parents whose kids were/are more free range, but the culture has changed. Newer families moving to the Hill are higher income, more likely to have nannies even once their kids are school age (also lots of people with family living with them or nearby), and their kids don't do this. The old guard on the Hill was more likely to be dual feds or even one fed, one SAHP, Gen X hippies/hipsters where having more free range kids in the city made sense to them. Newer folks are more risk averse.

It's a cultural shift that I think the PP, whose kids are clearly now older, may not realize it's happened because they don't socialize with the people who now have kids in elementary. This Hill is less free range now.

I'm one of the older parents. If what you're saying is true, that makes me really sad. What is the point of living in CH if your kids can't walk to school/the park/to their friends' house?

I know that CH people love to look down on upper NW but AU Park has this in spades - many kids start walking on their own to Janney in 4th or 5th grade. And they can easily walk to the park, library, ice cream, friends houses, etc. And middle and hs kids take the bus or metro or bike to Georgetown, Bethesda, Dupont, or even a Nats game

Great, please give me $1.5 mil so I can move from the Hill to AU Park. Sounds nice!

Do glover park instead. you have all the same things and similar schools, but prices in Glover Park are very similar to Cap Hill, as is the housing stock.

again, no - the Hill is cheaper. I don’t see anything under $1 mil in Glover Park. And of course many of us have 3% mortgages too.

Fair point about the 3% rate, but this is just a block from Glover Park: https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/3719-S-St-NW-20007/home/9935956

that’s like the only one under $1 mil on the market …

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Anonymous wrote:No, 2 kids to Brent, 8 years each. They walked to school together without parents from when eldest was in 3rd grade, from East Cap. We took the self-release-walk-home-independently option for them at school for 4th and 5th, like many other families in their peer groups. We gave them whistles, reflective vests and LED lights for helmets and on bikes and scooters and watch phones to call or 911 us if need be. We taught them to cross streets safely and to be aware of their surroundings. The youngest just graduated in May. Never had any kind of problem in all weather.

Well, this is great for you, but very few parents would be comfortable doing this. I say that as a Hill resident.

+1, I live on the Hill with no intention of leaving and no one I know does this. I do think there is an older cohort of parents whose kids were/are more free range, but the culture has changed. Newer families moving to the Hill are higher income, more likely to have nannies even once their kids are school age (also lots of people with family living with them or nearby), and their kids don't do this. The old guard on the Hill was more likely to be dual feds or even one fed, one SAHP, Gen X hippies/hipsters where having more free range kids in the city made sense to them. Newer folks are more risk averse.

It's a cultural shift that I think the PP, whose kids are clearly now older, may not realize it's happened because they don't socialize with the people who now have kids in elementary. This Hill is less free range now.

I'm one of the older parents. If what you're saying is true, that makes me really sad. What is the point of living in CH if your kids can't walk to school/the park/to their friends' house?

I know that CH people love to look down on upper NW but AU Park has this in spades - many kids start walking on their own to Janney in 4th or 5th grade. And they can easily walk to the park, library, ice cream, friends houses, etc. And middle and hs kids take the bus or metro or bike to Georgetown, Bethesda, Dupont, or even a Nats game

Great, please give me $1.5 mil so I can move from the Hill to AU Park. Sounds nice!

Do glover park instead. you have all the same things and similar schools, but prices in Glover Park are very similar to Cap Hill, as is the housing stock.

again, no - the Hill is cheaper. I don’t see anything under $1 mil in Glover Park. And of course many of us have 3% mortgages too.

Fair point about the 3% rate, but this is just a block from Glover Park: https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/3719-S-St-NW-20007/home/9935956

That house is an outdated dump. For something decent in Glover Park, you are probably paying $1.2 million. The reason the Hill is cheaper is because of schools and crime.

The Hill has more small houses that you can fit into with 2 kids somewhat affordably if a bit crowded, but with some creativity, people manage.

Glover Park has more cheap 2br condos, but with condo fees and poor appreciation, it’s not really an even trade.

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Anonymous wrote:The answer to this question is: move to Glover Park. You get the walkability (or close to it) of Capitol Hill, without the downsides of crime. You avoid long commutes from the boring suburbs. And you don't have to worry about school quality.

I'm not buying any of this. Last time I checked, Glover Park isn't short on crime because DC isn't. We have friends there whose house was broken into a few months ago. Don't have to worry about school qualify for Hardy or MacArthur? Ridiculous. I'm told that the seriously incompetent Hardy principal was pushed out a month before the end of this past school year, by....furious parents.

PP, if you don't want to live in the city, you don't have to live in the city. I gather you don't, and it sounds like you wouldn't want to. That's OK - this post is not for you.

But if you want to live in the city, but not worry as much about crime and schools as you would on Capitol Hill, and don't want to live in a suburb, then Glover Park is a nice option for you.

It does not have zero crime (nowhere does!) Its schools aren't perfect (nowhere does! just check out the complaints on this board about the MoCo schools!). But Glover Park is a pretty great place to live. It does not have all of the upsides of Capitol Hill - but it also does not have the two big downsides (crime and bad schools) either.

Bizarre response. We've lived on CH Hill for almost 30 years and don't worry about crime day to day.

PP, crime is lower in Glover Park than it is on the Hill. I love the Hill, but that's an objective fact.

absolutely true. the lower crime is a big reason Glover Park is appealing (I am the PP staying put on the Hill for EH.)

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Anonymous wrote:No, 2 kids to Brent, 8 years each. They walked to school together without parents from when eldest was in 3rd grade, from East Cap. We took the self-release-walk-home-independently option for them at school for 4th and 5th, like many other families in their peer groups. We gave them whistles, reflective vests and LED lights for helmets and on bikes and scooters and watch phones to call or 911 us if need be. We taught them to cross streets safely and to be aware of their surroundings. The youngest just graduated in May. Never had any kind of problem in all weather.

Well, this is great for you, but very few parents would be comfortable doing this. I say that as a Hill resident.

+1, I live on the Hill with no intention of leaving and no one I know does this. I do think there is an older cohort of parents whose kids were/are more free range, but the culture has changed. Newer families moving to the Hill are higher income, more likely to have nannies even once their kids are school age (also lots of people with family living with them or nearby), and their kids don't do this. The old guard on the Hill was more likely to be dual feds or even one fed, one SAHP, Gen X hippies/hipsters where having more free range kids in the city made sense to them. Newer folks are more risk averse.

It's a cultural shift that I think the PP, whose kids are clearly now older, may not realize it's happened because they don't socialize with the people who now have kids in elementary. This Hill is less free range now.

I'm one of the older parents. If what you're saying is true, that makes me really sad. What is the point of living in CH if your kids can't walk to school/the park/to their friends' house?

I know that CH people love to look down on upper NW but AU Park has this in spades - many kids start walking on their own to Janney in 4th or 5th grade. And they can easily walk to the park, library, ice cream, friends houses, etc. And middle and hs kids take the bus or metro or bike to Georgetown, Bethesda, Dupont, or even a Nats game

Great, please give me $1.5 mil so I can move from the Hill to AU Park. Sounds nice!

Do glover park instead. you have all the same things and similar schools, but prices in Glover Park are very similar to Cap Hill, as is the housing stock.

again, no - the Hill is cheaper. I don’t see anything under $1 mil in Glover Park. And of course many of us have 3% mortgages too.

Fair point about the 3% rate, but this is just a block from Glover Park: https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/3719-S-St-NW-20007/home/9935956

That house is an outdated dump. For something decent in Glover Park, you are probably paying $1.2 million. The reason the Hill is cheaper is because of schools and crime.

The Hill has more small houses that you can fit into with 2 kids somewhat affordably if a bit crowded, but with some creativity, people manage.

Glover Park has more cheap 2br condos, but with condo fees and poor appreciation, it’s not really an even trade.

Agreed, and one solution for Capitol Hill families is to rent out their house for a few years, rent a condo in Glover Park while their kid is in middle school, and then, once they graduate from Hardy and can attend MacArthur HS, they can move back to their house on Capitol Hill.

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Anonymous wrote:The answer to this question is: move to Glover Park. You get the walkability (or close to it) of Capitol Hill, without the downsides of crime. You avoid long commutes from the boring suburbs. And you don't have to worry about school quality.

I'm not buying any of this. Last time I checked, Glover Park isn't short on crime because DC isn't. We have friends there whose house was broken into a few months ago. Don't have to worry about school qualify for Hardy or MacArthur? Ridiculous. I'm told that the seriously incompetent Hardy principal was pushed out a month before the end of this past school year, by....furious parents.

PP, if you don't want to live in the city, you don't have to live in the city. I gather you don't, and it sounds like you wouldn't want to. That's OK - this post is not for you.

But if you want to live in the city, but not worry as much about crime and schools as you would on Capitol Hill, and don't want to live in a suburb, then Glover Park is a nice option for you.

It does not have zero crime (nowhere does!) Its schools aren't perfect (nowhere does! just check out the complaints on this board about the MoCo schools!). But Glover Park is a pretty great place to live. It does not have all of the upsides of Capitol Hill - but it also does not have the two big downsides (crime and bad schools) either.

Bizarre response. We've lived on CH Hill for almost 30 years and don't worry about crime day to day.

Same.

Who are these people posting?

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Anonymous wrote:No, 2 kids to Brent, 8 years each. They walked to school together without parents from when eldest was in 3rd grade, from East Cap. We took the self-release-walk-home-independently option for them at school for 4th and 5th, like many other families in their peer groups. We gave them whistles, reflective vests and LED lights for helmets and on bikes and scooters and watch phones to call or 911 us if need be. We taught them to cross streets safely and to be aware of their surroundings. The youngest just graduated in May. Never had any kind of problem in all weather.

Well, this is great for you, but very few parents would be comfortable doing this. I say that as a Hill resident.

+1, I live on the Hill with no intention of leaving and no one I know does this. I do think there is an older cohort of parents whose kids were/are more free range, but the culture has changed. Newer families moving to the Hill are higher income, more likely to have nannies even once their kids are school age (also lots of people with family living with them or nearby), and their kids don't do this. The old guard on the Hill was more likely to be dual feds or even one fed, one SAHP, Gen X hippies/hipsters where having more free range kids in the city made sense to them. Newer folks are more risk averse.

It's a cultural shift that I think the PP, whose kids are clearly now older, may not realize it's happened because they don't socialize with the people who now have kids in elementary. This Hill is less free range now.

I'm one of the older parents. If what you're saying is true, that makes me really sad. What is the point of living in CH if your kids can't walk to school/the park/to their friends' house?

I know that CH people love to look down on upper NW but AU Park has this in spades - many kids start walking on their own to Janney in 4th or 5th grade. And they can easily walk to the park, library, ice cream, friends houses, etc. And middle and hs kids take the bus or metro or bike to Georgetown, Bethesda, Dupont, or even a Nats game

Great, please give me $1.5 mil so I can move from the Hill to AU Park. Sounds nice!

Do glover park instead. you have all the same things and similar schools, but prices in Glover Park are very similar to Cap Hill, as is the housing stock.

again, no - the Hill is cheaper. I don’t see anything under $1 mil in Glover Park. And of course many of us have 3% mortgages too.

Fair point about the 3% rate, but this is just a block from Glover Park: https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/3719-S-St-NW-20007/home/9935956

That house is an outdated dump. For something decent in Glover Park, you are probably paying $1.2 million. The reason the Hill is cheaper is because of schools and crime.

A decent house in CH costs about the same if not more.

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Anonymous wrote:The answer to this question is: move to Glover Park. You get the walkability (or close to it) of Capitol Hill, without the downsides of crime. You avoid long commutes from the boring suburbs. And you don't have to worry about school quality.

I'm not buying any of this. Last time I checked, Glover Park isn't short on crime because DC isn't. We have friends there whose house was broken into a few months ago. Don't have to worry about school qualify for Hardy or MacArthur? Ridiculous. I'm told that the seriously incompetent Hardy principal was pushed out a month before the end of this past school year, by....furious parents.

PP, if you don't want to live in the city, you don't have to live in the city. I gather you don't, and it sounds like you wouldn't want to. That's OK - this post is not for you.

But if you want to live in the city, but not worry as much about crime and schools as you would on Capitol Hill, and don't want to live in a suburb, then Glover Park is a nice option for you.

It does not have zero crime (nowhere does!) Its schools aren't perfect (nowhere does! just check out the complaints on this board about the MoCo schools!). But Glover Park is a pretty great place to live. It does not have all of the upsides of Capitol Hill - but it also does not have the two big downsides (crime and bad schools) either.

Bizarre response. We've lived on CH Hill for almost 30 years and don't worry about crime day to day.

Same.

Who are these people posting?

They're making the Brent District sound like the Bronx in the 80s. What's with the misinformation campaign?

We haven't been mugged or carjacked on the Hill SE in 20 years!

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Anonymous wrote:The answer to this question is: move to Glover Park. You get the walkability (or close to it) of Capitol Hill, without the downsides of crime. You avoid long commutes from the boring suburbs. And you don't have to worry about school quality.

"Walkability" is doing a whole lot of heavy lifting here. Yeah, you can walk to Sroddert, but the western half of the neighborhood is not a fun walk to the commercial area. And the public transportation options in CP are pretty lacking.

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Anonymous wrote:The answer to this question is: move to Glover Park. You get the walkability (or close to it) of Capitol Hill, without the downsides of crime. You avoid long commutes from the boring suburbs. And you don't have to worry about school quality.

I'm not buying any of this. Last time I checked, Glover Park isn't short on crime because DC isn't. We have friends there whose house was broken into a few months ago. Don't have to worry about school qualify for Hardy or MacArthur? Ridiculous. I'm told that the seriously incompetent Hardy principal was pushed out a month before the end of this past school year, by....furious parents.

PP, if you don't want to live in the city, you don't have to live in the city. I gather you don't, and it sounds like you wouldn't want to. That's OK - this post is not for you.

But if you want to live in the city, but not worry as much about crime and schools as you would on Capitol Hill, and don't want to live in a suburb, then Glover Park is a nice option for you.

It does not have zero crime (nowhere does!) Its schools aren't perfect (nowhere does! just check out the complaints on this board about the MoCo schools!). But Glover Park is a pretty great place to live. It does not have all of the upsides of Capitol Hill - but it also does not have the two big downsides (crime and bad schools) either.

Bizarre response. We've lived on CH Hill for almost 30 years and don't worry about crime day to day.

Same.

Who are these people posting?

They're making the Brent District sound like the Bronx in the 80s. What's with the misinformation campaign?

We haven't been mugged or carjacked on the Hill SE in 20 years!

Take a look at the crime reports near you and you will start worrying about crime day to day. Charles Allen doesn’t like to talk about it. He puts his head in the sand when it comes to crime. You really should be getting in and out of your car quickly and be aware of your surroundings at all times. If you see people in masks, cross the street. Yes, I’m stereotyping but I know several people who have been the victim of crime by masked individuals. There’s no good reason to be wearing a mask outside right now.

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I think I'll leave it to you to embrace paranoia, at least on our peaceful block, near Eastern Market. There simply isn't any good reason to worry about one's personal safety every time one ventures outside on the Hill. I say this as somebody who was carjacked at gunpoint near Lincoln Park 20 years ago. Life is too short.

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Anonymous wrote:The answer to this question is: move to Glover Park. You get the walkability (or close to it) of Capitol Hill, without the downsides of crime. You avoid long commutes from the boring suburbs. And you don't have to worry about school quality.

I'm not buying any of this. Last time I checked, Glover Park isn't short on crime because DC isn't. We have friends there whose house was broken into a few months ago. Don't have to worry about school qualify for Hardy or MacArthur? Ridiculous. I'm told that the seriously incompetent Hardy principal was pushed out a month before the end of this past school year, by....furious parents.

PP, if you don't want to live in the city, you don't have to live in the city. I gather you don't, and it sounds like you wouldn't want to. That's OK - this post is not for you.

But if you want to live in the city, but not worry as much about crime and schools as you would on Capitol Hill, and don't want to live in a suburb, then Glover Park is a nice option for you.

It does not have zero crime (nowhere does!) Its schools aren't perfect (nowhere does! just check out the complaints on this board about the MoCo schools!). But Glover Park is a pretty great place to live. It does not have all of the upsides of Capitol Hill - but it also does not have the two big downsides (crime and bad schools) either.

Bizarre response. We've lived on CH Hill for almost 30 years and don't worry about crime day to day.

PP, crime is lower in Glover Park than it is on the Hill. I love the Hill, but that's an objective fact.

I live in CH but know Glover Park well and yes, this is obvious without even looking at the numbers. Glover Park has lower crime because it's more secluded. A major reason CH struggles with crime is specifically that it's so accessible -- metro, multiple long range bus lines converging, extremely easy access along major arteries including Mass, Maryland, Penn, and Florida Avenues. At any given time, there are a lot of people in CH who don't live here.

There are extremely limited reasons for anyone who lives outside Glover Park to go there, and it's tucked away behind Wisconsin Ave with no other major roads through or adjacent except Reservoir Road, which has very little commercial activity and is largely just used as a way to get through upper Georgetown, not as a destination.

The trade off is that a lot of people on CH appreciate that connectivity, and living in Glover Park cuts you off from the rest of the city a lot more. Like one thing I like about CH is that we get to the museums, botanical garden, and arboretum really easily. I view those things as major assets for living in DC and I like how accessible they are where I live. I also like that I can be in Navy Yard, downtown, or Shaw/U Street in 15/20 minutes most of the time, which really opens of our entertainment and dining options. If the tradeoff is more crime, I don't love it, but I can accept it because I don't want to go move to the other side of the city where it's hard to go many places outside my immediate neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:The answer to this question is: move to Glover Park. You get the walkability (or close to it) of Capitol Hill, without the downsides of crime. You avoid long commutes from the boring suburbs. And you don't have to worry about school quality.

I'm not buying any of this. Last time I checked, Glover Park isn't short on crime because DC isn't. We have friends there whose house was broken into a few months ago. Don't have to worry about school qualify for Hardy or MacArthur? Ridiculous. I'm told that the seriously incompetent Hardy principal was pushed out a month before the end of this past school year, by....furious parents.

PP, if you don't want to live in the city, you don't have to live in the city. I gather you don't, and it sounds like you wouldn't want to. That's OK - this post is not for you.

But if you want to live in the city, but not worry as much about crime and schools as you would on Capitol Hill, and don't want to live in a suburb, then Glover Park is a nice option for you.

It does not have zero crime (nowhere does!) Its schools aren't perfect (nowhere does! just check out the complaints on this board about the MoCo schools!). But Glover Park is a pretty great place to live. It does not have all of the upsides of Capitol Hill - but it also does not have the two big downsides (crime and bad schools) either.

Bizarre response. We've lived on CH Hill for almost 30 years and don't worry about crime day to day.

PP, crime is lower in Glover Park than it is on the Hill. I love the Hill, but that's an objective fact.

I live in CH but know Glover Park well and yes, this is obvious without even looking at the numbers. Glover Park has lower crime because it's more secluded. A major reason CH struggles with crime is specifically that it's so accessible -- metro, multiple long range bus lines converging, extremely easy access along major arteries including Mass, Maryland, Penn, and Florida Avenues. At any given time, there are a lot of people in CH who don't live here.

There are extremely limited reasons for anyone who lives outside Glover Park to go there, and it's tucked away behind Wisconsin Ave with no other major roads through or adjacent except Reservoir Road, which has very little commercial activity and is largely just used as a way to get through upper Georgetown, not as a destination.

The trade off is that a lot of people on CH appreciate that connectivity, and living in Glover Park cuts you off from the rest of the city a lot more. Like one thing I like about CH is that we get to the museums, botanical garden, and arboretum really easily. I view those things as major assets for living in DC and I like how accessible they are where I live. I also like that I can be in Navy Yard, downtown, or Shaw/U Street in 15/20 minutes most of the time, which really opens of our entertainment and dining options. If the tradeoff is more crime, I don't love it, but I can accept it because I don't want to go move to the other side of the city where it's hard to go many places outside my immediate neighborhood.

PP, now you’ve missed the point of this thread. Schools! Capitol Hill schools - not so good. Glover Park schools - perfectly fine.