CoGat Scores

[Anonymous]

Just needed help understanding the following Cogat scores that I received from my DC's school:

quantitative battery: raw score 41, scaled score 133
non-verbal battery: raw score 37, scaled score 115
average scaled score 124

Would DC have a tough time qualifying for the AAP program? Also, out of curiosity, does a 124 scaled score translate into a 124 IQ WISC score?

[Anonymous]

Not a disqualification from AAP but borderline. My DS actually got in (without appeal) with almost identical COGAT scores but we were frankly surprised he got in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just needed help understanding the following Cogat scores that I received from my DC's school:

quantitative battery: raw score 41, scaled score 133
non-verbal battery: raw score 37, scaled score 115
average scaled score 124

Would DC have a tough time qualifying for the AAP program? Also, out of curiosity, does a 124 scaled score translate into a 124 IQ WISC score?

Most of the kids get in through appeal. Please go for appeal.They borderline cutoff scores. Add few documents which explains/demonstrated the kids exceptional motivation to succeed or execeptional ability to learn some thing like that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just needed help understanding the following Cogat scores that I received from my DC's school:

quantitative battery: raw score 41, scaled score 133
non-verbal battery: raw score 37, scaled score 115
average scaled score 124

Would DC have a tough time qualifying for the AAP program? Also, out of curiosity, does a 124 scaled score translate into a 124 IQ WISC score?

Most of the kids get in through appeal. Please go for appeal.They borderline cutoff scores. Add few documents which explains/demonstrated the kids exceptional motivation to succeed or execeptional ability to learn some thing like that

About half the kids get in through parental referral, which is not appeal. 1/2 of the kids that appeal get in, but that is a small number (and usually have a WISC which is high).

If I see that score, I would assume the kid was prepped on the quantitative battery (easier to prep for than non-verbal).

[Anonymous]

Why isn't there a verbal score?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just needed help understanding the following Cogat scores that I received from my DC's school:

quantitative battery: raw score 41, scaled score 133
non-verbal battery: raw score 37, scaled score 115
average scaled score 124

Would DC have a tough time qualifying for the AAP program? Also, out of curiosity, does a 124 scaled score translate into a 124 IQ WISC score?

Most of the kids get in through appeal. Please go for appeal.They borderline cutoff scores. Add few documents which explains/demonstrated the kids exceptional motivation to succeed or execeptional ability to learn some thing like that

About half the kids get in through parental referral, which is not appeal. 1/2 of the kids that appeal get in, but that is a small number (and usually have a WISC which is high).

If I see that score, I would assume the kid was prepped on the quantitative battery (easier to prep for than non-verbal).

Is parental referral done after the results are announced?
In Loudoun county,parental referral form (SIGS form) is filled and submitted before the selections. If parents don't like the result, they can appeal.

[Anonymous]

I recommend looking at the process on FCPS.edu
The process is:

The county gives 2 test, the NNAT and the CogAT. If either one is above a benchmark, then the child in pool, and will be evaluated for AAP. That involves creating a folder with work samples, etc, and putting together the GBRS with commentary. (look it up).

If the child does not meet the benchmark, then the parent can refer, and they will be evaluated for for AAP. That involves creating a folder with work samples, etc, and putting together the GBRS with commentary.

There is also supporting documents the parents can submit. Recommendations, a parental form, etc.

The school evaluates the Application, and forward to the central committee. Theoretically, the school can stop the process, but I have never heard of it happening.

The central committee reviews the applications holistically, and renders a decision.

If rejected, the parent can appeal, providing there is additional information. Typically, that would be a WISC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just needed help understanding the following Cogat scores that I received from my DC's school:

quantitative battery: raw score 41, scaled score 133
non-verbal battery: raw score 37, scaled score 115
average scaled score 124

Would DC have a tough time qualifying for the AAP program? Also, out of curiosity, does a 124 scaled score translate into a 124 IQ WISC score?

Most of the kids get in through appeal. Please go for appeal.They borderline cutoff scores. Add few documents which explains/demonstrated the kids exceptional motivation to succeed or execeptional ability to learn some thing like that

About half the kids get in through parental referral, which is not appeal. 1/2 of the kids that appeal get in, but that is a small number (and usually have a WISC which is high).

If I see that score, I would assume the kid was prepped on the quantitative battery (easier to prep for than non-verbal).

Np. Why would you assume that. My DC is exponentially better in math than language arts, and that was reflected in scores. DC's teachers always comment on math being DC's strength. Not all kids are prepped if you see uneven scores. Luckily, or hopefully, you aren't the one making eligibility determinations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just needed help understanding the following Cogat scores that I received from my DC's school:

quantitative battery: raw score 41, scaled score 133
non-verbal battery: raw score 37, scaled score 115
average scaled score 124

Would DC have a tough time qualifying for the AAP program? Also, out of curiosity, does a 124 scaled score translate into a 124 IQ WISC score?

Most of the kids get in through appeal. Please go for appeal.They borderline cutoff scores. Add few documents which explains/demonstrated the kids exceptional motivation to succeed or execeptional ability to learn some thing like that

About half the kids get in through parental referral, which is not appeal. 1/2 of the kids that appeal get in, but that is a small number (and usually have a WISC which is high).

If I see that score, I would assume the kid was prepped on the quantitative battery (easier to prep for than non-verbal).

Np. Why would you assume that. My DC is exponentially better in math than language arts, and that was reflected in scores. DC's teachers always comment on math being DC's strength. Not all kids are prepped if you see uneven scores. Luckily, or hopefully, you aren't the one making eligibility determinations.

Because the math is easier to prepare for. It is an assumption. I would look at other information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I recommend looking at the process on FCPS.edu
The process is:

The county gives 2 test, the NNAT and the CogAT. If either one is above a benchmark, then the child in pool, and will be evaluated for AAP. That involves creating a folder with work samples, etc, and putting together the GBRS with commentary. (look it up).

If the child does not meet the benchmark, then the parent can refer, and they will be evaluated for for AAP. That involves creating a folder with work samples, etc, and putting together the GBRS with commentary.

There is also supporting documents the parents can submit. Recommendations, a parental form, etc.

The school evaluates the Application, and forward to the central committee. Theoretically, the school can stop the process, but I have never heard of it happening.

The central committee reviews the applications holistically, and renders a decision.
My understanding is that the Cogat scores don't come out until last minute so parents might not know in advance if their kid is in the pool.

If rejected, the parent can appeal, providing there is additional information. Typically, that would be a WISC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I recommend looking at the process on FCPS.edu
The process is:

The county gives 2 test, the NNAT and the CogAT. If either one is above a benchmark, then the child in pool, and will be evaluated for AAP. That involves creating a folder with work samples, etc, and putting together the GBRS with commentary. (look it up).

If the child does not meet the benchmark, then the parent can refer, and they will be evaluated for for AAP. That involves creating a folder with work samples, etc, and putting together the GBRS with commentary.

There is also supporting documents the parents can submit. Recommendations, a parental form, etc.

The school evaluates the Application, and forward to the central committee. Theoretically, the school can stop the process, but I have never heard of it happening.

The central committee reviews the applications holistically, and renders a decision.


But most parents do not know if their child is in the pool in advance because Cogat scores come out so late
My understanding is that the Cogat scores don't come out until last minute so parents might not know in advance if their kid is in the pool.

If rejected, the parent can appeal, providing there is additional information. Typically, that would be a WISC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

If I see that score, I would assume the kid was prepped on the quantitative battery (easier to prep for than non-verbal).

Np. Why would you assume that. My DC is exponentially better in math than language arts, and that was reflected in scores. DC's teachers always comment on math being DC's strength. Not all kids are prepped if you see uneven scores. Luckily, or hopefully, you aren't the one making eligibility determinations.

Because the math is easier to prepare for. It is an assumption. I would look at other information.

Which is why a verbal score would shed more light on the overall packet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just needed help understanding the following Cogat scores that I received from my DC's school:

quantitative battery: raw score 41, scaled score 133
non-verbal battery: raw score 37, scaled score 115
average scaled score 124

Would DC have a tough time qualifying for the AAP program? Also, out of curiosity, does a 124 scaled score translate into a 124 IQ WISC score?

Most of the kids get in through appeal. Please go for appeal.They borderline cutoff scores. Add few documents which explains/demonstrated the kids exceptional motivation to succeed or execeptional ability to learn some thing like that

About half the kids get in through parental referral, which is not appeal. 1/2 of the kids that appeal get in, but that is a small number (and usually have a WISC which is high).

If I see that score, I would assume the kid was prepped on the quantitative battery (easier to prep for than non-verbal).

Np. Why would you assume that. My DC is exponentially better in math than language arts, and that was reflected in scores. DC's teachers always comment on math being DC's strength. Not all kids are prepped if you see uneven scores. Luckily, or hopefully, you aren't the one making eligibility determinations.

Because the math is easier to prepare for. It is an assumption. I would look at other information.

You know what happens when you assume.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just needed help understanding the following Cogat scores that I received from my DC's school:

quantitative battery: raw score 41, scaled score 133
non-verbal battery: raw score 37, scaled score 115
average scaled score 124

Would DC have a tough time qualifying for the AAP program? Also, out of curiosity, does a 124 scaled score translate into a 124 IQ WISC score?

Most of the kids get in through appeal. Please go for appeal.They borderline cutoff scores. Add few documents which explains/demonstrated the kids exceptional motivation to succeed or execeptional ability to learn some thing like that

About half the kids get in through parental referral, which is not appeal. 1/2 of the kids that appeal get in, but that is a small number (and usually have a WISC which is high).

If I see that score, I would assume the kid was prepped on the quantitative battery (easier to prep for than non-verbal).

Np. Why would you assume that. My DC is exponentially better in math than language arts, and that was reflected in scores. DC's teachers always comment on math being DC's strength. Not all kids are prepped if you see uneven scores. Luckily, or hopefully, you aren't the one making eligibility determinations.

Because the math is easier to prepare for. It is an assumption. I would look at other information.

You know what happens when you assume.

I am not saying your kid prepped. In general, A strong CogAT with weak everything else is not enough. Why? place the blame on test preparations. The school is trying to identify the kids that can benefit from AAP, not the kids that prep the best.

(if the GBRS is decent, it will not be an issue; but with weak supporting material, I would plan for a WISC).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I recommend looking at the process on FCPS.edu
The process is:

The county gives 2 test, the NNAT and the CogAT. If either one is above a benchmark, then the child in pool, and will be evaluated for AAP. That involves creating a folder with work samples, etc, and putting together the GBRS with commentary. (look it up).

If the child does not meet the benchmark, then the parent can refer, and they will be evaluated for for AAP. That involves creating a folder with work samples, etc, and putting together the GBRS with commentary.

There is also supporting documents the parents can submit. Recommendations, a parental form, etc.

The school evaluates the Application, and forward to the central committee. Theoretically, the school can stop the process, but I have never heard of it happening.

The central committee reviews the applications holistically, and renders a decision.

If rejected, the parent can appeal, providing there is additional information. Typically, that would be a WISC

Unfortunately the CoGat scores come out right before the submission for AAP is due so parents do not know well ahead of time if the child meets benchmark.