Expunge MS language credit or keep it

[Anonymous]

DC is at a B+ in Spanish I, and not planning to continue spanish in TJ. Instead, take another language, likely German or Russian. Everything else is at A. We are thinking of expunging the credit, or is it helpful to keep it, to show as an extra course took in MS. DC is adamant that it will lower GPA overall and dont want to keep it. I am trying to figure out if there is anything we are missing.

[Anonymous]

It is a HS credit and will count on his HS transcript. If he plans to start over with a new language in HS, then there is no reason to keep it on the record. But you can also wait to see the final grade. Many times a B+ can become an A-.

[Anonymous]

If it's a B+, it will calculate into GPA as a 3.3, since it is an unweighted class. Last year, TJ graduating senior weighted GPA range was about 3.4 to 4.5. Median senior GPA was in the range of 4.2. So, your kid is right that a 3.3 will almost certainly bring his weighted GPA down.

It's hard to believe that a college cares one way or another about the B+ in 8th grade language staying on the report card. The year of language is a plus. The B+ may hurt. But, the class wasn't taken at TJ and was taken before high school.

Colleges move in mysterious ways, so no one "knows" the right answer. I would say the presence of an 8th grade B+ (at a school besides TJ, and presumably easier than TJ) would have little to no impact on college admissions, positive or negative. Meh grade, 1st level language, remote in time. But, it will pull down the GPA. So, I'd expunge.

I can think of one potential downside. You need to maintain a cumulative 3.0 UW GPA to stay at TJ. (Although rumor is they place kids below a 3.0 on academic restrictions in terms of courseload, like no APs, and mandate tutoring and encourage kids to go back to the base HS, but rarely actually kick a kid with a less than 3.0 out. Fortunately we have not had to deal with this IRL). If your kid has a rough 1st year, the 3.3 UW could help them stay above 3.0. But, if you kid has an UW 3.0 at the end of freshman year, the should probably consider returning to their base school anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If it's a B+, it will calculate into GPA as a 3.3, since it is an unweighted class. Last year, TJ graduating senior weighted GPA range was about 3.4 to 4.5. Median senior GPA was in the range of 4.2. So, your kid is right that a 3.3 will almost certainly bring his weighted GPA down.

It's hard to believe that a college cares one way or another about the B+ in 8th grade language staying on the report card. The year of language is a plus. The B+ may hurt. But, the class wasn't taken at TJ and was taken before high school.

Colleges move in mysterious ways, so no one "knows" the right answer. I would say the presence of an 8th grade B+ (at a school besides TJ, and presumably easier than TJ) would have little to no impact on college admissions, positive or negative. Meh grade, 1st level language, remote in time. But, it will pull down the GPA. So, I'd expunge.

I can think of one potential downside. You need to maintain a cumulative 3.0 UW GPA to stay at TJ. (Although rumor is they place kids below a 3.0 on academic restrictions in terms of courseload, like no APs, and mandate tutoring and encourage kids to go back to the base HS, but rarely actually kick a kid with a less than 3.0 out. Fortunately we have not had to deal with this IRL). If your kid has a rough 1st year, the 3.3 UW could help them stay above 3.0. But, if you kid has an UW 3.0 at the end of freshman year, the should probably consider returning to their base school anyway.

So no point in keeping then, thanks. I do not think there will be a problem in core subjects, as DC is able to keep up comfortable, except when being sloppy like in case of Spanish. This happened because DC didn't take it seriously and missed some HW or did not take some quizzes seriously with the assumption that it is only a language and one that wasn't particularly interesting for DC. Says won't happen in TJ. I guess we'll wait and figure out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's a B+, it will calculate into GPA as a 3.3, since it is an unweighted class. Last year, TJ graduating senior weighted GPA range was about 3.4 to 4.5. Median senior GPA was in the range of 4.2. So, your kid is right that a 3.3 will almost certainly bring his weighted GPA down.

It's hard to believe that a college cares one way or another about the B+ in 8th grade language staying on the report card. The year of language is a plus. The B+ may hurt. But, the class wasn't taken at TJ and was taken before high school.

Colleges move in mysterious ways, so no one "knows" the right answer. I would say the presence of an 8th grade B+ (at a school besides TJ, and presumably easier than TJ) would have little to no impact on college admissions, positive or negative. Meh grade, 1st level language, remote in time. But, it will pull down the GPA. So, I'd expunge.

I can think of one potential downside. You need to maintain a cumulative 3.0 UW GPA to stay at TJ. (Although rumor is they place kids below a 3.0 on academic restrictions in terms of courseload, like no APs, and mandate tutoring and encourage kids to go back to the base HS, but rarely actually kick a kid with a less than 3.0 out. Fortunately we have not had to deal with this IRL). If your kid has a rough 1st year, the 3.3 UW could help them stay above 3.0. But, if you kid has an UW 3.0 at the end of freshman year, the should probably consider returning to their base school anyway.

So no point in keeping then, thanks. I do not think there will be a problem in core subjects, as DC is able to keep up comfortable, except when being sloppy like in case of Spanish. This happened because DC didn't take it seriously and missed some HW or did not take some quizzes seriously with the assumption that it is only a language and one that wasn't particularly interesting for DC. Says won't happen in TJ. I guess we'll wait and figure out.

Ummmm... huh. Next year should be interesting for your DC (and by extension you). And eye opening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's a B+, it will calculate into GPA as a 3.3, since it is an unweighted class. Last year, TJ graduating senior weighted GPA range was about 3.4 to 4.5. Median senior GPA was in the range of 4.2. So, your kid is right that a 3.3 will almost certainly bring his weighted GPA down.

It's hard to believe that a college cares one way or another about the B+ in 8th grade language staying on the report card. The year of language is a plus. The B+ may hurt. But, the class wasn't taken at TJ and was taken before high school.

Colleges move in mysterious ways, so no one "knows" the right answer. I would say the presence of an 8th grade B+ (at a school besides TJ, and presumably easier than TJ) would have little to no impact on college admissions, positive or negative. Meh grade, 1st level language, remote in time. But, it will pull down the GPA. So, I'd expunge.

I can think of one potential downside. You need to maintain a cumulative 3.0 UW GPA to stay at TJ. (Although rumor is they place kids below a 3.0 on academic restrictions in terms of courseload, like no APs, and mandate tutoring and encourage kids to go back to the base HS, but rarely actually kick a kid with a less than 3.0 out. Fortunately we have not had to deal with this IRL). If your kid has a rough 1st year, the 3.3 UW could help them stay above 3.0. But, if you kid has an UW 3.0 at the end of freshman year, the should probably consider returning to their base school anyway.

So no point in keeping then, thanks. I do not think there will be a problem in core subjects, as DC is able to keep up comfortable, except when being sloppy like in case of Spanish. This happened because DC didn't take it seriously and missed some HW or did not take some quizzes seriously with the assumption that it is only a language and one that wasn't particularly interesting for DC. Says won't happen in TJ. I guess we'll wait and figure out.

Ummmm... huh. Next year should be interesting for your DC (and by extension you). And eye opening.

Okay, so be it. We have been through enough eye opening events, and have it very much open, so won't sweat it. It's not end of the world for us, TJ or no TJ, those who will become successful will find a way.

[Anonymous]

Do you have to make that decision now or can you make it anytime before graduation? If it can wait, I would.

[Anonymous]

If it's a B+, it will calculate into GPA as a 3.3, since it is an unweighted class. Last year, TJ graduating senior weighted GPA range was about 3.4 to 4.5. Median senior GPA was in the range of 4.2. So, your kid is right that a 3.3 will almost certainly bring his weighted GPA down.

It's hard to believe that a college cares one way or another about the B+ in 8th grade language staying on the report card. The year of language is a plus. The B+ may hurt. But, the class wasn't taken at TJ and was taken before high school.

Expunge the grade because the kid doesn't plan to continue in the language and there's no reason to report a random year of Spanish. Don't expunge it because it's a B+ or agree with your kid that it's a low grade that will adversely impact his future. By the end of HS, the B+ would be calculated in with 30 other grades (most of them weighted) and its impact would be minimal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

If it's a B+, it will calculate into GPA as a 3.3, since it is an unweighted class. Last year, TJ graduating senior weighted GPA range was about 3.4 to 4.5. Median senior GPA was in the range of 4.2. So, your kid is right that a 3.3 will almost certainly bring his weighted GPA down.

It's hard to believe that a college cares one way or another about the B+ in 8th grade language staying on the report card. The year of language is a plus. The B+ may hurt. But, the class wasn't taken at TJ and was taken before high school.

Expunge the grade because the kid doesn't plan to continue in the language and there's no reason to report a random year of Spanish. Don't expunge it because it's a B+ or agree with your kid that it's a low grade that will adversely impact his future. By the end of HS, the B+ would be calculated in with 30 other grades (most of them weighted) and its impact would be minimal.

But the fact that he did one more credit would count for something, wouldn't it?

[Anonymous]

I don't think you can just expunge a credit. You can't in Arlington, anyway. If you re-take a course, the new grade counts (although the old grade still shows) but you can't pretend you didn't take a class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think you can just expunge a credit. You can't in Arlington, anyway. If you re-take a course, the new grade counts (although the old grade still shows) but you can't pretend you didn't take a class.

You can in FCPS if you took the class in middle school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If it's a B+, it will calculate into GPA as a 3.3, since it is an unweighted class. Last year, TJ graduating senior weighted GPA range was about 3.4 to 4.5. Median senior GPA was in the range of 4.2. So, your kid is right that a 3.3 will almost certainly bring his weighted GPA down.

It's hard to believe that a college cares one way or another about the B+ in 8th grade language staying on the report card. The year of language is a plus. The B+ may hurt. But, the class wasn't taken at TJ and was taken before high school.

Expunge the grade because the kid doesn't plan to continue in the language and there's no reason to report a random year of Spanish. Don't expunge it because it's a B+ or agree with your kid that it's a low grade that will adversely impact his future. By the end of HS, the B+ would be calculated in with 30 other grades (most of them weighted) and its impact would be minimal.

But the fact that he did one more credit would count for something, wouldn't it?

I don't think so. By the time they graduate, lots of TJ kids have 2-3 MS math credits, 1-2 MS foreign language credits, 1 EPF credit, 2-3 summer school credits, and 1-2 9th period online credits in addition to the standard 28 from 4 years, 7 classes each year. I don't think it matters whether your kid has 8 extra credits or 9. Especially when the extra credit is a B+ and not an A.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is a HS credit and will count on his HS transcript. If he plans to start over with a new language in HS, then there is no reason to keep it on the record. But you can also wait to see the final grade. Many times a B+ can become an A-.

Just checking here. If the student changes languages, then they don't have to retake Part 1 or take Part 2, as indicated on the form? https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/forms/is104.pdf

[Anonymous]

Exactly what message are you sending your child by expunging a B+? You are telling them that anything less then an A is unacceptable and that they some how or another "failed" because they did not get an A. A B+ is a very good grade. It is well above average. There is no reason to expunge a B+.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's a B+, it will calculate into GPA as a 3.3, since it is an unweighted class. Last year, TJ graduating senior weighted GPA range was about 3.4 to 4.5. Median senior GPA was in the range of 4.2. So, your kid is right that a 3.3 will almost certainly bring his weighted GPA down.

It's hard to believe that a college cares one way or another about the B+ in 8th grade language staying on the report card. The year of language is a plus. The B+ may hurt. But, the class wasn't taken at TJ and was taken before high school.

Colleges move in mysterious ways, so no one "knows" the right answer. I would say the presence of an 8th grade B+ (at a school besides TJ, and presumably easier than TJ) would have little to no impact on college admissions, positive or negative. Meh grade, 1st level language, remote in time. But, it will pull down the GPA. So, I'd expunge.

I can think of one potential downside. You need to maintain a cumulative 3.0 UW GPA to stay at TJ. (Although rumor is they place kids below a 3.0 on academic restrictions in terms of courseload, like no APs, and mandate tutoring and encourage kids to go back to the base HS, but rarely actually kick a kid with a less than 3.0 out. Fortunately we have not had to deal with this IRL). If your kid has a rough 1st year, the 3.3 UW could help them stay above 3.0. But, if you kid has an UW 3.0 at the end of freshman year, the should probably consider returning to their base school anyway.

So no point in keeping then, thanks. I do not think there will be a problem in core subjects, as DC is able to keep up comfortable, except when being sloppy like in case of Spanish. This happened because DC didn't take it seriously and missed some HW or did not take some quizzes seriously with the assumption that it is only a language and one that wasn't particularly interesting for DC. Says won't happen in TJ. I guess we'll wait and figure out.

So if I understand, your child can keep up with the work and do just fine. She has a B+ because she didn't complete her work. So what are you teaching her by letting her drop a grade that she earned? Crazy