Kate's New Picture

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Anonymous wrote:That looks like stress and deep thought. Other than his mother dying, he really hadn’t ever had tough things. This is a difficult time regardless of the cause. His dad is sick, something is going on with his wife, he’s about to become King- that is a responsibility something he’s never really had, guilt….

His parents messy and public affairs and divorce personally and being taunted about it in school, he and Harry have both commented on that

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Lately he always has this look on his face. Can't read what it is actually is. Anger? Guilt? Anxiety? It's striking.

I always get controlled anger vibes..creeps me out.

Same! I've gotten that vibe ever sense he was young.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the whole thing will just ramp up again either when Kate is next seen or on Easter if she is not seen then (even though I know the palace said "after Easter" -- it's clear a lot of people didn't read it that closely and think she's going to appear at church or in some other public event.

If she doesn't, I think the intensity might even ramp up.

I also think when she is finally seen, her appearance is going to be picked apart like never before.

I also think Kensington Palace has done lasting damage to its relationship with some publications. The public will move on and stop caring, but reporters and editors will not.

Yes except I’m not so sure that the public will forgive and forget.

They will.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this would be 5, maybe 10% as bad had they not released that photo. Especially if, as seems likely, they lied about when it was taken.

I agree with you, but they were already behaving as though they were panicked before the photo. I remember on one of the threads that got shut down, discussing how odd it was that they responded to that coma rumors (which had ZERO substantiation and was just making rounds on twitter, but was not taken seriously by any credible news organization) and then again when William pulled out of that memorial last minute. And also the "clarifications" they issued on both the announcement of Kate's and Charles's illnesses (that Kate did not have cancer, and that Charles had a cancer they didn't reveal BUT it wasn't prostate cancer). It was just out of character and seemed to reflect a lack of control or sense of overwhelm (which is not usually the vibe one get's from the BRF, even when really difficult things are happening, like the Queen's death).

The last time the BRF seemed this panicked was Diana's death, and in that case it was much more straightforward -- how should the family, and the Queen in particular, respond to the death of someone who married the heir and was mother to another heir but then divorced? It was unprecedented and they got criticism but also many people understood it was a confusing situation to navigate.

This is different because whatever it is they are struggling with, we don't know. But they are definitely struggling.

Well-said. I think that the multiple unforced errors and missteps feel destabilizing — because we don’t understand why this is being played out by the BRF as “ a confusing situation to navigate “. And then people like me, who only paid attention to the BRF for the occasional pageants and the pretty clothes start wondering at the apparent duplicity, and looking a little bit closer.

Exactly. There is a helluva a lot of smoke blowing around here, and it can't all be from a cigarette. Where's the fire?

What else do they need to explain besides what they have already given explanations for? I think there are serious problems with their stories and something in addition to the health problem is going on, but a lot of people buy the explanations they have already given in terms of her whereabouts and the photoshop. I don’t know why they would go back on those stories and I don’t know what else they absolutely need to explain.

At this point, directly or indirectly, they need to explain why their explanations have been so bad. They’re taking in enormous amounts of tax dollars, have supposedly competent paid staff, yet they’re blurting out information: “It’s not cancer” / “It’s not connected to the sudden death of a family member that’s not yet been deemed suicide”… that raises multiple questions while answering none. The three doctored or unclear pictures that may or may not definitely be of Kate only made things massively worse. Why all the obfuscation? deserves an explanation — if they want to avoid fallout.

Maybe it’s as simple as William doesn’t really want to be an actual monarch — and is acting out his fears. Charles, in contrast, is handling his communications extremely well. William’s keep getting worse and worse — for no clear reason.

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who thought the photo was lovely and would have been satisfied to leave it at that until after Easter?

This is the weirdest take, I'm sorry. It's one thing to think the botched photo is not a big deal and to reject all the conspiracy theories (sane, even) but to say it's just a nice photo is crazy. It was butchered!

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Lately he always has this look on his face. Can't read what it is actually is. Anger? Guilt? Anxiety? It's striking.

I always get controlled anger vibes..creeps me out.

Same! I've gotten that vibe ever sense he was young.

I think he looks like an exact cross between Diana and Prince Phillip. My impression of both of them is that they both had real tempers, so doesn’t surprise me that he does as well (although I don’t believe the accusations that he hits Kate, I would buy the yelling of throwing stuff rumors.). I think that’s actually part of the reason that some people are saying he has some BDE — it’s the simmering emotions that he is trying to keep a lid on.

Charles strikes me as just incredibly awkward more than an explosive temper type. More just irritable.

But of course I don’t know any of them! That’s just from body language and reading the press.

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I think she will just re-appear one day.

My guess is in May, which fits the "after Easter" timetable. They may go away for the school holiday following Easter. A photo may or not be release of that is my guess.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this would be 5, maybe 10% as bad had they not released that photo. Especially if, as seems likely, they lied about when it was taken.

I agree with you, but they were already behaving as though they were panicked before the photo. I remember on one of the threads that got shut down, discussing how odd it was that they responded to that coma rumors (which had ZERO substantiation and was just making rounds on twitter, but was not taken seriously by any credible news organization) and then again when William pulled out of that memorial last minute. And also the "clarifications" they issued on both the announcement of Kate's and Charles's illnesses (that Kate did not have cancer, and that Charles had a cancer they didn't reveal BUT it wasn't prostate cancer). It was just out of character and seemed to reflect a lack of control or sense of overwhelm (which is not usually the vibe one get's from the BRF, even when really difficult things are happening, like the Queen's death).

The last time the BRF seemed this panicked was Diana's death, and in that case it was much more straightforward -- how should the family, and the Queen in particular, respond to the death of someone who married the heir and was mother to another heir but then divorced? It was unprecedented and they got criticism but also many people understood it was a confusing situation to navigate.

This is different because whatever it is they are struggling with, we don't know. But they are definitely struggling.

Well-said. I think that the multiple unforced errors and missteps feel destabilizing — because we don’t understand why this is being played out by the BRF as “ a confusing situation to navigate “. And then people like me, who only paid attention to the BRF for the occasional pageants and the pretty clothes start wondering at the apparent duplicity, and looking a little bit closer.

Exactly. There is a helluva a lot of smoke blowing around here, and it can't all be from a cigarette. Where's the fire?

What else do they need to explain besides what they have already given explanations for? I think there are serious problems with their stories and something in addition to the health problem is going on, but a lot of people buy the explanations they have already given in terms of her whereabouts and the photoshop. I don’t know why they would go back on those stories and I don’t know what else they absolutely need to explain.

At this point, directly or indirectly, they need to explain why their explanations have been so bad. They’re taking in enormous amounts of tax dollars, have supposedly competent paid staff, yet they’re blurting out information: “It’s not cancer” / “It’s not connected to the sudden death of a family member that’s not yet been deemed suicide”… that raises multiple questions while answering none. The three doctored or unclear pictures that may or may not definitely be of Kate only made things massively worse. Why all the obfuscation? deserves an explanation — if they want to avoid fallout.

Maybe it’s as simple as William doesn’t really want to be an actual monarch — and is acting out his fears. Charles, in contrast, is handling his communications extremely well. William’s keep getting worse and worse — for no clear reason.

After things settle down the guy from NBC needs to be replaced. They have a relatively new team and they are not fit for purpose. Seems the most likely reason for the status quo.

[Anonymous]

New theory just dropped: William is seeking a divorce BECAUSE Charles is dying. He wants to divorce Middleton before she is queen.

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Anonymous wrote:New theory just dropped: William is seeking a divorce BECAUSE Charles is dying. He wants to divorce Middleton before she is queen.

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A few royal blogs have said this theory. Charles might not even be dying buy maybe his illness stirred something for one of them

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Anonymous wrote:New theory just dropped: William is seeking a divorce BECAUSE Charles is dying. He wants to divorce Middleton before she is queen.

Why?

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who thought the photo was lovely and would have been satisfied to leave it at that until after Easter?

Yes. Kate specifically knows how deeply the fashion blogs and pages go into what she wears and what the children wear. It would be easy for them to identify the clothing and immediately know the items were never sold in those shades.

That is what I think leans me against the idea that Kate edited it. I lean toward it being William or a male member of the PR team. They may not realize the extent to which her wardrobe is analyzed and the children’s wardrobes, and reported in multiple publications and venues.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this would be 5, maybe 10% as bad had they not released that photo. Especially if, as seems likely, they lied about when it was taken.

I agree with you, but they were already behaving as though they were panicked before the photo. I remember on one of the threads that got shut down, discussing how odd it was that they responded to that coma rumors (which had ZERO substantiation and was just making rounds on twitter, but was not taken seriously by any credible news organization) and then again when William pulled out of that memorial last minute. And also the "clarifications" they issued on both the announcement of Kate's and Charles's illnesses (that Kate did not have cancer, and that Charles had a cancer they didn't reveal BUT it wasn't prostate cancer). It was just out of character and seemed to reflect a lack of control or sense of overwhelm (which is not usually the vibe one get's from the BRF, even when really difficult things are happening, like the Queen's death).

The last time the BRF seemed this panicked was Diana's death, and in that case it was much more straightforward -- how should the family, and the Queen in particular, respond to the death of someone who married the heir and was mother to another heir but then divorced? It was unprecedented and they got criticism but also many people understood it was a confusing situation to navigate.

This is different because whatever it is they are struggling with, we don't know. But they are definitely struggling.

Well-said. I think that the multiple unforced errors and missteps feel destabilizing — because we don’t understand why this is being played out by the BRF as “ a confusing situation to navigate “. And then people like me, who only paid attention to the BRF for the occasional pageants and the pretty clothes start wondering at the apparent duplicity, and looking a little bit closer.

Exactly. There is a helluva a lot of smoke blowing around here, and it can't all be from a cigarette. Where's the fire?

What else do they need to explain besides what they have already given explanations for? I think there are serious problems with their stories and something in addition to the health problem is going on, but a lot of people buy the explanations they have already given in terms of her whereabouts and the photoshop. I don’t know why they would go back on those stories and I don’t know what else they absolutely need to explain.

At this point, directly or indirectly, they need to explain why their explanations have been so bad. They’re taking in enormous amounts of tax dollars, have supposedly competent paid staff, yet they’re blurting out information: “It’s not cancer” / “It’s not connected to the sudden death of a family member that’s not yet been deemed suicide”… that raises multiple questions while answering none. The three doctored or unclear pictures that may or may not definitely be of Kate only made things massively worse. Why all the obfuscation? deserves an explanation — if they want to avoid fallout.

Maybe it’s as simple as William doesn’t really want to be an actual monarch — and is acting out his fears. Charles, in contrast, is handling his communications extremely well. William’s keep getting worse and worse — for no clear reason.

I am probably in the minority but I’m worried about William (as well as Kate). William probably assumed he’d be king when he was 60ish, not 42. Now, within a few months, his father has cancer, his wife is either sick or playing hardball with him over his affairs, his affair (whether true or not) is being played out in the media, he has 3 young kids one of whom seems to be quite a handful, he is estranged from his brother…. And people are like “why does he look so stressed and angry recently?” Like man, this dude has a lot of stress right now! For someone who has seemingly been living a pretty cushy life of leisure for his adult life (after what seems like a pretty traumatizing childhood)

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Anonymous wrote:New theory just dropped: William is seeking a divorce BECAUSE Charles is dying. He wants to divorce Middleton before she is queen.

Why?

Makes no sense. Royals divorce. Charles himself is divorced.

[Anonymous]

Maybe it all is apart of the larger does Catherine love William conversation or did Carole force her into the position?

I believe the surgery and marriage issues are two separate items to address unrelated to each other outside of timing.

This part of The Crown aired in Dec 2023? Can anyone confirm, it was specifically directed at Kate accusing Carole of meddling and forcing the relationship with William https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/the-crown-carole-middleton-william-kate


Maybe the airing spurred an argument and she expressed it to be truth? She then went on to have the planned surgery but William then decided to call off the marriage or jointly while the world focused on her being away for a bit to heal.