Was Jesus the One Who Said....

[Anonymous]

....you don't have to keep kosher anymore? Or was it Paul? And what was the reasoning? Just curious....

[Anonymous]

Really? Can you not look it up in the bible index?

Jesus healed on the Sabbath, said it not what goes into a man that makes him unclean, but what comes out of a man

and more

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Really? Can you not look it up in the bible index?

Jesus healed on the Sabbath, said it not what goes into a man that makes him unclean, but what comes out of a man

and more

I've read conflicting things, and that Jesus kept kosher.

[Anonymous]

lol- im not even christian but that Catholic school education

- its in Acts- St. Peter had a vision and declared that it wasn't necessary to keep kosher, i'm sure his decision must also have been based on something Jesus Christ said as PP mentioned. As far as I can remember Jesus kept kosher and all the commandments but preached against getting caught up in the letter of the law without paying attention to its spirit- remember he said "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:lol- im not even christian but that Catholic school education

- its in Acts- St. Peter had a vision and declared that it wasn't necessary to keep kosher, i'm sure his decision must also have been based on something Jesus Christ said as PP mentioned. As far as I can remember Jesus kept kosher and all the commandments but preached against getting caught up in the letter of the law without paying attention to its spirit- remember he said "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

OP here. Thank you. That's why I said I've read conflicting things. On one hand, Jesus said (for the sake of this discussion, let's assume we know for sure what his precise words were) that a) he came here NOT to destroy the law, and b) it's not what goes into a man that makes him clean but what comes out. They conflict, at least in terms of following kosher laws.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:....you don't have to keep kosher anymore? Or was it Paul? And what was the reasoning? Just curious....

It was too hard to convert people if you had to tell them to circumsize their boys, not eat port or shellfish, kill an animal properly, and keep meat and dairy separate. Therefore, that was simply left out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:....you don't have to keep kosher anymore? Or was it Paul? And what was the reasoning? Just curious....

It was too hard to convert people if you had to tell them to circumsize their boys, not eat port or shellfish, kill an animal properly, and keep meat and dairy separate. Therefore, that was simply left out.

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Christianity was originally an offshoot of Judaism with all the believers being jewish and converts being forced to take on jewish customs and law
Paul put an end to it with the belief that faith mattered, not outward signs of religion.
Jesus threw out the trades men outside the temple, told followers to watch out for the dogmatic teachings of the Pharisees and scribes.

Perhaps that is why he was hated so much. He preached about God but left out the rules/laws. People at the time believed that a life filled with rules was what God is after, and that was your road to God

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:....you don't have to keep kosher anymore? Or was it Paul? And what was the reasoning? Just curious....

It was too hard to convert people if you had to tell them to circumsize their boys, not eat port or shellfish, kill an animal properly, and keep meat and dairy separate. Therefore, that was simply left out.

?
Christianity was originally an offshoot of Judaism with all the believers being jewish and converts being forced to take on jewish customs and law
Paul put an end to it with the belief that faith mattered, not outward signs of religion.
Jesus threw out the trades men outside the temple, told followers to watch out for the dogmatic teachings of the Pharisees and scribes.

Perhaps that is why he was hated so much. He preached about God but left out the rules/laws. People at the time believed that a life filled with rules was what God is after, and that was your road to God

Jewish people still believe that of course, although they would call them "laws" and not "rules." And the laws are based on compassion, for the most part - such as separating milk/meat and killing animals humanely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:....you don't have to keep kosher anymore? Or was it Paul? And what was the reasoning? Just curious....

It was too hard to convert people if you had to tell them to circumsize their boys, not eat port or shellfish, kill an animal properly, and keep meat and dairy separate. Therefore, that was simply left out.

?
Christianity was originally an offshoot of Judaism with all the believers being jewish and converts being forced to take on jewish customs and law
Paul put an end to it with the belief that faith mattered, not outward signs of religion.
Jesus threw out the trades men outside the temple, told followers to watch out for the dogmatic teachings of the Pharisees and scribes.

Perhaps that is why he was hated so much. He preached about God but left out the rules/laws. People at the time believed that a life filled with rules was what God is after, and that was your road to God

Jewish people still believe that of course, although they would call them "laws" and not "rules." And the laws are based on compassion, for the most part - such as separating milk/meat and killing animals humanely.

Then the Christians codified their religion and set up a bunch of new rules, called the catechism of the Catholic church.